Eh, not so impressed with the setlist. All it needed was last kiss. I shouldn't complain though, it's better than not doing storytellers. You KNOW Mary Kate will get a camera shot on the broadcast....
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
what in God's name did you expect from a storytellers broadcast? I mean, seriously.
I was kind of surprised with Sleight Of Hand, Insig., & Army Reserve. More because Army Reserve is my least favorite song off of Pearl Jam, and the other two are my absolute favorites. Not that none of them are bad, they're all amazing in their own way. But, I agree with him. I expected something else...more commercial hits to appeal to whoever sees it.
(my comments about the setlist pasted from The Porch)
...unemployable? really. I'd figure that they'd be more... spread out in albums. No "no code"? No "Yield"? No "Vs"? But five songs off the newest record...
I'm very very surprised. I love the new album... but... I'd rather hear the story about Present Tense than Betterman.
Not complaining or anything. Just very curious about their selections.
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*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
what in God's name did you expect from a storytellers broadcast? I mean, seriously.
To be honest, Im a fan of the 1998-2006 PJ more then the early stuff, but I am pretty surprised that the amazingly solid majority of the songs were from Binaural and Pearl Jam. I guess I would have liked to see at least another 5 songs (I think theyve earned an hour and a half show at least) and a little more variety. This show had 0 songs from Vs., No Code, Yield or Riot Act and only one from Ten and Vitalogy. Im not complaining, I cant wait to see it, I guess I wish VH1 would have given them more time, so thats all Ill complain about.
And yeah, no offense to PJ, but the setlist seems kind of like the mentality they used when they wanted to sabatoge themselves. I mean if they want to draw some fans in to wanting to watch this program, Im not sure this was the best set. But then again, maybe playing a lot of new stuff, and doing it really well, is the best way, rather then playing the hits we all know, but what do I know.
words seem so out of place.
8.21.00 Columbus | 6.24.03 Columbus | 7.9.03 NYC | 10.2.04 Toledo | 9.11.05 Kitchener | 5.20.06 Cleveland | 8.5.07 Chicago | 5.6.10 Columbus | 5.7.10 Noblesville | 5.9.10 Cleveland | 9.3.11 East Troy | 9.4.11 East Troy | 7.19.13 Chicago | 10.11.13 Pittsburgh | 10.1.14 Cincinnati | 4.8.16 Ft. Lauderdale | 4.9.16 Miami | 8.8.18 Seattle | 8.10.18 Seattle | 9.26.21 Dana Point | 10.1.21 Dana Point | 10.2.21 Dana Point | 9.16.22 Nashville | 9.17.22 Louisville | 9.18.22 St. Louis | 9.2.23 St. Paul | 9.15.23 Ft. Worth 6.26.11 Detroit (EdVed) | 9.23.17 Louisville (EdVed) | 9.25.21 Dana Point (EdVed) | 10.01.22 Dana Point (EdVed) | 2.6.22 Newark (EdVed)
My buddy just called..... conversation was short... what they played and details (in no particular order)
Betterman (opened), Sleight of Hand, Army Res, Unemployable, Gone, Insig, Life Wasted, Alive, WWS and maybe one or 2 more songs
Ed gave analysis a few tracks.... was in typical political Ed mode....
At the end about 6-7 questions from the crowd.....
250-300 in attendance... Venue was hotter than hell inside.....
and he sat a few feet away from Mary Kate Olsen..... serious
All Ed songs, huh?... Would have loved to hear Immortality... I thought they would play one of Stone and Jeff's songs. It'd be cool to hear the story behind Low Light, or Fatal or something...
I said I was 'kinda disappointed.' I was bummed there was no vs., no code, or yeild (which seems to be agreed on at the board). I mean geez, how many people are going to be pumped about pj's catalogue after hearing 'sleight of hand'
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I said I was 'kinda disappointed.' I was bummed there was no vs., no code, or yeild (which seems to be agreed on at the board). I mean geez, how many people are going to be pumped about pj's catalogue after hearing 'sleight of hand'
There's nothing wrong with "Slieght of Hand."
It's not like this is going to follow TRL. It will be on VH1 at what? 8 on a Wednesday night? And it'll air once or twice, and after it will be run on VH1 classic non-stop for the next 2 months. Hope y'all have a VCR or digital cable.
It's not like this is going to follow TRL. It will be on VH1 at what? 8 on a Wednesday night? And it'll air once or twice, and after it will be run on VH1 classic non-stop for the next 2 months. Hope y'all have a VCR or digital cable.
Imo, sleight of hand is one of the most boring songs in the pj catalogue. Granted my opinion means nothing, I think they could have really kept the energy going with something off of the first five albums. Slieght of Hand always seems like it takes people out of the concert.
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Imo, sleight of hand is one of the most boring songs in the pj catalogue. Granted my opinion means nothing, I think they could have really kept the energy going with something off of the first five albums. Slieght of Hand always seems like it takes people out of the concert.
I totally agree....one of my least enjoyed songs of the PJ catalogue.
I think Low Light or Come Back over Betterman would have been awesome. Oh well, still a great setlist.
I guess that means that Come Back won't be a single after all. They probably would have played it if they were thinking it had a shot at being one.
It's not like this is going to follow TRL. It will be on VH1 at what? 8 on a Wednesday night? And it'll air once or twice, and after it will be run on VH1 classic non-stop for the next 2 months. Hope y'all have a VCR or digital cable.
Or if you're Canadian like me...have some kind soul who can tape it for u. Any idea when its gonna air??
"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
I totally agree....one of my least enjoyed songs of the PJ catalogue.
I think Low Light or Come Back over Betterman would have been awesome. Oh well, still a great setlist.
I guess that means that Come Back won't be a single after all. They probably would have played it if they were thinking it had a shot at being one.
Gotta agree with this too..Sleight of Hand is notorius for breaking momentum at concerts, it is a boring story that has been told a 1,000 times by Pearl Jam and every other band...and the music and melody areforgettable.
How about Tremor Christ? Nothing as it seems? Immortality? Grievance? Rival? All or None? I Got Id? These songs all are original and beautiful...Nothingman? Man of the Hour?
I said I was 'kinda disappointed.' I was bummed there was no vs., no code, or yeild (which seems to be agreed on at the board). I mean geez, how many people are going to be pumped about pj's catalogue after hearing 'sleight of hand'
I will
besides, I kind of doubt sleight of hand even makes the final broadcast. so no worries. your ears won't be sullied.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
it is a boring story that has been told a 1,000 times by Pearl Jam and every other band...
what in God's name are you talking about here?
ps ... by PJ standards, half the songs you mentioned are sub-par. Tremor Christ? Rival? NAIS? ... I mean, it's all relative. they are good songs. but in the bottom portion of the PJ catalogue for me.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
(my comments about the setlist pasted from The Porch)
...unemployable? really. I'd figure that they'd be more... spread out in albums. No "no code"? No "Yield"? No "Vs"? But five songs off the newest record...
I'm very very surprised. I love the new album... but... I'd rather hear the story about Present Tense than Betterman.
Not complaining or anything. Just very curious about their selections.
I wonder if this is their way of doing it, but doing it on their terms, rather than what others (or Vh1!) thought they should do - their new music is probably what they're most excited about right now....
I just hope I'll get to see the whole thing somehow, and not edited bits only on vh1.
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R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
I wonder if this is their way of doing it, but doing it on their terms, rather than what others (or Vh1!) thought they should do - their new music is probably what they're most excited about right now....
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I'm kind of thinking the same thing. If they played too many hits ... thrown Jeremy and Black and Small Town in there, VH1 could have aired an all hits show, left out the new material. I'm thinking by not giving them enough hits to air a hits-only show, it forces vh1 to air more of the songs PJ wants them to air.
just a thought. who knows really?
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I'm kind of thinking the same thing. If they played too many hits ... thrown Jeremy and Black and Small Town in there, VH1 could have aired an all hits show, left out the new material. I'm thinking by not giving them enough hits to air a hits-only show, it forces vh1 to air more of the songs PJ wants them to air.
just a thought. who knows really?
Still, they could have played more non-hits from other albums.
ps ... by PJ standards, half the songs you mentioned are sub-par. Tremor Christ? Rival? NAIS? ... I mean, it's all relative. they are good songs. but in the bottom portion of the PJ catalogue for me.
"He waves good-bye..to himself....I will see you on the other side..."
"He waves good-bye..to himself....I will see you on the other side..."
C'mon, cliche alt-rock.
Look, I think Slieght is a good song, but it very downbeat, and not one of PJ's greatest. And not being one of PJs best songs makes about... um... 99% better than most everything else.
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-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
what in God's name did you expect from a storytellers broadcast? I mean, seriously.
for the least they could possibly do
I was kind of surprised with Sleight Of Hand, Insig., & Army Reserve. More because Army Reserve is my least favorite song off of Pearl Jam, and the other two are my absolute favorites. Not that none of them are bad, they're all amazing in their own way. But, I agree with him. I expected something else...more commercial hits to appeal to whoever sees it.
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...unemployable? really. I'd figure that they'd be more... spread out in albums. No "no code"? No "Yield"? No "Vs"? But five songs off the newest record...
I'm very very surprised. I love the new album... but... I'd rather hear the story about Present Tense than Betterman.
Not complaining or anything. Just very curious about their selections.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
To be honest, Im a fan of the 1998-2006 PJ more then the early stuff, but I am pretty surprised that the amazingly solid majority of the songs were from Binaural and Pearl Jam. I guess I would have liked to see at least another 5 songs (I think theyve earned an hour and a half show at least) and a little more variety. This show had 0 songs from Vs., No Code, Yield or Riot Act and only one from Ten and Vitalogy. Im not complaining, I cant wait to see it, I guess I wish VH1 would have given them more time, so thats all Ill complain about.
And yeah, no offense to PJ, but the setlist seems kind of like the mentality they used when they wanted to sabatoge themselves. I mean if they want to draw some fans in to wanting to watch this program, Im not sure this was the best set. But then again, maybe playing a lot of new stuff, and doing it really well, is the best way, rather then playing the hits we all know, but what do I know.
8.21.00 Columbus | 6.24.03 Columbus | 7.9.03 NYC | 10.2.04 Toledo | 9.11.05 Kitchener | 5.20.06 Cleveland | 8.5.07 Chicago | 5.6.10 Columbus | 5.7.10 Noblesville | 5.9.10 Cleveland | 9.3.11 East Troy | 9.4.11 East Troy | 7.19.13 Chicago | 10.11.13 Pittsburgh | 10.1.14 Cincinnati | 4.8.16 Ft. Lauderdale | 4.9.16 Miami | 8.8.18 Seattle | 8.10.18 Seattle | 9.26.21 Dana Point | 10.1.21 Dana Point | 10.2.21 Dana Point | 9.16.22 Nashville | 9.17.22 Louisville | 9.18.22 St. Louis | 9.2.23 St. Paul | 9.15.23 Ft. Worth
6.26.11 Detroit (EdVed) | 9.23.17 Louisville (EdVed) | 9.25.21 Dana Point (EdVed) | 10.01.22 Dana Point (EdVed) | 2.6.22 Newark (EdVed)
All Ed songs, huh?... Would have loved to hear Immortality... I thought they would play one of Stone and Jeff's songs. It'd be cool to hear the story behind Low Light, or Fatal or something...
When does it air? I can't wait!
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
There's nothing wrong with "Slieght of Hand."
It's not like this is going to follow TRL. It will be on VH1 at what? 8 on a Wednesday night? And it'll air once or twice, and after it will be run on VH1 classic non-stop for the next 2 months. Hope y'all have a VCR or digital cable.
Imo, sleight of hand is one of the most boring songs in the pj catalogue. Granted my opinion means nothing, I think they could have really kept the energy going with something off of the first five albums. Slieght of Hand always seems like it takes people out of the concert.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I totally agree....one of my least enjoyed songs of the PJ catalogue.
I think Low Light or Come Back over Betterman would have been awesome. Oh well, still a great setlist.
I guess that means that Come Back won't be a single after all. They probably would have played it if they were thinking it had a shot at being one.
Or if you're Canadian like me...have some kind soul who can tape it for u. Any idea when its gonna air??
what?!? you people are nuts. there has never been a better piece of poetry than sleight of hand. you guys suck for thinking otherwise.
for the least they could possibly do
Gotta agree with this too..Sleight of Hand is notorius for breaking momentum at concerts, it is a boring story that has been told a 1,000 times by Pearl Jam and every other band...and the music and melody areforgettable.
How about Tremor Christ? Nothing as it seems? Immortality? Grievance? Rival? All or None? I Got Id? These songs all are original and beautiful...Nothingman? Man of the Hour?
You get the picture...
I will
besides, I kind of doubt sleight of hand even makes the final broadcast. so no worries. your ears won't be sullied.
for the least they could possibly do
what in God's name are you talking about here?
ps ... by PJ standards, half the songs you mentioned are sub-par. Tremor Christ? Rival? NAIS? ... I mean, it's all relative. they are good songs. but in the bottom portion of the PJ catalogue for me.
for the least they could possibly do
similarly marker in the sand for me was slow to grow, but the lyrics make the song amazing.
...I'd rather hear MITS than Unemployable though, if they were choosing mostly from the latest album.
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
I agree re: MITS. I'm guessing Unemployable had a better story behind it, maybe.
for the least they could possibly do
I wonder if this is their way of doing it, but doing it on their terms, rather than what others (or Vh1!) thought they should do - their new music is probably what they're most excited about right now....
I just hope I'll get to see the whole thing somehow, and not edited bits only on vh1.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
I'm kind of thinking the same thing. If they played too many hits ... thrown Jeremy and Black and Small Town in there, VH1 could have aired an all hits show, left out the new material. I'm thinking by not giving them enough hits to air a hits-only show, it forces vh1 to air more of the songs PJ wants them to air.
just a thought. who knows really?
for the least they could possibly do
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Still, they could have played more non-hits from other albums.
"He waves good-bye..to himself....I will see you on the other side..."
C'mon, cliche alt-rock.
apparently, 07162056 is THE date...
I'm sure some kind soul will post it here about 23 seconds after it airs...
Sleight o' Hand or no... Still better than the Counting Crows Storyteller hour.
Look, I think Slieght is a good song, but it very downbeat, and not one of PJ's greatest. And not being one of PJs best songs makes about... um... 99% better than most everything else.
I saw the Crows open for the Who. Their performance was not of high quality.