11 years later...

drummerboy_73drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
edited September 2012 in A Moving Train
Whatever your particular political view may be, if you have a chance tomorrow, thank a soldier, vet, firefighter, or police officer for their service. They may not have been at Ground Zero, but chances are most have made sacrifices which many of us haven't or will ever have to.

THANK YOU.

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  • I'm suprised and disheartened to see so few responses. :|

    Much love, much respect and prayers to all those who serve.
  • KnZiE94KnZiE94 Posts: 158
    Words can't describe how grateful I am to those you have served our country! Thank You!
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  • respect to the people lost their lifes that day...

    this was a bad ,sad day for all the world...

    i wish my best to the families lost their love ones
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    I'm suprised and disheartened to see so few responses. :|

    Much love, much respect and prayers to all those who serve.

    I think there are so few responses because (a) it's nighttime and (b) we all agree. I was going to respond earlier, but I didn't have anything to add to the conversation except, "Yeah! I agree!" So, here goes anyway:

    Yeah! I agree! :thumbup:

    One thing I have been thinking about regarding this event, though, is how there are now actually people - some of them even adults - who don't really remember this, or who have a child's memory of it. It's interesting to talk to people who were children when this happened and hear their perspectives about that day or talk to children who weren't yet born at the time and find out what their understanding of it is.
  • :oops:
    _ wrote:
    I'm suprised and disheartened to see so few responses. :|

    Much love, much respect and prayers to all those who serve.

    I think there are so few responses because (a) it's nighttime and (b) we all agree. I was going to respond earlier, but I didn't have anything to add to the conversation except, "Yeah! I agree!" So, here goes anyway:

    Yeah! I agree! :thumbup:

    One thing I have been thinking about regarding this event, though, is how there are now actually people - some of them even adults - who don't really remember this, or who have a child's memory of it. It's interesting to talk to people who were children when this happened and hear their perspectives about that day or talk to children who weren't yet born at the time and find out what their understanding of it is.


    :oops: I did criticize too soon, we have a great community I should have known better.

    Sad day, one day I will never forget.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    Have any of you seen that movie Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close? It's about a kid whose dad dies in the attacks and his reaction, including his memory and understanding of that day and the many messages his dad left on the answering machine between when the first plane hit and when the tower he was in fell. Good movie.
  • _ wrote:
    Have any of you seen that movie Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close? It's about a kid whose dad dies in the attacks and his reaction, including his memory and understanding of that day and the many messages his dad left on the answering machine between when the first plane hit and when the tower he was in fell. Good movie.
    oh ...i want to see this..
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    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • KnZiE94KnZiE94 Posts: 158
    _ wrote:
    Have any of you seen that movie Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close? It's about a kid whose dad dies in the attacks and his reaction, including his memory and understanding of that day and the many messages his dad left on the answering machine between when the first plane hit and when the tower he was in fell. Good movie.

    I saw it, it was good! But sad at the same time.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    love and respect to all involved,my good friend Carlos who was a police officer at the time (retired now) was on the scene and we talked when we met up in oklama a few years back,he lost many friends and as he told me the story of his experience that day..my aligeries acted up and my eyes wouldn't stop watering,Carlos is my hero, he had been running a BMX team (Felt Racing) at the time and still does,Carlos is just one of those people that care about others and the loss he experienced that day still hurts him.
    I was talking to him on facebook the other day and told him he is a true American hero and he replyed that he is not a hero but lucky enough to know many of the heros that day, that's Carlos man,there nothing he wouldn't do to help someone the guy is one of the best people I have ever met.

    Godfather.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
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    a local high school placed on their lawn 2997 flags with the name of each life lost

    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/19507 ... ims-of-911
  • pandora wrote:
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    a local high school placed on their lawn 2997 flags with the name of each life lost

    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/19507 ... ims-of-911
    thats beautiful....good to honor those people like that
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  • I remember the day well... as I am sure most of us do.
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Sadly, the weather was just like it is today. How could you forget? Best wishes to all affected and all that serve our country.
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  • To D and J..

    Miss you...

    A beautiful Tuesday with politics in the air...
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  • Ironically (not even sure that's the right word for this), the weather is almost exactly as it was that day here in NY - bright, sunny, not too warm on a late summer day (And it is a Tuesday). I was working in Manhattan then. This past Sunday, I was on the soccer field in a town on Long Island that was one of the hardest hit that day and they had their flag at half mast. And, today I sit in an office on Long Island in another one of the towns that was hardest hit. My afternoon walk will certainly include stopping by the permanent memorial near the center to those that we should remember and another near the train station to the brave men and women that helped that day.

    Hard to live in this area and not see rememberances of it almost every day. One of my other sons was born 2 weeks after that day, and as we travel around the Island to play soccer, it's hard to not think of how many kids and families he's playing against that were impacted so directly by that day.
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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thanks for the simple but eloquent post, drummerboy.
  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    An unforgettable day.

    My heartfelt respect and honor to all who lost their lives that day and to all first responders who continue to carry out their missions.
    _ wrote:
    One thing I have been thinking about regarding this event, though, is how there are now actually people - some of them even adults - who don't really remember this, or who have a child's memory of it. It's interesting to talk to people who were children when this happened and hear their perspectives about that day or talk to children who weren't yet born at the time and find out what their understanding of it is.
    This was brought home to me a year or so ago when I was checking out a book from the library. It had a photo of the WTC on the cover and the teenager who checked me out started talking about how she'd recently seen a TV program about 9/11. Her astonishment at all the things that occurred was a real jolt to me and made me think about the people who are younger than I am and how they perceive it. I have a better appreciation for older generations that lived through traumatic events that I can only see from the view of history.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I have a better appreciation for older generations that lived through traumatic events that I can only see from the view of history.
    Excellent point - me too. It's too bad there aren't many left from the WWII/Holocaust era. Much to be gleaned on so many levels from their experiences.

    (thanks to my dad for sharing that part of his life with me, and for serving this country so honorably)
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Without question, the entire world changed that day. Prayers to those that lost friends and family due to that tragic day.
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    An unforgettable day.

    My heartfelt respect and honor to all who lost their lives that day and to all first responders who continue to carry out their missions.
    _ wrote:
    One thing I have been thinking about regarding this event, though, is how there are now actually people - some of them even adults - who don't really remember this, or who have a child's memory of it. It's interesting to talk to people who were children when this happened and hear their perspectives about that day or talk to children who weren't yet born at the time and find out what their understanding of it is.
    This was brought home to me a year or so ago when I was checking out a book from the library. It had a photo of the WTC on the cover and the teenager who checked me out started talking about how she'd recently seen a TV program about 9/11. Her astonishment at all the things that occurred was a real jolt to me and made me think about the people who are younger than I am and how they perceive it. I have a better appreciation for older generations that lived through traumatic events that I can only see from the view of history.

    Yes, it's amazing to me that some people don't remember it. Seems like just yesterday. Imagine what WWII era people have been feeling like all these years when most of us don't actually remember something as horrible and ongoing as the Holocaust. It guess it's this way with a lot of things in life though.

    In related news, I just saw this headline from The Onion:
    18-Year-Old Fighting In Afghanistan Has 9/11 Explained To Him By Older Soldier
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Ironically (not even sure that's the right word for this), the weather is almost exactly as it was that day here in NY - bright, sunny, not too warm on a late summer day (And it is a Tuesday).

    ^^^, it's a little spooky being in Manhattan today.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,305
    Ironically (not even sure that's the right word for this), the weather is almost exactly as it was that day here in NY - bright, sunny, not too warm on a late summer day (And it is a Tuesday).

    ^^^, it's a little spooky being in Manhattan today.

    Just like it was a little spooky working across the Hudson River in Jersey City, which I did at the time. Except I worked nights, which meant I worked the night before and was in the concourse at 2:30 AM on Sept. 11, making among the handful of people that were the last to be there in overnight hours switching from the PATH Train and the Subway.

    To me, that was my first job after college and going through the World Trade Center concourse represented the start of good things and the feeling that you had somewhat made it for the time being.
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  • "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • I can remember as a child (4th or 5th grade), my school planned a field trip to the twin towers (as I never called them anything else). Long and short, I couldn't go but knew I would get to go someday being that I lived 45 minutes east of the city. Like with everything else, life and time got in the way. I fell into the notion of "Ahhhh, it will always be there." Over the 21 1/2 years I did live in NY, I walked around the towers a handful of times but never entered either of them. I neglected Lady Liberty as well.

    Just like everyone else, I remember the day and what I was doing leading up to the craziness that took place 11 years ago. I felt like I lost my children that I don't even have. I felt bad for everyone who had lost families in NY, Pentagon, and PA. I kept running it over in my mind what those poor innocent people must have been going through. I felt empty inside and helpless. I don't take anything for granted since that time which is why I took the time to write this. I THANK EVERYONE who makes this great nation what is today. My heart and prayers are with all who lost someone 11 years ago.

    Not sure I ever wrote this much before in this forum or ever will. It took 11 years to finally say what had been latent.
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  • 5vs1wma wrote:
    I can remember as a child (4th or 5th grade), my school planned a field trip to the twin towers (as I never called them anything else). Long and short, I couldn't go but knew I would get to go someday being that I lived 45 minutes east of the city. Like with everything else, life and time got in the way. I fell into the notion of "Ahhhh, it will always be there." Over the 21 1/2 years I did live in NY, I walked around the towers a handful of times but never entered either of them. I neglected Lady Liberty as well.

    I visited NYC for the first time in August 2001 and sort of had the same experience where I ignored the WTC thinking I would come back and go up to the observation deck the next visit. It is horrible to think that those two buildings could dissappear in a matter of hours.

    A very sad day for all of those who lost friends and family.
  • its often said that we as humans are so hurtful to one another, but in tragedies the good shines through. Sad we cant be the best in terms of human kindness and being helpful to another during the so called good times as well.

    Anyways, yes the sacrifice and bravery of the FDNY is staggering to consider. They went into the fire, up the stairs as everyone else was going down the stairs.

    I said it last year but i think 9/11 was so shocking, so HUGE that it took me an entire decade to really fully, or partly wrap my head around the enormity of it all. 11 years later, i still have a hard time grasping what transpired.

    Such a bizaare time too. Never seen anything like the aftermath of it all either. Seemed like every single sport in the world took a break for a week. And that NY fundraiser thing was on every single channel on tv, that will likely never happen again, something being on all 200 plus channels. It was like the entire world stopped for a week or so.

    As to where I was that day, i was looking on the internet prior to being driven to school, and AOL news had a bulletin that some wierd pilot crashed a plane into one of the towers. I told my mom and she looked surprised but we went on to school. I remember the principal making a school wide announcement that the towers both had been hit, and she advised us all to stay in school despite the events. I live on the west coast. In every single class that day, a tv was brought in, and we essentially watched the footage we all remember all day. It seemed like everyone in the world saw that footage for months and months. I remember pretty clearly being aware, even at 17, the immediate ramifications in terms of foreign policy this would have. And I remember all the American flags and buttons and stickers and signs that cropped up soon after. I remember how america and the world seemed to take notice of an entire people they previous hadnt noticed at all, muslims, islam, afghanistan, the taliban, bin laden.
  • i know their was that restaurant, Windows on the World, near the top of one of the towers. I wonder how many people in the towers that died that day, were visitors on the observation deck, or at the restauraunt, as opposed to workers in the various firms. I remember that rumor that some guy rode the rubble on the way to the ground and survived, but sadly i think thats just a rumor. Would have been maybe the most miraculous survival story of all time though.
  • _ wrote:
    An unforgettable day.

    My heartfelt respect and honor to all who lost their lives that day and to all first responders who continue to carry out their missions.
    _ wrote:
    One thing I have been thinking about regarding this event, though, is how there are now actually people - some of them even adults - who don't really remember this, or who have a child's memory of it. It's interesting to talk to people who were children when this happened and hear their perspectives about that day or talk to children who weren't yet born at the time and find out what their understanding of it is.
    This was brought home to me a year or so ago when I was checking out a book from the library. It had a photo of the WTC on the cover and the teenager who checked me out started talking about how she'd recently seen a TV program about 9/11. Her astonishment at all the things that occurred was a real jolt to me and made me think about the people who are younger than I am and how they perceive it. I have a better appreciation for older generations that lived through traumatic events that I can only see from the view of history.

    Yes, it's amazing to me that some people don't remember it. Seems like just yesterday. Imagine what WWII era people have been feeling like all these years when most of us don't actually remember something as horrible and ongoing as the Holocaust. It guess it's this way with a lot of things in life though.

    In related news, I just saw this headline from The Onion:
    18-Year-Old Fighting In Afghanistan Has 9/11 Explained To Him By Older Soldier

    this has been occuring to me alot lately. You have teens now, 12 years old, 13 years old, who are probably too young to even remember it happening. Its such a HUGE event its hard to fathom anyone who doesnt remember it first hand, either in person or via tv and the internet. But I guess maybe thats how our parents feel about us and JFK/MLK/RFK etc...

    As for the Onion, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 its a sad state of affairs when a satirical newspaper has the most poignant and powerful coverage of something like 9/11 but thats exactly what happened. The Onions coverage was amazing.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    this has been occuring to me alot lately. You have teens now, 12 years old, 13 years old, who are probably too young to even remember it happening. Its such a HUGE event its hard to fathom anyone who doesnt remember it first hand, either in person or via tv and the internet. But I guess maybe thats how our parents feel about us and JFK/MLK/RFK etc...

    As for the Onion, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 its a sad state of affairs when a satirical newspaper has the most poignant and powerful coverage of something like 9/11 but thats exactly what happened. The Onions coverage was amazing.
    You've been very well-spoken here in this thread. Thank you.
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