Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

gimmesometruth27

i am outraged because he is on the SCIENCE and SPACE and TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE.

science entails things called evidence and FACTS, not things in some antiquated text about god making man in one day.

i wish i could say differently, but for some reason i am not surprised that you are defending this guy. all of these threads seem to end up with you on your own against everyone else defending something that most logical people would find indefensible...

if you respect his convictions, did you respect your science teachers' assertions about the law of gravity and fossils?

pandora wrote:

I find it ironic and a bit funny that people would be outraged here
at this representatives remarks.
I'm thinking those angered don't believe in a hell anyways ...
nor do the men of science he is directing his words to ... yes?
I also don't think they should be surprised with the conviction this man speaks.
By the way that is another thing I respect, his conviction.

Moonpig

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i am outraged because he is on the SCIENCE and SPACE and TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE.

science entails things called evidence and FACTS, not things in some antiquated text about god making man in one day.

i wish i could say differently, but for some reason i am not surprised that you are defending this guy. all of these threads seem to end up with you on your own against everyone else defending something that most logical people would find indefensible...

if you respect his convictions, did you respect your science teachers' assertions about the law of gravity and fossils?

pandora wrote:

I find it ironic and a bit funny that people would be outraged here
at this representatives remarks.
I'm thinking those angered don't believe in a hell anyways ...
nor do the men of science he is directing his words to ... yes?
I also don't think they should be surprised with the conviction this man speaks.
By the way that is another thing I respect, his conviction.

Tell you what, seeing as some of you have taken exception to me, a non american, having an opinion that is not in sync with your own, I will here on in tag onto a post that I agree with. Opinion by association I suppose you could call it - would that be allowed, or should I just get my coat altogether??

So - I'm Moonpig, and I endorse the above post from gimme

Jason P

This congressman has to make one of the following admissions:

1) Lying

OR

2) Stupid

I'm going to go with "lying" w/ a dusting of stupid. Also, there is no way this guy should be on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

:fp:

pandora

pandora wrote:

I find it ironic and a bit funny that people would be outraged here
at this representatives remarks.
I'm thinking those angered don't believe in a hell anyways ...
nor do the men of science he is directing his words to ... yes?
I also don't think they should be surprised with the conviction this man speaks.
By the way that is another thing I respect, his conviction.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i am outraged because he is on the SCIENCE and SPACE and TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE.

science entails things called evidence and FACTS, not things in some antiquated text about god making man in one day.

i wish i could say differently, but for some reason i am not surprised that you are defending this guy. all of these threads seem to end up with you on your own against everyone else defending something that most logical people would find indefensible...

if you respect his convictions, did you respect your science teachers' assertions about the law of gravity and fossils?

I had an awesome biology teacher in 9th grade... I remember him still
and very much admire the man

I think that is your opinion in the red text... I defend your write to voice it

and this the bases to my defending everyone ...
the basic right to free speech something unimportant perhaps to you
but you do certainly seem to make use of it a lot

pandora

Jason P wrote:

This congressman has to make one of the following admissions:

1) Lying

OR

2) Stupid

I'm going to go with "lying" w/ a dusting of stupid. Also, there is no way this guy should be on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

:fp:

How did he acquire this post? That would be interesting to know...

pandora

Moonpig wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i am outraged because he is on the SCIENCE and SPACE and TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE.

science entails things called evidence and FACTS, not things in some antiquated text about god making man in one day.

i wish i could say differently, but for some reason i am not surprised that you are defending this guy. all of these threads seem to end up with you on your own against everyone else defending something that most logical people would find indefensible...

if you respect his convictions, did you respect your science teachers' assertions about the law of gravity and fossils?

pandora wrote:

I find it ironic and a bit funny that people would be outraged here
at this representatives remarks.
I'm thinking those angered don't believe in a hell anyways ...
nor do the men of science he is directing his words to ... yes?
I also don't think they should be surprised with the conviction this man speaks.
By the way that is another thing I respect, his conviction.

Tell you what, seeing as some of you have taken exception to me, a non american, having an opinion that is not in sync with your own, I will here on in tag onto a post that I agree with. Opinion by association I suppose you could call it - would that be allowed, or should I just get my coat altogether??

So - I'm Moonpig, and I endorse the above post from gimme

Oh boy speaking of martyr ...
I don't think anyone has taken exception to your opinion, we agree to disagree or at least
I have attempted that on numerous occasions.

There are many countries represented and brought together in the love of Pearl Jam.
What some might take exception to is the lack of love at times.

Jason P

pandora wrote:

Jason P wrote:

This congressman has to make one of the following admissions:

1) Lying

OR

2) Stupid

I'm going to go with "lying" w/ a dusting of stupid. Also, there is no way this guy should be on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

:fp:

How did he acquire this post? That would be interesting to know...

From Wikianswers:

The two main political parties in the House and Senate assign Members to committees, using a three-stage process.

Stage One - Member requests: At the beginning of a new Congress, Members request assignments to the committees they prefer. The incumbent Members (those who are not new) usually keep the committee assignments they have because they have expertise and seniority.

Stage Two - Party approval: Each political party uses a committee in charge of committee assignments to recommend assignments. This committee on committees matches the Member requests with available committee seats, prepares and approves an assignment slate for each committee, and submits all slates to the full party for approval. The full party meets to approve the recommendations.

Stage Three - Full Chamber approval: Each committee (now made up of members from each political party) submits its slate to the full Chamber for approval. When a committee member resigns or is assigned to another committee, all of Congress is notified.

Moonpig

pandora wrote:

Oh boy speaking of martyr ...
I don't think anyone has taken exception to your opinion, we agree to disagree or at least
I have attempted that on numerous occasions.

There are many countries represented and brought together in the love of Pearl Jam.
What some might take exception to is the lack of love at times.

:fp: i was being facetious

pandora

Jason P wrote:

pandora wrote:

Jason P wrote:

This congressman has to make one of the following admissions:

1) Lying

OR

2) Stupid

I'm going to go with "lying" w/ a dusting of stupid. Also, there is no way this guy should be on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

:fp:

How did he acquire this post? That would be interesting to know...

From Wikianswers:

The two main political parties in the House and Senate assign Members to committees, using a three-stage process.

Stage One - Member requests: At the beginning of a new Congress, Members request assignments to the committees they prefer. The incumbent Members (those who are not new) usually keep the committee assignments they have because they have expertise and seniority.

Stage Two - Party approval: Each political party uses a committee in charge of committee assignments to recommend assignments. This committee on committees matches the Member requests with available committee seats, prepares and approves an assignment slate for each committee, and submits all slates to the full party for approval. The full party meets to approve the recommendations.

Stage Three - Full Chamber approval: Each committee (now made up of members from each political party) submits its slate to the full Chamber for approval. When a committee member resigns or is assigned to another committee, all of Congress is notified.

Sounds like it was in the bag for him...
he's a Doctor who has based his practice on house calls...
that's kind of sweet.

His other posts...

Committee assignments
Committee on Homeland Security
Subcommittee on Border and Maritime Security
Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence (Vice Chair)
Committee on Science and Technology
Subcommittee on Energy and Environment
Subcommittee on Investigations and Oversight (Chairman)
Republican Study Committee

not too fond of Obama, pretty vocal, go figure

pandora

Moonpig wrote:

pandora wrote:

Oh boy speaking of martyr ...
I don't think anyone has taken exception to your opinion, we agree to disagree or at least
I have attempted that on numerous occasions.

There are many countries represented and brought together in the love of Pearl Jam.
What some might take exception to is the lack of love at times.

:fp: i was being facetious

or sarcastic

Go Beavers

pandora wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

You're defending him? Are you in his district or something?

You think to defend a person's right to speak his opinion I would have to be in his district?
Alrighty then :fp:
Are you in America? ... we have freedom of speech...

Other countries have freedom of speech, too, and it's not a freedom of speech issue. The guy's in Congress and makes policy that effects people. If he was working at Office Max I wouldn't give a hoot if he wants to act like it's 1780, but he's not at Office Max. Your "oh well, to each their own" attitude enables a dysfunctional congress. The guy is free to talk all he wants, and everyone else is free to ask how the hell did he get there.

chadwick

http://youtu.be/ZBy3MbP4WDo
unreal

look at all the murdered fucking deer all in the name of trophy hunting. nice job stupid shits. i cannot believe all the people in this dude's audience clapping and cheering him on. what a dipshit. he believes the earth is only 9 thousand years old and was created in 6 days as we know them. wtf?

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/ZBy3MbP4WDo
unreal

look at all the murdered fucking deer all in the name of trophy hunting. nice job stupid shits. i cannot believe all the people in this dude's audience clapping and cheering him on. what a dipshit. he believes the earth is only 9 thousand years old and was created in 6 days as we know them. wtf?

who cares what this guy believes ?..it's what you believe that matters to you right ? life goes on.

Godfather.

chadwick

shut this fucker down! please and in a hurry. these kinds of folks have zero business running anything (of power) other than their mouths. this guy and his followers and the like are extremely crazy and very much insane. we cannot have them in charge of our daily lives. can't this guy just go away? who the fuck in their right mind would support such insanity?

i'd rather smear my own shit all over myself and eat my own snot for 47 years than support such a ridiculous human being.

http://youtu.be/OPYxzzMem18
is this his 4th wife?

chadwick

Godfather. wrote:

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/ZBy3MbP4WDo
unreal

look at all the murdered fucking deer all in the name of trophy hunting. nice job stupid shits. i cannot believe all the people in this dude's audience clapping and cheering him on. what a dipshit. he believes the earth is only 9 thousand years old and was created in 6 days as we know them. wtf?

who cares what this guy believes ?..it's what you believe that matters to you right ? life goes on.

Godfather.

but, godfather, he's trying to be a big shot in charge of very serious matters. his mental health does not fit the challenge. this guy is not mentally sound to be a congressman

EdsonNascimento

We have a REPRESENTATIVE Democracy. It seems like this represents the make up of our country for better or worse.

And, not to sound repetitive, this is a Representative you are speaking of. So, the area from which he was elected from is the smallest possible unit in our Federal Government. On top of which, he is up for election every 2 years (not 4 - or even 6 like Senators). So, the fact that 1/432nds (or 0.2%) of our country seems about right. Melting pot indeed.

I don't agree with his views. But, I'm glad whatever area he's from gets to vote for who they feel best represents them, and they get 1/432nds of a voice in the House of Representatives which makes up 50% of our Congress (thus, in the most simplistic terms makes his voice 1/864th of the overall Congress). Congress makes up 1/3rd of our Federal branches (thus in the most simplistic mathematical terms makes his voice 1/2,592nds of the overall Federal Government - it almost seems like it's disporportional against folks that believe this stuff).

Sure, he sits on committee that you think is nonsensical. So, when you create committees for whatever you're doing, you want folks that all think the same way? It seems having folks from different background would be the best way to foster innovation. And, anything the committee produces needs to be voted on by the House (and then Senate, and then signed by the President and is subject to the Supreme Court if someone chooses to challenge it - if it's a law - I know there's other things they do - but you hopefully get the point - he's not out there on his own deciding what we do). I'm supposing you think someone with his views doesn't have a cell phone or use any sort of technology? And if he doesn't, so what? Isn't there value in that? I sometimes wish I wasn't tethered to my cell phone.....

That Constitution is one hell of a document.

gimmesometruth27

Go Beavers wrote:

Other countries have freedom of speech, too, and it's not a freedom of speech issue. The guy's in Congress and makes policy that effects people. If he was working at Office Max I wouldn't give a hoot if he wants to act like it's 1780, but he's not at Office Max. Your "oh well, to each their own" attitude enables a dysfunctional congress. The guy is free to talk all he wants, and everyone else is free to ask how the hell did he get there.

exactly. i do not want some nutbag fundamentalist religious zealot making policy regarding science. let this guy go and run a paper route or something.

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

chadwick wrote:

http://youtu.be/ZBy3MbP4WDo
unreal

look at all the murdered fucking deer all in the name of trophy hunting. nice job stupid shits. i cannot believe all the people in this dude's audience clapping and cheering him on. what a dipshit. he believes the earth is only 9 thousand years old and was created in 6 days as we know them. wtf?

who cares what this guy believes ?..it's what you believe that matters to you right ? life goes on.

Godfather.

but, godfather, he's trying to be a big shot in charge of very serious matters. his mental health does not fit the challenge. this guy is not mentally sound to be a congressman

I haven't been able to watch the videos yet but if he is as nutty as you say then you are not the only one that see's it,if what you say is true then his political career will be short lived...because the real dangerous politions will concider him a problem and push him out of the way, and soon your problem will be taken care of my friend, some people thought the same of Hughy Long and look what happened to him..I believe he was shot on the steps of the political building that he had built.

Godfather.

chadwick

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

Other countries have freedom of speech, too, and it's not a freedom of speech issue. The guy's in Congress and makes policy that effects people. If he was working at Office Max I wouldn't give a hoot if he wants to act like it's 1780, but he's not at Office Max. Your "oh well, to each their own" attitude enables a dysfunctional congress. The guy is free to talk all he wants, and everyone else is free to ask how the hell did he get there.

exactly. i do not want some nutbag fundamentalist religious zealot making policy regarding science. let this guy go and run a paper route or something.

thank you the both of you. this guy paul broun is very dangerous and i cannot understand why anyone with a pulse can support him at all.

riotgrl

redrock wrote:

riotgrl wrote:

Here's another guy that says

"“… the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise."

Not sure how any asshat thinks that slavery was a blessing in any way, shape, form or fashion. It is terrifying to me that we have so many citizens who a.) don't care about political elections or b.) vote based on one issue (whatever that issue may be). Our country is better educated now than at any time in the past yet we keep making stupid, senseless, and borderline dangerous political choices. It's time for the American populace to WAKE UP!

Here's a link to the entire article where he makes even more stupid assertions:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/05/jon-hubbard-arkansas-slavery-book_n_1943661.html

Is it? One wonders. The people making the kind of statements cited in this thread have absolutely no place in positions of 'power' or influence. Seems they also have a following listening to them and agreeing. What they think and say in private, in their 'group', at their church, etc. is their business. But potentially having these beliefs projected onto their 'political life'/career and possibly future policies is downright scary. Broun being a medical doctor and sitting on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.... shit. Ignorance and fundamentalism is not good...

Technically? Yes, simply because most people are literate. In reality, no. People choose to be ignorant of facts, or to feign ignorance, because to acknowledge some truths might mean that you have to change your entire world view. I know people that will never give up some of their truths because change would be too difficult for them. Politicians, on the other hand, have "beliefs" that seem to fluctuate with the wind. I certainly agree with your assertion that having someone, anyone, on a science committee that does not seem to believe in accepted scientific thought is, indeed, scary shit.