Barack Hussein Obama and his hardship growing up

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Poor guy


A newly published report raises questions about some established narratives in the early life of President Obama, suggesting the president's upbringing was one of privilege and not hardship.

The Washington Examiner published a 10-part report detailing Obama's path to the White House. Some of the information appears to conflict with the narratives the Obamas and the Democratic Party have pushed, most recently at the party's convention in Charlotte.

At the convention, Michelle Obama said they "were both raised by families who didn't have much in the way of money or material possessions."

Examiner Executive Editor Mark Tapscott questioned that.

"I'm sure he had a difficult childhood given the circumstances with his parents, but from a financial standpoint and social standpoint and so forth , it was not an underprivileged childhood," Tapscott said.

The Examiner reports that the Indonesian neighborhood, Menteng, where Obama's mother and step-father raised the young Barry Soetoro was the most exclusive in Jakarta.
Later sent to live with his grandparents in Hawaii where his grandmother was a bank vice president, Obama attended the exclusive Punahoe school. He later went on to Columbia University and Harvard Law School.
In his first job as a Chicago community organizer, Obama rejected more lucrative offers.

But while he worked in the city's impoverished Southside, he lived in exclusive Hyde Park.

Of his 12 years as a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, Time Magazine said in 2008: "Within a few years he had become a rock star professor with hordes of devoted students." But student evaluations obtained by the Examiner tell a different story. In 2003, only a third of students recommended his courses.

"It went steadily down in the last five or six years that he was there. He was among the lowest-ranked professors," Tapscott said.

Nor did the future president leave any record of scholarly writings, while similarly credentialed colleagues had a prolific presence in law journals.

"He showed up to class, he gave his lectures and he was gone," Tapscott said.

The Examiner found sharp contrasts between Obama's memory of his legal work, and the record of it.

In "Dreams From My Father," he wrote: "In my legal practice, I work mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly built grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor."

But a document filed with the Illinois Secretary of State shows the young lawyer represented some well-heeled clients. In one case, he represented a politically connected preacher and real estate developer, Bishop Arthur Brazier, who had failed to provide heating and running water to 15 apartments in the dead of winter. Obama's client had all the tenants forcibly removed from the building, yet paid only a $50 fine under Obama's legal counsel.

For all of his critics on the right, community organizer Obama left many colleagues on the left disheartened, by allegedly selling out to the Chicago establishment.

The late radical journalist Robert Fitch, who specialized in urban politics, said: "What we see is that the Chicago core of the Obama Coalition is made of blacks who've moved up by moving poor blacks out."

D'Anna Carter, a neighborhood activist, singled out the president's closest aid, Valerie Jarrett, for criticism. Jarrett was CEO of Habitat Co., a low-income real estate firm that made millions of dollars in part by leveraging federal programs like the Low Income Housing Tax Credit with subprime lending to poor people.

"They were never interested in poor people. They would sell poor people a bill of goods," Carter said.

Some argue that President Obama won office on his strength as a reformer - he did vow to "fundamentally transform America." But the Examiner found as a state senator he rejected overtures to reform the Chicago machine.

"He made it pretty clear he wasn't interested in risk-taking or challenging the Chicago machine's lock on a lot of mechanics of government in Cook County in Chicago," said one frustrated former colleague, former state Sen. Steve Rauschenberger.

Mayor Richard J Daley -- the last of the big city bosses -- built that machine by rewarding allies with patronage positions. Today, Obama's choice of aides suggests an unbreakable bond to that machine. Closest aide Valerie Jarrett, campaign adviser David Axelrod, and former chiefs of staff Rahm Emanuel and Bill Daley all cut their political teeth in the Daley machine.

The legendary Chicago Tribune writer Mike Royko once penned this advice to mayoral candidate Richard M. Daley, the son of the big city boss: "Reward your friends and punish your enemies." It is a phrase the president once used to describe how Latinos should think about elections.

In a 2010 interview, Obama urged Latinos to say: "We're gonna punish our enemies and reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us."

To that end, The Examiner says 31 Obama campaign bundlers received clean-energy loans and grants totaling more than $16 billion. The auto bailout favored the United Auto Workers -- over secured creditors -- and eight of the 10 states getting the most contracts from the stimulus program were heavily Democratic.



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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    :lol::lol::lol: ...how did I miss that ???? :lol::lol:


    Godfather.
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    The Washington Examiners and Fox News: the Mantle and Maris of Reliable Information

    ;)
  • Yeah this will surely bump Willard past Obama :lol::lol: like they say if you throw enough shite some will surely stick :P
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    the best part of it all is to see the reactions the story gets :lol:


    Godfather.
  • Ok... so to combat the mess of a campaign and the fallout from a video at a recent fundraiser, Fox News and the Washington Examiner pull out a 14 year old video, and someone talking about Obama's elementary school?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Godfather. wrote:
    :lol::lol::lol: ...how did I miss that ???? :lol::lol:


    Godfather.

    cuz someone didn't email it to ya? ... :P
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    :lol::lol::lol: ...how did I miss that ???? :lol::lol:


    Godfather.

    cuz someone didn't email it to ya? ... :P

    you are quick my friend :lol::lol:

    Godfather.
  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    this is from fox news? :fp: :fp: :fp:

    let's bot take anything gospel from foxnews.. even MSNBC.. let's stick with CNN etc. etc.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    which news station is paid off by thr democrats ?

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    So?


    so they all have agendas...fox is just more fun to read/watch. :D
    usally the news is correct(as correct as anybody elses station) but with
    their own Fox spin to it and all the other news stations I read have read/watched have their own spin
    so I just lump it all togeather and move on. :mrgreen:

    Godfather.
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,864
    Fox spent 4 hours the other day railing on Obama for taking a picture with a guy dressed as a pirate on talk like a pirate day. They made a huge deal about how he didn't have time to talk to the Israeli PM but he could do a photo op with a pirate. The problem is the picture was taken in 2009. They spent FOUR hours on this! That's creating news. Find me another network that does that. Slanted, sure but nobody makes up shit like they do.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I'll bet he rode a golden tricycle up and down the hills of Hawaii.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Fox spent 4 hours the other day railing on Obama for taking a picture with a guy dressed as a pirate on talk like a pirate day. They made a huge deal about how he didn't have time to talk to the Israeli PM but he could do a photo op with a pirate. The problem is the picture was taken in 2009. They spent FOUR hours on this! That's creating news. Find me another network that does that. Slanted, sure but nobody makes up shit like they do.

    :lol::lol: ain't it cool.

    Godfather.
  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    Godfather. wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Fox spent 4 hours the other day railing on Obama for taking a picture with a guy dressed as a pirate on talk like a pirate day. They made a huge deal about how he didn't have time to talk to the Israeli PM but he could do a photo op with a pirate. The problem is the picture was taken in 2009. They spent FOUR hours on this! That's creating news. Find me another network that does that. Slanted, sure but nobody makes up shit like they do.

    :lol::lol: ain't it cool.

    Godfather.

    Great answer Godfather, why am I not suprised??

    A perfect example of a news outlet that actually makes something up, and you flippantly pass it off. No doubt you will continue to use it as a realiable source of your info.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Moonpig wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Fox spent 4 hours the other day railing on Obama for taking a picture with a guy dressed as a pirate on talk like a pirate day. They made a huge deal about how he didn't have time to talk to the Israeli PM but he could do a photo op with a pirate. The problem is the picture was taken in 2009. They spent FOUR hours on this! That's creating news. Find me another network that does that. Slanted, sure but nobody makes up shit like they do.

    :lol::lol: ain't it cool.

    Godfather.

    Great answer Godfather, why am I not suprised??

    A perfect example of a news outlet that actually makes something up, and you flippantly pass it off. No doubt you will continue to use it as a realiable source of your info.


    and you will continue to be just as you are now and I am not suprised ;)

    you are always look for argument or a way to pass judgment...you're starting to bore me, be good boy and run along now :lol:

    Godfather.
  • MoonpigMoonpig Posts: 659
    Godfather. wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Fox spent 4 hours the other day railing on Obama for taking a picture with a guy dressed as a pirate on talk like a pirate day. They made a huge deal about how he didn't have time to talk to the Israeli PM but he could do a photo op with a pirate. The problem is the picture was taken in 2009. They spent FOUR hours on this! That's creating news. Find me another network that does that. Slanted, sure but nobody makes up shit like they do.

    :lol::lol: ain't it cool.

    Godfather.

    Great answer Godfather, why am I not suprised??

    A perfect example of a news outlet that actually makes something up, and you flippantly pass it off. No doubt you will continue to use it as a realiable source of your info.[/quote]


    and you will continue to be just as you are now and I am not suprised ;)

    you are always look for argument or a way to pass judgment...you're starting to bore me, be good boy and run along now :lol:

    Godfather.[/quote]

    So in other words you have nothing to add. Suprise suprise.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Moonpig wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Fox spent 4 hours the other day railing on Obama for taking a picture with a guy dressed as a pirate on talk like a pirate day. They made a huge deal about how he didn't have time to talk to the Israeli PM but he could do a photo op with a pirate. The problem is the picture was taken in 2009. They spent FOUR hours on this! That's creating news. Find me another network that does that. Slanted, sure but nobody makes up shit like they do.

    :lol::lol: ain't it cool.

    Godfather.

    Great answer Godfather, why am I not suprised??

    A perfect example of a news outlet that actually makes something up, and you flippantly pass it off. No doubt you will continue to use it as a realiable source of your info.


    and you will continue to be just as you are now and I am not suprised ;)

    you are always look for argument or a way to pass judgment...you're starting to bore me, be good boy and run along now :lol:

    Godfather.[/quote]

    So in other words you have nothing to add. Suprise suprise.[/quote]


    add to what ???? your opinion of a news station ? if your opinion ment anything to me then I might as you say... "add" to it, are you still here ???? :lol::lol::lol:


    Godfather.
  • Calling Fox "News" a "news station" is about as accurate as calling me "a ladies man."

    They might occasionally read the news but it's mostly just political propaganda, made up and slanted and warped to the point that it's just the rantings of a bunch of conservative jerks.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,411
    Calling Fox "News" a "news station" is about as accurate as calling me "a ladies man."

    :lol:
    They might occasionally read the news but it's mostly just political propaganda, made up and slanted and warped to the point that it's just the rantings of a bunch of conservative jerks.

    Yeah, Fox is not even entertaining.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Calling Fox "News" a "news station" is about as accurate as calling me "a ladies man."

    They might occasionally read the news but it's mostly just political propaganda, made up and slanted and warped to the point that it's just the rantings of a bunch of conservative jerks.

    a ladies man :lol::lol::lol: that was good.

    you guy's take things too serious, I don't know how many times I have said that fox .....oh shit never mind,
    you guy's are worse than any republican I have ever met, always blamming,complaining and trashing anything that doesn't fit into you ideas of life love and politics....more so than most anyway.

    IT AIN'T ALL THAT BAD :shock: relax take it ez,have a beer and chill. ;)

    Godfather.
  • Godfather. wrote:
    Calling Fox "News" a "news station" is about as accurate as calling me "a ladies man."

    They might occasionally read the news but it's mostly just political propaganda, made up and slanted and warped to the point that it's just the rantings of a bunch of conservative jerks.

    a ladies man :lol::lol::lol: that was good.

    you guy's take things too serious, I don't know how many times I have said that fox .....oh shit never mind,
    you guy's are worse than any republican I have ever met, always blamming,complaining and trashing anything that doesn't fit into you ideas of life love and politics....more so than most anyway.

    IT AIN'T ALL THAT BAD :shock: relax take it ez,have a beer and chill. ;)

    Godfather.

    you tell people to chill when they post something negative about fox news, but most of the links you post on serious topics are from FOX news.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    Calling Fox "News" a "news station" is about as accurate as calling me "a ladies man."

    They might occasionally read the news but it's mostly just political propaganda, made up and slanted and warped to the point that it's just the rantings of a bunch of conservative jerks.

    a ladies man :lol::lol::lol: that was good.

    you guy's take things too serious, I don't know how many times I have said that fox .....oh shit never mind,
    you guy's are worse than any republican I have ever met, always blamming,complaining and trashing anything that doesn't fit into you ideas of life love and politics....more so than most anyway.

    IT AIN'T ALL THAT BAD :shock: relax take it ez,have a beer and chill. ;)

    Godfather.

    you tell people to chill when they post something negative about fox news, but most of the links you post on serious topics are from FOX news.

    yea...I'm not the only who has used Fox for a news storys and just because the others don't like fox am I supposed to stop reading fox and start reading the onion or the globe or one of the other on line mag's just to make everybody happy ?

    Godfather.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Calling Fox "News" a "news station" is about as accurate as calling me "a ladies man."

    If this nerd can do it, you can too POD! lol
  • Godfather. wrote:
    yea...I'm not the only who has used Fox for a news storys and just because the others don't like fox am I supposed to stop reading fox and start reading the onion or the globe or one of the other on line mag's just to make everybody happy ?

    Godfather.

    no, read what you want. but you missed the point. you can't elevate it to serious bi-partisan news outlet one thread, and then laugh about it in another.
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  • Hey, does anyone know Mitt Romney's middle name?? it's his FIRST name!

    oh yeah, no one cares because he doesn't share a moniker with a former terrorist dictator. silly me. :roll:
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    barack_obama_smoking_weed1.jpg?w=420

    Poor guy


    A newly published report raises questions about some established narratives in the early life of President Obama, suggesting the president's upbringing was one of privilege and not hardship.

    The Washington Examiner published a 10-part report detailing Obama's path to the White House. Some of the information appears to conflict with the narratives the Obamas and the Democratic Party have pushed, most recently at the party's convention in Charlotte.

    At the convention, Michelle Obama said they "were both raised by families who didn't have much in the way of money or material possessions."

    Examiner Executive Editor Mark Tapscott questioned that.

    "I'm sure he had a difficult childhood given the circumstances with his parents, but from a financial standpoint and social standpoint and so forth , it was not an underprivileged childhood," Tapscott said.

    The Examiner reports that the Indonesian neighborhood, Menteng, where Obama's mother and step-father raised the young Barry Soetoro was the most exclusive in Jakarta.
    Later sent to live with his grandparents in Hawaii where his grandmother was a bank vice president, Obama attended the exclusive Punahoe school. He later went on to Columbia University and Harvard Law School.
    In his first job as a Chicago community organizer, Obama rejected more lucrative offers.

    But while he worked in the city's impoverished Southside, he lived in exclusive Hyde Park.

    Of his 12 years as a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, Time Magazine said in 2008: "Within a few years he had become a rock star professor with hordes of devoted students." But student evaluations obtained by the Examiner tell a different story. In 2003, only a third of students recommended his courses.

    "It went steadily down in the last five or six years that he was there. He was among the lowest-ranked professors," Tapscott said.

    Nor did the future president leave any record of scholarly writings, while similarly credentialed colleagues had a prolific presence in law journals.

    "He showed up to class, he gave his lectures and he was gone," Tapscott said.

    The Examiner found sharp contrasts between Obama's memory of his legal work, and the record of it.

    In "Dreams From My Father," he wrote: "In my legal practice, I work mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly built grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor."

    But a document filed with the Illinois Secretary of State shows the young lawyer represented some well-heeled clients. In one case, he represented a politically connected preacher and real estate developer, Bishop Arthur Brazier, who had failed to provide heating and running water to 15 apartments in the dead of winter. Obama's client had all the tenants forcibly removed from the building, yet paid only a $50 fine under Obama's legal counsel.

    For all of his critics on the right, community organizer Obama left many colleagues on the left disheartened, by allegedly selling out to the Chicago establishment.

    The late radical journalist Robert Fitch, who specialized in urban politics, said: "What we see is that the Chicago core of the Obama Coalition is made of blacks who've moved up by moving poor blacks out."

    D'Anna Carter, a neighborhood activist, singled out the president's closest aid, Valerie Jarrett, for criticism. Jarrett was CEO of Habitat Co., a low-income real estate firm that made millions of dollars in part by leveraging federal programs like the Low Income Housing Tax Credit with subprime lending to poor people.

    "They were never interested in poor people. They would sell poor people a bill of goods," Carter said.

    Some argue that President Obama won office on his strength as a reformer - he did vow to "fundamentally transform America." But the Examiner found as a state senator he rejected overtures to reform the Chicago machine.

    "He made it pretty clear he wasn't interested in risk-taking or challenging the Chicago machine's lock on a lot of mechanics of government in Cook County in Chicago," said one frustrated former colleague, former state Sen. Steve Rauschenberger.

    Mayor Richard J Daley -- the last of the big city bosses -- built that machine by rewarding allies with patronage positions. Today, Obama's choice of aides suggests an unbreakable bond to that machine. Closest aide Valerie Jarrett, campaign adviser David Axelrod, and former chiefs of staff Rahm Emanuel and Bill Daley all cut their political teeth in the Daley machine.

    The legendary Chicago Tribune writer Mike Royko once penned this advice to mayoral candidate Richard M. Daley, the son of the big city boss: "Reward your friends and punish your enemies." It is a phrase the president once used to describe how Latinos should think about elections.

    In a 2010 interview, Obama urged Latinos to say: "We're gonna punish our enemies and reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us."

    To that end, The Examiner says 31 Obama campaign bundlers received clean-energy loans and grants totaling more than $16 billion. The auto bailout favored the United Auto Workers -- over secured creditors -- and eight of the 10 states getting the most contracts from the stimulus program were heavily Democratic.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09 ... z272UffG00


    How can you not feel bad for Pananma Jack. :lol:

    Wonderful article. :mrgreen:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,411
    DS1119 wrote:
    barack_obama_smoking_weed1.jpg?w=420

    Poor guy


    A newly published report raises questions about some established narratives in the early life of President Obama, suggesting the president's upbringing was one of privilege and not hardship.

    The Washington Examiner published a 10-part report detailing Obama's path to the White House. Some of the information appears to conflict with the narratives the Obamas and the Democratic Party have pushed, most recently at the party's convention in Charlotte.

    At the convention, Michelle Obama said they "were both raised by families who didn't have much in the way of money or material possessions."

    Examiner Executive Editor Mark Tapscott questioned that.

    "I'm sure he had a difficult childhood given the circumstances with his parents, but from a financial standpoint and social standpoint and so forth , it was not an underprivileged childhood," Tapscott said.

    The Examiner reports that the Indonesian neighborhood, Menteng, where Obama's mother and step-father raised the young Barry Soetoro was the most exclusive in Jakarta.
    Later sent to live with his grandparents in Hawaii where his grandmother was a bank vice president, Obama attended the exclusive Punahoe school. He later went on to Columbia University and Harvard Law School.
    In his first job as a Chicago community organizer, Obama rejected more lucrative offers.

    But while he worked in the city's impoverished Southside, he lived in exclusive Hyde Park.

    Of his 12 years as a lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School, Time Magazine said in 2008: "Within a few years he had become a rock star professor with hordes of devoted students." But student evaluations obtained by the Examiner tell a different story. In 2003, only a third of students recommended his courses.

    "It went steadily down in the last five or six years that he was there. He was among the lowest-ranked professors," Tapscott said.

    Nor did the future president leave any record of scholarly writings, while similarly credentialed colleagues had a prolific presence in law journals.

    "He showed up to class, he gave his lectures and he was gone," Tapscott said.

    The Examiner found sharp contrasts between Obama's memory of his legal work, and the record of it.

    In "Dreams From My Father," he wrote: "In my legal practice, I work mostly with churches and community groups, men and women who quietly built grocery stores and health clinics in the inner city, and housing for the poor."

    But a document filed with the Illinois Secretary of State shows the young lawyer represented some well-heeled clients. In one case, he represented a politically connected preacher and real estate developer, Bishop Arthur Brazier, who had failed to provide heating and running water to 15 apartments in the dead of winter. Obama's client had all the tenants forcibly removed from the building, yet paid only a $50 fine under Obama's legal counsel.

    For all of his critics on the right, community organizer Obama left many colleagues on the left disheartened, by allegedly selling out to the Chicago establishment.

    The late radical journalist Robert Fitch, who specialized in urban politics, said: "What we see is that the Chicago core of the Obama Coalition is made of blacks who've moved up by moving poor blacks out."

    D'Anna Carter, a neighborhood activist, singled out the president's closest aid, Valerie Jarrett, for criticism. Jarrett was CEO of Habitat Co., a low-income real estate firm that made millions of dollars in part by leveraging federal programs like the Low Income Housing Tax Credit with subprime lending to poor people.

    "They were never interested in poor people. They would sell poor people a bill of goods," Carter said.

    Some argue that President Obama won office on his strength as a reformer - he did vow to "fundamentally transform America." But the Examiner found as a state senator he rejected overtures to reform the Chicago machine.

    "He made it pretty clear he wasn't interested in risk-taking or challenging the Chicago machine's lock on a lot of mechanics of government in Cook County in Chicago," said one frustrated former colleague, former state Sen. Steve Rauschenberger.

    Mayor Richard J Daley -- the last of the big city bosses -- built that machine by rewarding allies with patronage positions. Today, Obama's choice of aides suggests an unbreakable bond to that machine. Closest aide Valerie Jarrett, campaign adviser David Axelrod, and former chiefs of staff Rahm Emanuel and Bill Daley all cut their political teeth in the Daley machine.

    The legendary Chicago Tribune writer Mike Royko once penned this advice to mayoral candidate Richard M. Daley, the son of the big city boss: "Reward your friends and punish your enemies." It is a phrase the president once used to describe how Latinos should think about elections.

    In a 2010 interview, Obama urged Latinos to say: "We're gonna punish our enemies and reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us."

    To that end, The Examiner says 31 Obama campaign bundlers received clean-energy loans and grants totaling more than $16 billion. The auto bailout favored the United Auto Workers -- over secured creditors -- and eight of the 10 states getting the most contracts from the stimulus program were heavily Democratic.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09 ... z272UffG00


    How can you not feel bad for Pananma Jack. :lol:

    Wonderful article. :mrgreen:

    Are you sure that's not Panama Red? :lol:
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Godfather. wrote:
    yea...I'm not the only who has used Fox for a news storys and just because the others don't like fox am I supposed to stop reading fox and start reading the onion or the globe or one of the other on line mag's just to make everybody happy ?

    Godfather.


    the onion is deliberately satirical... foxnews isnt even deliberately factual. ;)8-)8-)
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