Agreed. Anyone stupid enough to spend more for a "first pressing" DVD deserves to get ripped off! ... I can't imagine there is anyone in the world who would do that though.
I mostly agree. There are a few dvd's/blurays out there that had certain rare pressings that contained versions of movies or extras that didn't make it to other pressings. Those rare first pressings can have some value.
In the case of PJ20. The new version seems to have better packaging, the same discs, and costs $30 less. There's no reason for the original to cost more when the newer product seems superior It sucks a bit for those who originally bought it. I'm pretty tempted to try and sell my original copy and buy the new one.
I don't think of first editions of books or vinyl at all comparable to DVDs, particularly because they are not items that become obsolete as technology progresses (I mean, in the case of vinyl, people love it because it's still best quality and everything. The same can't be said about a DVD) ... who "collects" DVDs???? Don't people just want the movie to watch? DVDs do not appreciate in value or anything, and are very easily copied. I mean... I have a 20th anniversary edition of E.T. on VHS. Should I cling onto this valuable collectable?
hahaha you are looking at this logically, so it's definitely not something that interests you. But there are absolutely people who collect DVDs, just as there are people who collect Pearl Jam releases. That first edition will have value. It will surely take a hit, and won't be worth the $300 premium it was before - but I'd be surprised if the value ever dips below $100. Would love to be wrong, as I also think that's way too much.
But just as there are people who collect Hello Kitty, or shot glasses, or whatever else they happen to be into, there will be people who want the original release because of the different packaging. Has nothing at all to do with practicality or use.
I don't think of first editions of books or vinyl at all comparable to DVDs, particularly because they are not items that become obsolete as technology progresses (I mean, in the case of vinyl, people love it because it's still best quality and everything. The same can't be said about a DVD) ... who "collects" DVDs???? Don't people just want the movie to watch? DVDs do not appreciate in value or anything, and are very easily copied. I mean... I have a 20th anniversary edition of E.T. on VHS. Should I cling onto this valuable collectable?
hahaha you are looking at this logically, so it's definitely not something that interests you. But there are absolutely people who collect DVDs, just as there are people who collect Pearl Jam releases. That first edition will have value. It will surely take a hit, and won't be worth the $300 premium it was before - but I'd be surprised if the value ever dips below $100. Would love to be wrong, as I also think that's way too much.
But just as there are people who collect Hello Kitty, or shot glasses, or whatever else they happen to be into, there will be people who want the original release because of the different packaging. Has nothing at all to do with practicality or use.
Oh. Well, alright then! I didn't know! I get collecting - I collect vinyl and love it (then again, I would never buy a first pressing of a PJ album if there was a reissue). I did not know that people would collect DVDs in this way when there are superior formats to be had!
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Bah hum bug ... this hurt my flipping value big time! :evil:
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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Oh. Well, alright then! I didn't know! I get collecting - I collect vinyl and love it (then again, I would never buy a first pressing of a PJ album if there was a reissue). I did not know that people would collect DVDs in this way when there are superior formats to be had!
I don't get excited about the different releases and collecting them all, but I certainly understand the mindset. I'm a recovering poster collector, and would really want all the different variants of a poster for no reason other than to complete the collection. I finally took a step back and was like - "what am I doing?" and don't really do the poster thing anymore (although I still feel the draw).
There are people that go batshit crazy over sneakers - "sneaker freaks." Line up overnight to buy a pair of shoes that they will never wear. It's a fascinating culture, and I'm not at all meaning to imply there's anything wrong with it. Love talking about it (obviously...)
Look at this guy. This post has no mention of this being the reissue, it's showing a picture of the old package, and he specifies it won't ship until after 11/13. It's even got the exact same description from the webpage.
This is ingenious and the only way to do it. They couldn't re-release the same exact limited edition that they already released since it would de-value the original pressings (and piss off a lot of people who have this version in the process). Whether you liked the packaging or not the fact is that the limited edition was the original pressing, in limited quantities, and will be worth more than any subsequent pressing. This doesn't apply to me since I wasn't willing to pay more...I'm only interested in viewing the content and couldn't personally care less about the edition, packaging, whatever. But I understand "collecting" and this WILL apply to someone who collects. So those that have the limited editions shouldn't see too much of a decrease in value for those that collect and those that simply wanted to enjoy the content (like myself) now have a cost effective option to do so.
Honestly if you're someone that doesn't like your original pressing you should sell that for a higher dollar amount, buy the re-release, and have a little extra coin for whatever PJ releases next
Very happy about this...it's really the only way to do it to avoid pissing anyone off... thx 10C and thx to the 3K petitioners for making this happen...
This is ingenious and the only way to do it. They couldn't re-release the same exact limited edition that they already released since it would de-value the original pressings (and piss off a lot of people who have this version in the process). Whether you liked the packaging or not the fact is that the limited edition was the original pressing, in limited quantities, and will be worth more than any subsequent pressing. This doesn't apply to me since I wasn't willing to pay more...I'm only interested in viewing the content and couldn't personally care less about the edition, packaging, whatever. But I understand "collecting" and this WILL apply to someone who collects. So those that have the limited editions shouldn't see too much of a decrease in value for those that collect and those that simply wanted to enjoy the content (like myself) now have a cost effective option to do so.
Honestly if you're someone that doesn't like your original pressing you should sell that for a higher dollar amount, buy the re-release, and have a little extra coin for whatever PJ releases next
Very happy about this...it's really the only way to do it to avoid pissing anyone off... thx 10C and thx to the 3K petitioners for making this happen...
Oh, FYI, there were maybe a few hundred petitioners, and then 4 or 5 people just kept posting smiley faces every couple of days for the entire year.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Question for the master minds regarding quality and correct me if I am wrong!
Got my DVD Deluxe which I haven't opened yet, would love to get Blu Ray but I have a question, as far as I understand all the footage was not filmed in HD, is that affect the resolution on the BluRay??? Is there an actual difference between the DVD and BluRay in terms of Image Definition??? Anyone here had the chance to watch both formats???
I am hoping for a real answer and yeah you can make fun of me too, thanks ;-)
anyone?
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Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
Bill Graham Civic Auditorium - Jul 15, 2006
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Looks like the DVD is already sold out. Let's see how much longer the Blu Ray is in stock.
Over/Under is 2 days...Guesses?
Cleveland, OH - 8/26/98
Cleveland, OH - 4/25/03
Cleveland, OH - 5/20/06
Cleveland, OH - 5/9/10
(EV Solo) Detroit, MI - 6/26/11
East Troy, WI - 9/3/11
East Troy, WI - 9/4/11
Chicago, IL - 7/19/13
Shitsburgh, PA - 10/11/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Detroit, MI - 10/16/14
Lexington, KY - 4/26/16
Manchester, TN - 6/11/16 Chicago, IL - 8/18/18 Chicago, IL - 8/20/18 (EV Solo) Tempe, AZ - 3/2/19 Los Angeles, CA - 4/15/20 (Canceled) Los Angeles, CA - 4/16/20 (Canceled) Indianapolis, IN - 9/10/23 (Canceled) Indianapolis, IN - 8/26/24
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Looks like the DVD is already sold out. Let's see how much longer the Blu Ray is in stock.
Over/Under is 2 days...Guesses?
Arghh! I only just got the news and am too late already? Why the limit on numbers? I don't get it???
You can still get the Blu Ray if you wanted. :P
Cleveland, OH - 8/26/98
Cleveland, OH - 4/25/03
Cleveland, OH - 5/20/06
Cleveland, OH - 5/9/10
(EV Solo) Detroit, MI - 6/26/11
East Troy, WI - 9/3/11
East Troy, WI - 9/4/11
Chicago, IL - 7/19/13
Shitsburgh, PA - 10/11/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Detroit, MI - 10/16/14
Lexington, KY - 4/26/16
Manchester, TN - 6/11/16 Chicago, IL - 8/18/18 Chicago, IL - 8/20/18 (EV Solo) Tempe, AZ - 3/2/19 Los Angeles, CA - 4/15/20 (Canceled) Los Angeles, CA - 4/16/20 (Canceled) Indianapolis, IN - 9/10/23 (Canceled) Indianapolis, IN - 8/26/24
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Looks like the DVD is already sold out. Let's see how much longer the Blu Ray is in stock.
Over/Under is 2 days...Guesses?
Arghh! I only just got the news and am too late already? Why the limit on numbers? I don't get it???
You can still get the Blu Ray if you wanted. :P
I don't have a blue ray machine. I just got the email from 10C and come home from work and go to order right away and they're sold out. Wish I'd never known about it.
Again, why the limited numbers? I just don't get it. Harrumph! :evil:
Cleveland, OH - 8/26/98
Cleveland, OH - 4/25/03
Cleveland, OH - 5/20/06
Cleveland, OH - 5/9/10
(EV Solo) Detroit, MI - 6/26/11
East Troy, WI - 9/3/11
East Troy, WI - 9/4/11
Chicago, IL - 7/19/13
Shitsburgh, PA - 10/11/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Detroit, MI - 10/16/14
Lexington, KY - 4/26/16
Manchester, TN - 6/11/16 Chicago, IL - 8/18/18 Chicago, IL - 8/20/18 (EV Solo) Tempe, AZ - 3/2/19 Los Angeles, CA - 4/15/20 (Canceled) Los Angeles, CA - 4/16/20 (Canceled) Indianapolis, IN - 9/10/23 (Canceled) Indianapolis, IN - 8/26/24
Arghh! I only just got the news and am too late already? Why the limit on numbers? I don't get it???
You can still get the Blu Ray if you wanted. :P
I don't have a blue ray machine. I just got the email from 10C and come home from work and go to order right away and they're sold out. Wish I'd never known about it.
Again, why the limited numbers? I just don't get it. Harrumph! :evil:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if some people bought more than one so they can sell at cost to other 10c members who never got to it until way too late. Who knows? I would get the blue ray for the future. You'll have a player eventually.
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Oh god, here we go again. :fp: sounds like the petition should have been for the DVD instead of blue ray!
I'm thinking maybe 10c didn't anticipate all the people who already bought this a year ago to buy it again, but from the looks of it, many many did (for some reason). Perhaps that's why the DVD sold out so fast.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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I mostly agree. There are a few dvd's/blurays out there that had certain rare pressings that contained versions of movies or extras that didn't make it to other pressings. Those rare first pressings can have some value.
In the case of PJ20. The new version seems to have better packaging, the same discs, and costs $30 less. There's no reason for the original to cost more when the newer product seems superior
hahaha you are looking at this logically, so it's definitely not something that interests you. But there are absolutely people who collect DVDs, just as there are people who collect Pearl Jam releases. That first edition will have value. It will surely take a hit, and won't be worth the $300 premium it was before - but I'd be surprised if the value ever dips below $100. Would love to be wrong, as I also think that's way too much.
But just as there are people who collect Hello Kitty, or shot glasses, or whatever else they happen to be into, there will be people who want the original release because of the different packaging. Has nothing at all to do with practicality or use.
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I don't get excited about the different releases and collecting them all, but I certainly understand the mindset. I'm a recovering poster collector, and would really want all the different variants of a poster for no reason other than to complete the collection. I finally took a step back and was like - "what am I doing?" and don't really do the poster thing anymore (although I still feel the draw).
There are people that go batshit crazy over sneakers - "sneaker freaks." Line up overnight to buy a pair of shoes that they will never wear. It's a fascinating culture, and I'm not at all meaning to imply there's anything wrong with it. Love talking about it (obviously...)
PM me with any comments or suggestions for the app - or weigh in <a href="http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=167611
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pearl-Jam-Twent ... 3ccaca55e2
At least he's not asking $500, but it's already above what this site is asking.
Interesting...
That's the guy I was talking about. Total disgrace.
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Honestly if you're someone that doesn't like your original pressing you should sell that for a higher dollar amount, buy the re-release, and have a little extra coin for whatever PJ releases next
Very happy about this...it's really the only way to do it to avoid pissing anyone off... thx 10C and thx to the 3K petitioners for making this happen...
anyone?
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
:fp: Coming from someone who wrote this:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=189582&p=4426309#p4426309
'This boats not safe
And we're drowning.'
this fella has issues :fp:
Outside Lands Festival - Aug 28, 2009
Key Arena - Sep 21, 2009
Viejas Arena - Oct 09, 2009
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 23, 2010
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 24, 2010
Oracle Arena Nov 26, 2013
Shoreline Amphitheater - Oct 26, 2014
Parque Simon Bolivar - Bogota, Colombia - Nov 25, 2015 - MY HOMETOWN!!!
Madison Square Garden - May 01, 2016
Madison Square Garden - May 02, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 20, 2016
Wrigley Field - Aug 22, 2016 - MY B-DAY!!!
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That's hilarious!
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
touche'
Over/Under is 2 days...Guesses?
Cleveland, OH - 4/25/03
Cleveland, OH - 5/20/06
Cleveland, OH - 5/9/10
(EV Solo) Detroit, MI - 6/26/11
East Troy, WI - 9/3/11
East Troy, WI - 9/4/11
Chicago, IL - 7/19/13
Shitsburgh, PA - 10/11/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Detroit, MI - 10/16/14
Lexington, KY - 4/26/16
Manchester, TN - 6/11/16
Chicago, IL - 8/18/18
Chicago, IL - 8/20/18
(EV Solo) Tempe, AZ - 3/2/19
Los Angeles, CA - 4/15/20 (Canceled)
Los Angeles, CA - 4/16/20 (Canceled)
Indianapolis, IN - 9/10/23 (Canceled)
Indianapolis, IN - 8/26/24
Arghh! I only just got the news and am too late already? Why the limit on numbers? I don't get it???
You can still get the Blu Ray if you wanted. :P
Cleveland, OH - 4/25/03
Cleveland, OH - 5/20/06
Cleveland, OH - 5/9/10
(EV Solo) Detroit, MI - 6/26/11
East Troy, WI - 9/3/11
East Troy, WI - 9/4/11
Chicago, IL - 7/19/13
Shitsburgh, PA - 10/11/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Detroit, MI - 10/16/14
Lexington, KY - 4/26/16
Manchester, TN - 6/11/16
Chicago, IL - 8/18/18
Chicago, IL - 8/20/18
(EV Solo) Tempe, AZ - 3/2/19
Los Angeles, CA - 4/15/20 (Canceled)
Los Angeles, CA - 4/16/20 (Canceled)
Indianapolis, IN - 9/10/23 (Canceled)
Indianapolis, IN - 8/26/24
I don't have a blue ray machine. I just got the email from 10C and come home from work and go to order right away and they're sold out. Wish I'd never known about it.
Again, why the limited numbers? I just don't get it. Harrumph! :evil:
Cleveland, OH - 4/25/03
Cleveland, OH - 5/20/06
Cleveland, OH - 5/9/10
(EV Solo) Detroit, MI - 6/26/11
East Troy, WI - 9/3/11
East Troy, WI - 9/4/11
Chicago, IL - 7/19/13
Shitsburgh, PA - 10/11/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Los Angeles, CA - 11/23/13
Detroit, MI - 10/16/14
Lexington, KY - 4/26/16
Manchester, TN - 6/11/16
Chicago, IL - 8/18/18
Chicago, IL - 8/20/18
(EV Solo) Tempe, AZ - 3/2/19
Los Angeles, CA - 4/15/20 (Canceled)
Los Angeles, CA - 4/16/20 (Canceled)
Indianapolis, IN - 9/10/23 (Canceled)
Indianapolis, IN - 8/26/24
I'm thinking maybe 10c didn't anticipate all the people who already bought this a year ago to buy it again, but from the looks of it, many many did (for some reason). Perhaps that's why the DVD sold out so fast.
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