is this why mary magdalene was painted as a whore??

chadwick

i am amazed many have no problem speaking or typing the 'wh' word. i am the last person in the world that cares if others curse or whatever but this is something else here. like the 'c' word i cannot use either one. it makes me feel like a fucking moron and without class so i don't use them word. and i adore women a lot and i know they dislike such language.

i am amazed so many are as carefree as they are with this word. fuck fuck fuck shit balls. if i were a mod here i would give out warnings & 24/48 hr bans for such vulgarity.

furthermore... who gives a fat rat's frickin ass if what's her name enjoyed more than one man in a sexual nature or not. men been nailing everything that walks (or not) for thousands & thousands of years. men be the biggest 'wh's around.

i myself could be viewed as a 'wh' by many. i've had one nightstands...countless times. and a whole frickin pile of girl friends. sometimes 4 g/f at a time. yep im a 'wh' alright.

frickin bullshit.

MotoDC

polaris_x wrote:

this is what we are responding to ... you missed the entire point of the thread ... feel free to focus on the inconsistencies on the use of a word ... i have no position on that one way or another ...

but you also voiced a concern over the title and the subject which based on this post and others clearly indicates that you've taken both the title and the topic out of context ...

I agree that that is one way to interpret the OP. Specifically, that OP was implying that the catholic church went out of its way to characterize Mary M. as a whore (prostitute) in order to neutralize the notion of her having married Jesus. I.e., from the Church's POV, if we can convince people Mary M. was a whore, then nobody will believe that she and Jesus were married.

The trouble is that OP didn't say any of that. OP typed "is this why mary magdalene was painted as a whore??", then posted an article that doesn't talk about her being a whore at all, then basically vanished from the thread. Unless and until cate (OP) comes back and explains their purpose and meaning, you're all just guessing. Polaris is assuming that cate meant what I typed above (correct me if I'm wrong, polaris); inlet is assuming cate was being intentionally vituperative and thus baiting.

PJ_Soul

chadwick wrote:

i am amazed many have no problem speaking or typing the 'wh' word. i am the last person in the world that cares if others curse or whatever but this is something else here. like the 'c' word i cannot use either one. it makes me feel like a fucking moron and without class so i don't use them word. and i adore women a lot and i know they dislike such language.

i am amazed so many are as carefree as they are with this word. fuck fuck fuck shit balls. if i were a mod here i would give out warnings & 24/48 hr bans for such vulgarity.

furthermore... who gives a fat rat's frickin ass if what's her name enjoyed more than one man in a sexual nature or not. men been nailing everything that walks (or not) for thousands & thousands of years. men be the biggest 'wh's around.

i myself could be viewed as a 'wh' by many. i've had one nightstands...countless times. and a whole frickin pile of girl friends. sometimes 4 g/f at a time. yep im a 'wh' alright.

frickin bullshit.

The word is in the dictionary AND in the Bible several times!! Just so you know! And "whore" in the context of this thread is meant in its real sense, not as slang for a promiscuous woman.
I am very happy the mods (and Eddie Vedder and Jeff Ament, clearly!) don't feel the way you do about swearing. This place would be a ghost town, since everyone would be blocked.

chadwick

PJ_Soul wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i am amazed many have no problem speaking or typing the 'wh' word. i am the last person in the world that cares if others curse or whatever but this is something else here. like the 'c' word i cannot use either one. it makes me feel like a fucking moron and without class so i don't use them word. and i adore women a lot and i know they dislike such language.

i am amazed so many are as carefree as they are with this word. fuck fuck fuck shit balls. if i were a mod here i would give out warnings & 24/48 hr bans for such vulgarity.

furthermore... who gives a fat rat's frickin ass if what's her name enjoyed more than one man in a sexual nature or not. men been nailing everything that walks (or not) for thousands & thousands of years. men be the biggest 'wh's around.

i myself could be viewed as a 'wh' by many. i've had one nightstands...countless times. and a whole frickin pile of girl friends. sometimes 4 g/f at a time. yep im a 'wh' alright.

frickin bullshit.

The word is in the dictionary AND in the Bible several times!! Just so you know! And "whore" in the context of this thread is meant in its real sense, not as slang for a promiscuous woman.
I am very happy the mods (and Eddie Vedder and Jeff Ament, clearly!) don't feel the way you do about swearing. This place would be a ghost town, since everyone would be blocked.

i swear like a trucker . it is my opinion that the 'wh' & a few other words need not be used. the use of this word is to degrade women.

horseshit nutty balls is in the crazy person's dictionary & bible too. doesn't mean the pope goes around at parties buck ass naked shouting, "eat my horseshit nutty balls"

sorry folks im sensitive when it comes to degrading women. frickin excuse the hell out of me!

PJ_Soul

chadwick wrote:

PJ_Soul wrote:

chadwick wrote:

i am amazed many have no problem speaking or typing the 'wh' word. i am the last person in the world that cares if others curse or whatever but this is something else here. like the 'c' word i cannot use either one. it makes me feel like a fucking moron and without class so i don't use them word. and i adore women a lot and i know they dislike such language.

i am amazed so many are as carefree as they are with this word. fuck fuck fuck shit balls. if i were a mod here i would give out warnings & 24/48 hr bans for such vulgarity.

furthermore... who gives a fat rat's frickin ass if what's her name enjoyed more than one man in a sexual nature or not. men been nailing everything that walks (or not) for thousands & thousands of years. men be the biggest 'wh's around.

i myself could be viewed as a 'wh' by many. i've had one nightstands...countless times. and a whole frickin pile of girl friends. sometimes 4 g/f at a time. yep im a 'wh' alright.

frickin bullshit.

The word is in the dictionary AND in the Bible several times!! Just so you know! And "whore" in the context of this thread is meant in its real sense, not as slang for a promiscuous woman.
I am very happy the mods (and Eddie Vedder and Jeff Ament, clearly!) don't feel the way you do about swearing. This place would be a ghost town, since everyone would be blocked.

i swear like a trucker . it is my opinion that the 'wh' & a few other words need not be used. the use of this word is to degrade women.

horseshit nutty balls is in the crazy person's dictionary & bible too. doesn't mean the pope goes around at parties buck ass naked shouting, "eat my horseshit nutty balls"

sorry folks im sensitive when it comes to degrading women. frickin excuse the hell out of me!

Whore is actually the biblical term for prostitute... I'm sure the Pope has likely spoken it (not that the Pope should be used as the moral compass here!!). People have claimed that Mary Magdeline was actually a whore. A prostitute. The word here is being used the same as if someone was calling a female dog a bitch...

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

i am amazed many have no problem speaking or typing the 'wh' word. i am the last person in the world that cares if others curse or whatever but this is something else here. like the 'c' word i cannot use either one. it makes me feel like a fucking moron and without class so i don't use them word. and i adore women a lot and i know they dislike such language.

i am amazed so many are as carefree as they are with this word. fuck fuck fuck shit balls. if i were a mod here i would give out warnings & 24/48 hr bans for such vulgarity.

furthermore... who gives a fat rat's frickin ass if what's her name enjoyed more than one man in a sexual nature or not. men been nailing everything that walks (or not) for thousands & thousands of years. men be the biggest 'wh's around.

i myself could be viewed as a 'wh' by many. i've had one nightstands...countless times. and a whole frickin pile of girl friends. sometimes 4 g/f at a time. yep im a 'wh' alright.

frickin bullshit.

Chad man I really like your stand up aproch and mean that with respect,you will not see me post the W word again.

Godfather.

DriftingByTheStorm

and just to play Devil's Advocate


From "The Gospel of Thomas" (a "gnostic" gospel)

saying 114:
114. Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."

Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

DriftingByTheStorm

Kat wrote:

I really don't like religious topics.

well, that's kind've sad, kat.
But i respect your opinion, i guess.

DriftingByTheStorm

BinauralJam wrote:

I think Jesus was a Jedi.

Both stories (the jesus story, and Star Wars) tell the same story, actually. So it's fitting.
George Lucas was VERY aware of what he was doing.
Both stories are stories about initiation (and both were probably written by initiates), overcoming materialism, learning the scientific truths about "god" and life, and mastering those truths to use for the good of mankind.

What do you think "the force" was?

comebackgirl

Is the issue that the word "whore" was used instead of "prostitute?" There is a history of Mary Magdalene being associated with prostitution, even "Magdalene houses" being created to reform promiscuous women. I'm not all that knowledgable about the bible...but I believe the words "whore" and "whoredom" are used many times in some versions, so within the biblical context it seems that is the term associated with prostitution (along with "harlot"). I do believe words hold power, which I have stated in other threads (mostly threads about naming same sex marriage something other than marriage). I can understand some of the heated reaction to the use of the word, but is the same reaction given when reading it in the bible?

Prince Of Dorkness

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

it would be nice if you could, at the very least, respect the beliefs of others.

When their silly fables and superstitions are no longer used as weapons against me and my family... maybe I'll reconsider. Until then... they can stick it.

But I stand by what I said. I do not believe for a second that Jesus was a real person and all the silly people thinking that the bible was written in the first hundred years after he died and hasn't been changed countless times just don't know their history.

That book was written, re-written, re-compiled and re-interpreted so many times that any actual traces of the original texts has been lost.

And most of it was made up anyway.

don smith

mary magdalene has a connction with the holly grail
i heard

inlet13

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

But I stand by what I said. I do not believe for a second that Jesus was a real person and all the silly people thinking that the bible was written in the first hundred years after he died and hasn't been changed countless times just don't know their history.

Jesus was a real person it's dictated by facts of history and the Gospels were all written in the first hundred years- which is a real fact as well.

You don't have to believe Jesus was the son of man - to realize history admits he's real. Just cause you don't want him to exist, doesn't mean he didn't.

Facts must hurt, as your hate seems to seethe for Christians. Why? I have no clue.

PJ_Soul

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

it would be nice if you could, at the very least, respect the beliefs of others.

When their silly fables and superstitions are no longer used as weapons against me and my family... maybe I'll reconsider. Until then... they can stick it.

But I stand by what I said. I do not believe for a second that Jesus was a real person and all the silly people thinking that the bible was written in the first hundred years after he died and hasn't been changed countless times just don't know their history.

That book was written, re-written, re-compiled and re-interpreted so many times that any actual traces of the original texts has been lost.

And most of it was made up anyway.

Well, I agree with everything just said about the bible, but Jesus did exist as a man ... I like to think of him as a really charismatic and much kinder David Koresh. I also believe that if he saw how his message has been twisted and perverted in his name the way it has been by organized Christianity he'd role over in his fucking grave, which he is undoubtedly still in.

inlet13

Maybe this will help the very ignorant poster who claims possibly the most famous man who ever existed and clearly did exist via historical accounts outside of religious texts,... did not exist. Feel free to read up:

From the link:

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[5][6][7][8][9][10] Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born BC 7–2 and died AD 30–36.[11][12] Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea[13][14][15] and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and Greek.[16][17][18][19][20] Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[21][22][23][24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

inlet13

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

Once again, you don't get it. I was trying to be discreet and yet let my thoughts be heard to the powers that be. You're prying. So, I'll try to explain...

My points within have to do with consistency of use of terms - like "whore" in MT. I was told not to use that term when I said corporate whore in reference to a person we all here should respect. I admitted I was wrong. I'm assuming the same should be the case for the rest of the populace within MT, if the person referenced is respected, which as a Catholic Saint - I'd say she is... the term shouldn't be used.

End of story. That's my take. It's inconsistent.

it IS consistent, you are simply not understanding the intent behind it. calling someone a name is different than just saying that word. simple as that.
.

How do "you" know someone else's intent?

PJ_Soul

inlet13 wrote:

Maybe this will help the very ignorant poster who claims possibly the most famous man who ever existed and clearly did exist via historical accounts outside of religious texts,... did not exist. Feel free to read up:

From the link:

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[5][6][7][8][9][10] Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born BC 7–2 and died AD 30–36.[11][12] Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea[13][14][15] and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and Greek.[16][17][18][19][20] Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[21][22][23][24]

Jesus the most famous man who ever existed? :think: I don't know..
A LOT of people really like Brad Pitt... Hitler is pretty well-known also.

inlet13

PJ_Soul wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

Maybe this will help the very ignorant poster who claims possibly the most famous man who ever existed and clearly did exist via historical accounts outside of religious texts,... did not exist. Feel free to read up:

From the link:

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and see the theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.[5][6][7][8][9][10] Scholars generally agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born BC 7–2 and died AD 30–36.[11][12] Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea[13][14][15] and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and Greek.[16][17][18][19][20] Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[21][22][23][24]

Jesus the most famous man who ever existed? :think: I don't know..
A LOT of people really like Brad Pitt... Hitler is pretty well-known also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

I'd say he's pretty damn popular. Like him or not. But, you're right - Brad has a nice beard, although Hitler could use some work on his facial hair.

Prince Of Dorkness

Jesus wasn't real.

He's just another invented folk hero whose life is based on solar movement.

He was "born" on December 25th. Like the date that the sun happens to start to move north on the horizon after being "dead for three days" from the winter solstice. The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power.

He "died on a cross" (like how the son hits it's southern-most point on December 21st, just under the southern "cross" which is just a constellation).

You can cry all you want and call me all the names you want (and trust me, I've been called worse and cared less about anything you could even conceive of calling me), it won't change anything.

These solar-worshipping religions were around thousands of years before Christians began to show up and will be around centuries after the last Christians finally kick it. It's all made up.



want more?

Let's talk about the celebration of his "Birth" in the spring.... "Easter."

That's just Christians stealing a Pagan holiday called "Ostara" which was a celebration of female fertility. They said that fertility was represented by rabbits (that reproduced a lot) and coloured eggs (which are clearly symbols of reproduction). Can you think of a Christian holiday that has a name that sounds like "Ostara" that's got a bunny and colored eggs?




Jesus is just another folk hero. He wasn't real. You have been had.

hostis

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Jesus wasn't real.

He's just another invented folk hero whose life is based on solar movement.

He was "born" on December 25th. Like the date that the sun happens to start to move north on the horizon after being "dead for three days" from the winter solstice. The Sun dies every year, from the 21st (solstice, lowest point in the sky) to the 25th, when the Sun reverses and begins to return to its former, higher path, after being stationary for 3 days (biblical hell visit of the Son). At the solstice, the Sun is said to be at its weakest power.

He "died on a cross" (like how the son hits it's southern-most point on December 21st, just under the southern "cross" which is just a constellation).

You can cry all you want and call me all the names you want (and trust me, I've been called worse and cared less about anything you could even conceive of calling me), it won't change anything.

These solar-worshipping religions were around thousands of years before Christians began to show up and will be around centuries after the last Christians finally kick it. It's all made up.



want more?

Let's talk about the celebration of his "Birth" in the spring.... "Easter."

That's just Christians stealing a Pagan holiday called "Ostara" which was a celebration of female fertility. They said that fertility was represented by rabbits (that reproduced a lot) and coloured eggs (which are clearly symbols of reproduction). Can you think of a Christian holiday that has a name that sounds like "Ostara" that's got a bunny and colored eggs?




Jesus is just another folk hero. He wasn't real. You have been had.

Most Christians agree Easter and Christmas have pagan origins - Dec 25th was not the birth of Jesus, that's why jehovah's don't celebrate it. As for Easter, again a stolen pagan celebration about birth.

And yes, we get it. You believe Jesus was made up. There are countless statements on this thread that state otherwise and reasons why. What's your reason why you don't believe Jesus walked this earth? where is your basis in fact?