The I built it is based in love, pride, sweat, family, life.
Blaming anyone other than ourselves is not in our nature, we take responsibility,
we struggle, we succeed.
Oh give me a freaking break.
No, it's not,
It's based on a republican party that's devoid of ideas and needs to resort to lies about the president, deflecting their own inability to do anything at all and focusing on pointless wedge issues like my marriage and your uterus.
Trying to tell me anything else is a lie. And you know it. And so does everyone else here.
I'm looking for an environment that appreciates business and
understands when business is happy everyone is happy.
Just like Mama...
lol...why would it matter if I owned a business...? I have eyes and ears....I see and hear whining....
when will the "I built it" folks quite blaming gov't for there problems...?
This comment lacks the understanding to grasp what people experience
as business owners.
The I built it is based in love, pride, sweat, family, life.
Blaming anyone other than ourselves is not in our nature, we take responsibility,
we struggle, we succeed.
When government can not appreciate the importance of
freedom, individuality, personal achievement that goes hand in hand with
business it can not provide an environment where it flourishes.
We need someone who gets business and brings an environment back for hiring,
growth and success this in turn brings more work back for the small business
and the micro business, which in turns helps the economy and helps you,
I assume.
what does this even mean...?
you talk of feelings...not business....
you sound like you want special treatment or some sort of validation from the gov't....that's silly...I thought business was in business to make money....
"We need someone who gets business and brings an environment back for hiring,
growth and success"...so you expect the gov't to take care of you and your business....? I'm sorry, but that's wrongheaded....
No he did not lie on any of the points and I have posted confirming
articles of a non biased source.
Funny though no one is approaching the above bolded red statement...
I get it, it is disappointing.
I too wish our President had done more.
I too want the economy, the unemployment rate to be better,
much better. I too find the deficit growth to be disturbing.
I think there is one way that is better than the current way,
it is based in common sense not a color or a party....
We need business to grow, to grow it needs to be relatively sure of success,
we know Romney knows what these factors are, we know he knows how to grow a business.
When business is happy everyone is happy including all of us.
Oh sweet jesus...there is so much here...no wonder you think Ryan was telling the "truth, but incomplete"....
only telling part of the truth is a lie....it's called lying by omission....
The I built it is based in love, pride, sweat, family, life.
Blaming anyone other than ourselves is not in our nature, we take responsibility,
we struggle, we succeed.
Oh give me a freaking break.
No, it's not,
It's based on a republican party that's devoid of ideas and needs to resort to lies about the president, deflecting their own inability to do anything at all and focusing on pointless wedge issues like my marriage and your uterus.
Trying to tell me anything else is a lie. And you know it. And so does everyone else here.
+100
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."
Ryan As Chairman of the Budget Committee uses the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.
Ryan's plan to remake Medicare would shift future retirees into a system in which they would get a fixed payment to shop for coverage among private insurance plans.
People plan their own retirement and health needs ...
Hospital Administrator: "No, I'm sorry, the total cost of your procedure is $120,000 and that's before we assign you a room and see what your recovery will be like. The $120,000 is just for the surgery. The recovery can require at least 5 nights in the hospital."
Elderly Hospital Patient: "But I thought my $6,000 voucher covered me. That's what Paul Ryan said. And that's why I voted for him and Willard."
Hospital Administrator: "Well, we'll take your $6,000 voucher and set you up on the payment plan. Do you own a home you can put up for collateral? Do you have any adult children that can co-sign and assume payments if you're unable to? What's your net worth? Do you have a car or other possession you could sell to raise capital?"
Elderly Hospital Patient: "Eh, car? I took the bus to get here. And I live in the elderly housing in my town because I don't have any children and I live on my deceased husband's pension and social security benefit. $120,000? I don't have that kind of money."
Hospital Administrator: "Please take a seat in the emergency room and wait to be called. Next."
And yea, when are the "we built it" crowd going to stop whining and just go out there and build it already. Stop waiting for the government. And all those republican governors? What the hell have they been doing for the past three years? And the republican Congress? "we're going to focus on job creation like a laser beam." Yea, right. And how many bills has Obama vetoed and what does that tell you? And Willard Mitt Romney built it all himself, right? Never used taxpayer or government money to build Bain, right? Ever hear of CALPERS? How much of Bain's capital was Willard Mitt Romney'$ own? And the olympics? It'd be nice to know exactly what transpired but, hmmm, the records have all disappeared. Kind of like all the records of when he was governor of Massachusetts. Took a page right out of the Bush's playbook. Back to the 1920's we go.
Rand Paul gave a good speech, some here speak badly of him, I thought he seemed
compromising, very bright. Might be our future?
McCain's remarks are here too as he was the pro military speech.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258 this shows where the money goes
personally I'm good with the ratios...
each needs to be cut equally and getting debt down will mean we have less interest to pay
and maybe we can have a nest egg
Everyone must sacrifice
but having one half of Americans on some sort of government aid is ridiculous,
be different if we were not in debt, somethings got to give.
If your family was living on credit cards would you invite your long lost uncle to stay
permanently? no common sense says no, credit cards run out.
Rand Paul gave a good speech, some here speak badly of him, I thought he seemed
compromising, very bright. Might be our future?
McCain's remarks are here too as he was the pro military speech.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258 this shows where the money goes
personally I'm good with the ratios...
each needs to be cut equally and getting debt down will mean we have less interest to pay
and maybe we can have a nest egg
Everyone must sacrifice
but having one half of Americans on some sort of government aid is ridiculous,
be different if we were not in debt, somethings got to give.
If your family was living on credit cards would you invite your long lost uncle to stay
permanently? no common sense says no, credit cards run out.
So you're fine with that defense budget? Doesn't seem excessive to you? Not everyone is sacraficing. That's the problem. The people that can't affort to sacrafice are sacraficing the most.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
The I built it is based in love, pride, sweat, family, life.
Blaming anyone other than ourselves is not in our nature, we take responsibility,
we struggle, we succeed.
Oh give me a freaking break.
No, it's not,
It's based on a republican party that's devoid of ideas and needs to resort to lies about the president, deflecting their own inability to do anything at all and focusing on pointless wedge issues like my marriage and your uterus.
Trying to tell me anything else is a lie. And you know it. And so does everyone else here.
No you are blue very very blue that is not an assumption so blue you are biased blue
and everyone sees this.
The I built it for me and many are just as I said and probably
would be for you too if a Democrat had said it.
Rand Paul gave a good speech, some here speak badly of him, I thought he seemed
compromising, very bright. Might be our future?
McCain's remarks are here too as he was the pro military speech.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258 this shows where the money goes
personally I'm good with the ratios...
each needs to be cut equally and getting debt down will mean we have less interest to pay
and maybe we can have a nest egg
Everyone must sacrifice
but having one half of Americans on some sort of government aid is ridiculous,
be different if we were not in debt, somethings got to give.
If your family was living on credit cards would you invite your long lost uncle to stay
permanently? no common sense says no, credit cards run out.
So you're fine with that defense budget? Doesn't seem excessive to you? Not everyone is sacraficing. That's the problem. The people that can't affort to sacrafice are sacraficing the most.
I'm fine with it being one 5th as food stamps etc are but across the board everything
must get equally cut.
RYAN: "And the biggest, coldest power play of all in Obamacare came at the expense of the elderly. ... So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama."
Ryan As Chairman of the Budget Committee uses the money for deficit reduction. And the cuts do not affect Medicare recipients directly, but rather reduce payments to hospitals, health insurance plans and other service providers.
Ryan's plan to remake Medicare would shift future retirees into a system in which they would get a fixed payment to shop for coverage among private insurance plans.
People plan their own retirement and health needs ...
Hospital Administrator: "No, I'm sorry, the total cost of your procedure is $120,000 and that's before we assign you a room and see what your recovery will be like. The $120,000 is just for the surgery. The recovery can require at least 5 nights in the hospital."
Elderly Hospital Patient: "But I thought my $6,000 voucher covered me. That's what Paul Ryan said. And that's why I voted for him and Willard."
Hospital Administrator: "Well, we'll take your $6,000 voucher and set you up on the payment plan. Do you own a home you can put up for collateral? Do you have any adult children that can co-sign and assume payments if you're unable to? What's your net worth? Do you have a car or other possession you could sell to raise capital?"
Elderly Hospital Patient: "Eh, car? I took the bus to get here. And I live in the elderly housing in my town because I don't have any children and I live on my deceased husband's pension and social security benefit. $120,000? I don't have that kind of money."
Hospital Administrator: "Please take a seat in the emergency room and wait to be called. Next."
And yea, when are the "we built it" crowd going to stop whining and just go out there and build it already. Stop waiting for the government. And all those republican governors? What the hell have they been doing for the past three years? And the republican Congress? "we're going to focus on job creation like a laser beam." Yea, right. And how many bills has Obama vetoed and what does that tell you? And Willard Mitt Romney built it all himself, right? Never used taxpayer or government money to build Bain, right? Ever hear of CALPERS? How much of Bain's capital was Willard Mitt Romney'$ own? And the olympics? It'd be nice to know exactly what transpired but, hmmm, the records have all disappeared. Kind of like all the records of when he was governor of Massachusetts. Took a page right out of the Bush's playbook. Back to the 1920's we go.
would you grow your small business?
buy new machinery now?
could you even get a loan?
Many of our Republican Governors have reduced unemployment ... google away.
You are talking to the wrong person on longevity, the racket called insurance, the other racket
called hospitals. I am very biased on these three components to this subject.
I will only say my generation, the next to hit the rolls, better be prepared
cause the meal ticket is over ...
it has to be or our economy could fail.
It has to be or we ruin our children's futures. How many trillion has the Obama
administration spent in four years :wtf:
I would say for me in your scenario, skip the surgery. I would say for others,
do as they do now, default on a ridiculously overpriced bill. Let the hospital come to me
and negotiate a price as they do for the damn insurance companies, a fraction
of what they bill a real life person for. No house needed
I'm fine with it being one 5th as food stamps etc are but across the board everything
must get equally cut.
I disagree.
I respect that
Our military is very important to me, the people in the military. As far as our policy
and going to war not so much ... too much war.
Our role in the world I would like to see changed but that may never happen,
and actually the food stamps etc budget is a fraction more, a lot of fraud and waste
there too.
No he did not lie on any of the points and I have posted confirming
articles of a non biased source.
Funny though no one is approaching the above bolded red statement...
I get it, it is disappointing.
I too wish our President had done more.
I too want the economy, the unemployment rate to be better,
much better. I too find the deficit growth to be disturbing.
I think there is one way that is better than the current way,
it is based in common sense not a color or a party....
We need business to grow, to grow it needs to be relatively sure of success,
we know Romney knows what these factors are, we know he knows how to grow a business.
When business is happy everyone is happy including all of us.
Oh sweet jesus...there is so much here...no wonder you think Ryan was telling the "truth, but incomplete"....
only telling part of the truth is a lie....it's called lying by omission....
true but incomplete were not my words ... that was CNN
no spinning the truth is what politicians do ... ever hear of cigar smokin Clinton ?
So you want to decrease the 13% (if that is the actual number) of the budget that goes toward:
■Safety net programs: About 13 percent of the federal budget in 2011, or $466 billion, went to support programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship. Spending on safety programs declined in both nominal and real terms between 2010 and 2011 as the economy continued to improve and initiatives funded by the 2009 Recovery Act began to expire.
These programs include: the refundable portion of the earned-income and child tax credits, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including food stamps, school meals, low-income housing assistance, child-care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.
Such programs keep millions of people out of poverty each year. A Center analysis shows that government safety net programs kept some 25 million people out of poverty in 2010. Without any government income assistance, either from safety net programs or other income supports like Social Security, the poverty rate would have been nearly double in 2010 (28.6 rather than 15.5 percent).
so we can cut taxes on the few US citizens who represent the wealthiest in the world
and also build more bombs to drop on brown people.
This 'budget' (by either side), is in no way a serious attempt at fiscal responsibility. If you think otherwise, you have been fooled.
I'm fine with it being one 5th as food stamps etc are but across the board everything
must get equally cut.
I disagree.
I respect that
Our military is very important to me, the people in the military. As far as our policy
and going to war not so much ... too much war.
Our role in the world I would like to see changed but that may never happen,
and actually the food stamps etc budget is a fraction more, a lot of fraud and waste
there too.
You know what my problems is, we call it a defense budget, but it's much more of an offense budget, we could defend ourselves for a lot less if that was all we were interested in doing.
I'm looking for an environment that appreciates business and
understands when business is happy everyone is happy.
Just like Mama...
I own a business. And since I'm also not a total moron, I know that you can lower my taxes through the floor and give me credit for building the roads and bridges and the power lines all you want...
But unless there is a strong middle class with disposable income to buy the products I sell, I'm fucked. And so is America.
I wish republicans were smart enough to see that. Alas.. They generally are not.
Again Republicans are smart enough to see all business is connected.
By lowering taxes, reducing regulations, ridding penalties for hiring, this will stimulate business
and put people back to work. As business profit they can afford to advertise,
have seminars, hold conventions buy more print as in my case.
When people are back to work my Suta and Futa rate drops, I can afford to hire,
I can buy a new piece of finishing equipment, people spend money again
and my point of purchase sales for stores and restaurants go up.
Our military is very important to me, the people in the military. As far as our policy
and going to war not so much ... too much war.
Our role in the world I would like to see changed but that may never happen,
and actually the food stamps etc budget is a fraction more, a lot of fraud and waste
there too.
You know what my problems is, we call it a defense budget, but it's much more of an offense budget, we could defend ourselves for a lot less if that was all we were interested in doing.
I agree ... I think the idea though or should I say ideal is to defend those who can't.
So you want to decrease the 13% (if that is the actual number) of the budget that goes toward:
■Safety net programs: About 13 percent of the federal budget in 2011, or $466 billion, went to support programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship. Spending on safety programs declined in both nominal and real terms between 2010 and 2011 as the economy continued to improve and initiatives funded by the 2009 Recovery Act began to expire.
These programs include: the refundable portion of the earned-income and child tax credits, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including food stamps, school meals, low-income housing assistance, child-care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.
Such programs keep millions of people out of poverty each year. A Center analysis shows that government safety net programs kept some 25 million people out of poverty in 2010. Without any government income assistance, either from safety net programs or other income supports like Social Security, the poverty rate would have been nearly double in 2010 (28.6 rather than 15.5 percent).
so we can cut taxes on the few US citizens who represent the wealthiest in the world
and also build more bombs to drop on brown people.
This 'budget' (by either side), is in no way a serious attempt at fiscal responsibility. If you think otherwise, you have been fooled.
Across the board equal cuts ... compromise
There will always be the rich, some have worked very very hard, some have not.
There will always be the poor some through no fault of their own,
some working the system. Name of the game is now take take take.
As a business owner I know how important the rich are to me,
how my life depends on them.
As a person I know how important I am to the poor and I give
but to have one half of Americans on aid AND encouraging more
saying it is there for the taking :wtf: No its not, it is funny money! :fp:
I would rather be dependent on free enterprise than my government.
I would rather work hard than be taken care of
I would rather be a cow than a sheep ...
cows make a valuable sustaining product
sheep lay around and shed and finally get eaten or worse.
People want to work, let's encourage that not more aid, they too want to be cows not sheep.
By lowering taxes, reducing regulations, ridding penalties for hiring, this will stimulate business
and put people back to work. As business profit they can afford to advertise,
have seminars, hold conventions buy more print as in my case.
I almost burst out laughing at this. Because it's insipid.
The Republican Party has been banging that "lower taxes on businesses to make more people go shopping" head-in-ass argument for years. It makes no sense and has been proven to NOT WORK. At all.
You want to reduce regulations? Really? Tell us... what "regulations" need to be reduced to make people spend their money again?
And finally... Print Advertising is dead. And pointless. And most of all... a tiny little drop in the bucket. But most of all... Print advertising to WHOM? The middle class has no money to buy things. You can advertise to them all you want. The people have no disposable income because the cost of living has risen and their wages haven't, they're shouldering the tax burden of two wars all on their own... the top 1% had their taxes lowered and all they did with that money was hide it in Swiss Bank Accounts.
When people are back to work my Suta and Futa rate drops, I can afford to hire,
I can buy a new piece of finishing equipment, people spend money again
and my point of purchase sales for stores and restaurants go up.
Round and round we grow each other.
Well what your proposing is more like "round and round we circle the toilet bowl until all the money is depleted from the middle class and the mega-rich have a circle-jerk.
By lowering taxes, reducing regulations, ridding penalties for hiring, this will stimulate business
and put people back to work. As business profit they can afford to advertise,
have seminars, hold conventions buy more print as in my case.
I almost burst out laughing at this. Because it's insipid.
The Republican Party has been banging that "lower taxes on businesses to make more people go shopping" head-in-ass argument for years. It makes no sense and has been proven to NOT WORK. At all.
You want to reduce regulations? Really? Tell us... what "regulations" need to be reduced to make people spend their money again?
And finally... Print Advertising is dead. And pointless. And most of all... a tiny little drop in the bucket. But most of all... Print advertising to WHOM? The middle class has no money to buy things. You can advertise to them all you want. The people have no disposable income because the cost of living has risen and their wages haven't, they're shouldering the tax burden of two wars all on their own... the top 1% had their taxes lowered and all they did with that money was hide it in Swiss Bank Accounts.
When people are back to work my Suta and Futa rate drops, I can afford to hire,
I can buy a new piece of finishing equipment, people spend money again
and my point of purchase sales for stores and restaurants go up.
Round and round we grow each other.
Well what your proposing is more like "round and round we circle the toilet bowl until all the money is depleted from the middle class and the mega-rich have a circle-jerk.
Well lets hope it works cause its obvious what this adminstration is doing is not working
and again get a big picture it is not shopping :fp:
We do all aspects of printing for all types of companies from the mega
to the single internet business owner.
Perhaps print advertising is dead for porn but we do a lot of "propaganda type"
business materials for business meetings, promotions, sales kits etc.
Perhaps if more of the middle class gets back to work they can afford to buy more.
Novel idea .
As far as regulations I learned about the H.R.4078 when researching some other bills
it is made up of 6 bills actually geared to removing red tape
that hinder small business from hiring and growing. But I would love to learn much more
got any government regulations to share?
Well what your proposing is more like "round and round we circle the toilet bowl until all the money is depleted from the middle class and the mega-rich have a circle-jerk.
nice picture there
I prefer round and round the businesses grow to employ more people and get them off
of aid
We do all aspects of printing for all types of companies from the mega
to the single internet business owner.
Perhaps print advertising is dead for porn but we do a lot of "propaganda type"
business materials for business meetings, promotions, sales kits etc.
So then how come every day a new magazine goes belly up and the only ones making a living are the ones with websites?
Perhaps if more of the middle class gets back to work they can afford to buy more.
Novel idea .
Exactly my point. And how does giving Mitt Romney a big tax cut get people back to work?
But I would love to learn much more
got any government regulations to share?
Well, I'm kinda glad that the bottled drinks I drink don't have cow feces in it, usually. Thank the FDA for that.
ok so we go from a budget SURPLUS when Bush came into office and now 4 years into Obama he's derided in Ryans speech for adding 5 trillion to the debt. which means a republican added 10 TRILLION in less than 8 years.
I think for better success tonight with "his" speech they should bring out a cardboard cutout of Romney to give the speech, its warmer than the real thing!!
I'm wondering just how long it took the country to emerge from The Depression?? HAve qwe become such a gotta have it now society that we cant see that to recoup any semblence of what we had before the econ tanked is going to take a long time?
While it may not be the growth everyone hoped/s for , its still growing , just very slowly.
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ok so we go from a budget SURPLUS when Bush came into office and now 4 years into Obama he's derided in Ryans speech for adding 5 trillion to the debt. which means a republican added 10 TRILLION in less than 8 years.
.
WOW talking about facts here - there is a difference between the BUDGET and the DEBT - fact is the debt has gone up more under Obama then 8 years prior under Bush.
Well what your proposing is more like "round and round we circle the toilet bowl until all the money is depleted from the middle class and the mega-rich have a circle-jerk.
nice picture there
I prefer round and round the businesses grow to employ more people and get them off
of aid
So would these people that we're getting off of aid and employing, would they have to work one day a week for free? Would they be required to forfeit one fifth of their salaries (in addition to the typical taxes, etc)? Or is that only if they go into a helping profession?
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
We do all aspects of printing for all types of companies from the mega
to the single internet business owner.
Perhaps print advertising is dead for porn but we do a lot of "propaganda type"
business materials for business meetings, promotions, sales kits etc.
So then how come every day a new magazine goes belly up and the only ones making a living are the ones with websites?
Perhaps if more of the middle class gets back to work they can afford to buy more.
Novel idea .
Exactly my point. And how does giving Mitt Romney a big tax cut get people back to work?
But I would love to learn much more
got any government regulations to share?
Well, I'm kinda glad that the bottled drinks I drink don't have cow feces in it, usually. Thank the FDA for that.
Oh man don't mention magazines they have been going down for 20 years
we've been burned more than once for big bucks when they did.
Everyone thinks they can be the next best with the greatest ideas...
I cringe when I see magazine work coming, which would be rare now.
Though we have had some decent long standings like Veranda and the people involved...
they stole some of my best employees
Think outside this box for our printing business and what we provide,
again internal advertising type promotional work like sales kits,
brochures, tri-folds and the like for seminars, conventions , point of purchase.
How does it help me, the middle class and micro business owner,
when a big business gets a tax break?
Lets see ... how does it hurt me when they don't...
like lately laying off, afraid to invest and grow
we need a business friendly environment to get people back to work,
then the middle class is better off, small business and micro business is better off.
Trickle down.
Everything revolves around business as it should...
unless you'd rather it revolved around government taking care of everyone.
I vote for freedom and free enterprise and building my own.
Yes some regulations are necessary for safety but if you research that bill of six
you'll see the government has its fingers in pies so much so it's keeping them from baking.
Comments
Oh give me a freaking break.
No, it's not,
It's based on a republican party that's devoid of ideas and needs to resort to lies about the president, deflecting their own inability to do anything at all and focusing on pointless wedge issues like my marriage and your uterus.
Trying to tell me anything else is a lie. And you know it. And so does everyone else here.
what does this even mean...?
you talk of feelings...not business....
you sound like you want special treatment or some sort of validation from the gov't....that's silly...I thought business was in business to make money....
"We need someone who gets business and brings an environment back for hiring,
growth and success"...so you expect the gov't to take care of you and your business....? I'm sorry, but that's wrongheaded....
Oh sweet jesus...there is so much here...no wonder you think Ryan was telling the "truth, but incomplete"....
only telling part of the truth is a lie....it's called lying by omission....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Elderly Hospital Patient: "Eh, whats that? $6,000 won't cover the cost?"
Hospital Administrator: "No, I'm sorry, the total cost of your procedure is $120,000 and that's before we assign you a room and see what your recovery will be like. The $120,000 is just for the surgery. The recovery can require at least 5 nights in the hospital."
Elderly Hospital Patient: "But I thought my $6,000 voucher covered me. That's what Paul Ryan said. And that's why I voted for him and Willard."
Hospital Administrator: "Well, we'll take your $6,000 voucher and set you up on the payment plan. Do you own a home you can put up for collateral? Do you have any adult children that can co-sign and assume payments if you're unable to? What's your net worth? Do you have a car or other possession you could sell to raise capital?"
Elderly Hospital Patient: "Eh, car? I took the bus to get here. And I live in the elderly housing in my town because I don't have any children and I live on my deceased husband's pension and social security benefit. $120,000? I don't have that kind of money."
Hospital Administrator: "Please take a seat in the emergency room and wait to be called. Next."
And yea, when are the "we built it" crowd going to stop whining and just go out there and build it already. Stop waiting for the government. And all those republican governors? What the hell have they been doing for the past three years? And the republican Congress? "we're going to focus on job creation like a laser beam." Yea, right. And how many bills has Obama vetoed and what does that tell you? And Willard Mitt Romney built it all himself, right? Never used taxpayer or government money to build Bain, right? Ever hear of CALPERS? How much of Bain's capital was Willard Mitt Romney'$ own? And the olympics? It'd be nice to know exactly what transpired but, hmmm, the records have all disappeared. Kind of like all the records of when he was governor of Massachusetts. Took a page right out of the Bush's playbook. Back to the 1920's we go.
Peace.
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Rand Paul gave a good speech, some here speak badly of him, I thought he seemed
compromising, very bright. Might be our future?
McCain's remarks are here too as he was the pro military speech.
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=1258 this shows where the money goes
personally I'm good with the ratios...
each needs to be cut equally and getting debt down will mean we have less interest to pay
and maybe we can have a nest egg
Everyone must sacrifice
but having one half of Americans on some sort of government aid is ridiculous,
be different if we were not in debt, somethings got to give.
If your family was living on credit cards would you invite your long lost uncle to stay
permanently? no common sense says no, credit cards run out.
So you're fine with that defense budget? Doesn't seem excessive to you? Not everyone is sacraficing. That's the problem. The people that can't affort to sacrafice are sacraficing the most.
and everyone sees this.
The I built it for me and many are just as I said and probably
would be for you too if a Democrat had said it.
must get equally cut.
I disagree.
Would you start a business now? Would you take on a business loan?
could you even get one?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/ ... 3G20120502
would you grow your small business?
buy new machinery now?
could you even get a loan?
Many of our Republican Governors have reduced unemployment ... google away.
You are talking to the wrong person on longevity, the racket called insurance, the other racket
called hospitals. I am very biased on these three components to this subject.
I will only say my generation, the next to hit the rolls, better be prepared
cause the meal ticket is over ...
it has to be or our economy could fail.
It has to be or we ruin our children's futures. How many trillion has the Obama
administration spent in four years :wtf:
I would say for me in your scenario, skip the surgery. I would say for others,
do as they do now, default on a ridiculously overpriced bill. Let the hospital come to me
and negotiate a price as they do for the damn insurance companies, a fraction
of what they bill a real life person for. No house needed
Our military is very important to me, the people in the military. As far as our policy
and going to war not so much ... too much war.
Our role in the world I would like to see changed but that may never happen,
and actually the food stamps etc budget is a fraction more, a lot of fraud and waste
there too.
no spinning the truth is what politicians do ... ever hear of cigar smokin Clinton ?
so we can cut taxes on the few US citizens who represent the wealthiest in the world
and also build more bombs to drop on brown people.
This 'budget' (by either side), is in no way a serious attempt at fiscal responsibility. If you think otherwise, you have been fooled.
You know what my problems is, we call it a defense budget, but it's much more of an offense budget, we could defend ourselves for a lot less if that was all we were interested in doing.
By lowering taxes, reducing regulations, ridding penalties for hiring, this will stimulate business
and put people back to work. As business profit they can afford to advertise,
have seminars, hold conventions buy more print as in my case.
When people are back to work my Suta and Futa rate drops, I can afford to hire,
I can buy a new piece of finishing equipment, people spend money again
and my point of purchase sales for stores and restaurants go up.
Round and round we grow each other.
or like Israel?
Across the board equal cuts ... compromise
There will always be the rich, some have worked very very hard, some have not.
There will always be the poor some through no fault of their own,
some working the system. Name of the game is now take take take.
As a business owner I know how important the rich are to me,
how my life depends on them.
As a person I know how important I am to the poor and I give
but to have one half of Americans on aid AND encouraging more
saying it is there for the taking :wtf: No its not, it is funny money! :fp:
I would rather be dependent on free enterprise than my government.
I would rather work hard than be taken care of
I would rather be a cow than a sheep ...
cows make a valuable sustaining product
sheep lay around and shed and finally get eaten or worse.
People want to work, let's encourage that not more aid, they too want to be cows not sheep.
Actually... No, they're not. Because the whole theme of their convention is "I built this all on my own and nobody helped me." Try again.
I almost burst out laughing at this. Because it's insipid.
The Republican Party has been banging that "lower taxes on businesses to make more people go shopping" head-in-ass argument for years. It makes no sense and has been proven to NOT WORK. At all.
You want to reduce regulations? Really? Tell us... what "regulations" need to be reduced to make people spend their money again?
And finally... Print Advertising is dead. And pointless. And most of all... a tiny little drop in the bucket. But most of all... Print advertising to WHOM? The middle class has no money to buy things. You can advertise to them all you want. The people have no disposable income because the cost of living has risen and their wages haven't, they're shouldering the tax burden of two wars all on their own... the top 1% had their taxes lowered and all they did with that money was hide it in Swiss Bank Accounts.
Well what your proposing is more like "round and round we circle the toilet bowl until all the money is depleted from the middle class and the mega-rich have a circle-jerk.
"There she is — my Mom, Betty."
Fact-check: True. Paul Ryan's mom was there.
"My Dad, a small-town lawyer, was also named Paul."
Fact-check: True. Paul Ryan's father was named Paul.
"I live on the same block where I grew up."
Fact-check: True. Ryan still lives on the same block where he grew up.
"President Barack Obama came to office during an economic crisis."
Fact-check: True. President Obama came to office during an economic crisis.
"My home state voted for President Obama."
Fact-check: True. Obama carried Wisconsin in 2008.
"My wonderful grandma, Janet, had Alzheimer's and moved in with Mom and me."
Fact-check: True. Ryan's grandmother moved in with him and his mother.
"[President Obama] created a bipartisan debt commission."
Fact-check: True. President Obama created a bipartisan debt commission.
"Mom was 50 when my Dad died."
Fact-check: True. Ryan's mother was 50 years old when his father died.
"Mitt and I also go to different churches."
Fact-check: True. Ryan is Catholic, while Romney is a Mormon.
Well lets hope it works cause its obvious what this adminstration is doing is not working
and again get a big picture it is not shopping :fp:
to the single internet business owner.
Perhaps print advertising is dead for porn but we do a lot of "propaganda type"
business materials for business meetings, promotions, sales kits etc.
Perhaps if more of the middle class gets back to work they can afford to buy more.
Novel idea
As far as regulations I learned about the H.R.4078 when researching some other bills
it is made up of 6 bills actually geared to removing red tape
that hinder small business from hiring and growing. But I would love to learn much more
got any government regulations to share?
I prefer round and round the businesses grow to employ more people and get them off
of aid
Classic
So then how come every day a new magazine goes belly up and the only ones making a living are the ones with websites?
Exactly my point. And how does giving Mitt Romney a big tax cut get people back to work?
Well, I'm kinda glad that the bottled drinks I drink don't have cow feces in it, usually. Thank the FDA for that.
I think for better success tonight with "his" speech they should bring out a cardboard cutout of Romney to give the speech, its warmer than the real thing!!
I'm wondering just how long it took the country to emerge from The Depression?? HAve qwe become such a gotta have it now society that we cant see that to recoup any semblence of what we had before the econ tanked is going to take a long time?
While it may not be the growth everyone hoped/s for , its still growing , just very slowly.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
WOW talking about facts here - there is a difference between the BUDGET and the DEBT - fact is the debt has gone up more under Obama then 8 years prior under Bush.
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
we've been burned more than once for big bucks when they did.
Everyone thinks they can be the next best with the greatest ideas...
I cringe when I see magazine work coming, which would be rare now.
Though we have had some decent long standings like Veranda and the people involved...
they stole some of my best employees
Think outside this box for our printing business and what we provide,
again internal advertising type promotional work like sales kits,
brochures, tri-folds and the like for seminars, conventions , point of purchase.
How does it help me, the middle class and micro business owner,
when a big business gets a tax break?
Lets see ... how does it hurt me when they don't...
like lately laying off, afraid to invest and grow
we need a business friendly environment to get people back to work,
then the middle class is better off, small business and micro business is better off.
Trickle down.
Everything revolves around business as it should...
unless you'd rather it revolved around government taking care of everyone.
I vote for freedom and free enterprise and building my own.
Yes some regulations are necessary for safety but if you research that bill of six
you'll see the government has its fingers in pies so much so it's keeping them from baking.