Lost dogs 2 / Stray Cats and other outtakes

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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I would be pissed if Ole ever made it onto a studio recorded album. For some reason, that song makes me mad, and not in a good way. Are people.including it on their fantasy track lists just because it unfortunately exists, or because they think it's a good song? ...

    I haven't seen anyone mention ALTAR yet (but haven't read the whole thread). That is my #1 to include in a Lost Dogs 2! A freshly recorded version of Catholic Boy would be a cool cover for it too. And a fully involved version of It's Okay would also be cool if there is room for another cover.

    But some great suggestions in this thread, minus Ole of course! I would do backflips if PJ actually did this! It would be amazing!

    For myself ALTAR stand for???
    Oh no, sorry for the bad caps. The song is called Altar. An original song. I think it was only performed once ever, back in 1995. For some reason it's not listed on the 10c site as ever existing. I don't know why that would be... I assume there is a reason, possibly personal?? Someone suggested it was a tag to Better Man, but it seems like its own song to me. It's on Gremmie. And it's awesome!!

    Here is a thread I found about it when I discovered the song.
    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=132129&p=4280816&hilit=altar#p4280816

    Is that the song with "words they seem out of place?" (or something like that.) I love that tune. I always considered it an improv however just like "this 'the part where I play the Pope" and some other songs they sang at that time. (Yeastie Girls is still an high light.) This one was one of their better improvs though. I always thought it was called "Words Out of Place" or "Out of Place"; I heard several diff. titles.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749
    fortyshades wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:

    For myself ALTAR stand for???
    Oh no, sorry for the bad caps. The song is called Altar. An original song. I think it was only performed once ever, back in 1995. For some reason it's not listed on the 10c site as ever existing. I don't know why that would be... I assume there is a reason, possibly personal?? Someone suggested it was a tag to Better Man, but it seems like its own song to me. It's on Gremmie. And it's awesome!!

    Here is a thread I found about it when I discovered the song.
    viewtopic.php?f=4&t=132129&p=4280816&hilit=altar#p4280816

    Is that the song with "words they seem out of place?" (or something like that.) I love that tune. I always considered it an improv however just like "this 'the part where I play the Pope" and some other songs they sang at that time. (Yeastie Girls is still an high light.) This one was one of their better improvs though. I always thought it was called "Words Out of Place" or "Out of Place"; I heard several diff. titles.
    It could be an improv, but it's not posted as an improv on this website, so I have no reason to assume that necessarily ... it could have been written as a song, who knows. We probably never will, since PJ has decided that it never happened. :lol: I think this is my white whale because it's been turned into a mystery b/c the band hasn't acknowledged it... I don't know if there are any other songs or improvs where this is the case? If so, I don't know of them. Yes, as mentioned in the thread about it along with the lyrics, it's been called Words seem out of place... since PJ has never named it as far as i know, any title is just fan-generated, so I go with Altar. :)
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749
    fortyshades wrote:
    mydogmookieblaylock wrote:
    thanks for giving me a bunch of songs to look up on youtube

    Good luck with that. For if they were on you tube - besides the christmas singles - than you are in luck. So far these song titles are collected from articles and various other sources; not you tube.
    Some of the songs named are on YouTube... not all, but some. Others are on Gremmie too. But you're right, some are hard or next to impossible, or actually imlossible to find.
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    edited December 2012
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    mydogmookieblaylock wrote:
    thanks for giving me a bunch of songs to look up on youtube

    Good luck with that. For if they were on you tube - besides the christmas singles - than you are in luck. So far these song titles are collected from articles and various other sources; not you tube.
    Some of the songs named are on YouTube... not all, but some. Others are on Gremmie too. But you're right, some are hard or next to impossible, or actually imlossible to find.

    Yep, all the christmas songs and songs that ended on soundtracks. They are all on youtube or gremmie. The outtakes however (mind you; the studio versions) are so far I know impossible to find. If you do find it, let us know... But I rather wait for original releases at some point. (I keep hoping and keep getting my fingers crossed that at some point we hear these tunes.)
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    @PJ_Soul

    Altar is as good as any... God knows, maybe this is one of the infamous Cigarette Songs with slight lyrical changes. (Ashes are all on my tray, ashes fall from my altar. Ashes seem out of place.) ;)
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749
    fortyshades wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:

    Good luck with that. For if they were on you tube - besides the christmas singles - than you are in luck. So far these song titles are collected from articles and various other sources; not you tube.
    Some of the songs named are on YouTube... not all, but some. Others are on Gremmie too. But you're right, some are hard or next to impossible, or actually imlossible to find.

    Yep, all the christmas songs and songs that ended on soundtracks. They are all on youtube or gremmie. The outtakes however (mind you; the studio versions) are so far I know impossible to find. If you do find it, let us know... But I rather wait for original releases at some point. (I keep hoping and keep getting my fingers crossed that at some point we hear these tunes.)
    Yeah, I've got recordings that aren't singles or soundtracks. Demos and bootlegs ... but it's all on my computer at work, so can't help further than that at the moment. Some shit floating around came from stuff like a tape that some friend of the band got and passed around and then someone finally passed around the mp3, that kind of thing ... some hard to find shit (although there are a some early demos on Gremmie too), but some of the rare stuff is floating around out there.
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    @PJ_Soul

    well, if they are floating around even more reason to get Lost Dogs and Stray Cats out there. They are already propably produced and mastered. Or they only raw versions. And is Alarms of Nautical eventually "Life Wasted"? If so, I can scrap it from the list. What about Cold Conscession?
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    fortyshades wrote:
    Does anyone know what the title of the extra song on BackSpacer was that was given to only a small group of people?

    :shock: :shock:

    Anyone ????
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    *bump*

    Maybe it was Olé? Anyone?
  • Hugh Freaking Dillon
    Hugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    fortyshades wrote:
    *bump*

    Maybe it was Olé? Anyone?

    I doubt it. didn't Brenda O'Brien call the extra track "amazing" or something like that?
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    *bump*

    Maybe it was Olé? Anyone?

    I doubt it. didn't Brenda O'Brien call the extra track "amazing" or something like that?

    Well, what do you describe "amazing"? I did also hear somewhere that it was a very personal song.

    Still, someone on this board must have heard it; a titlle, a description, anything that make our hunger and eager hearts beat a bit faster??? Pretty please, with icecream? Either way, I can put it on the Stray Cats list, which I may dub as "the-songs-we-will-never-hear" list.
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    Great thread btw. I have a serious "complete-ist" complex when it comes to PJ music and was trying to get the definitive PJ ORIGINAL list about a month ago. (http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=203983).

    Let's keep this one going!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    *bump*

    Maybe it was Olé? Anyone?

    I doubt it. didn't Brenda O'Brien call the extra track "amazing" or something like that?
    Definitely not Ole then.
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    *bump*

    Maybe it was Olé? Anyone?

    I doubt it. didn't Brenda O'Brien call the extra track "amazing" or something like that?
    Definitely not Ole then.

    Nope, Olé doesn't sound all too personal. Has anyone heard this extra song? (I don't want a link, I don't even want to hear it until it is officially released) But *someone* must have heard it... Or was there a gag-order with the song?

    Either way, if you hear, read or discovered other outtakes, put them here. Lets try to make this list as comprehensible as possible.
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Time to bump this one, to remind everyone how many unheard songs are out there...
  • ckravitz
    ckravitz NJ Posts: 1,668
    fortyshades wrote:
    Time to bump this one, to remind everyone how many unheard songs are out there...

    Agreed. And also for someone/anyone to provide some details about this extra Backspacer song!
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    ckravitz wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    Time to bump this one, to remind everyone how many unheard songs are out there...

    Agreed. And also for someone/anyone to provide some details about this extra Backspacer song!

    I start to wonder if this rumor is true to begin with. It is hard to believe that a small group of people had heard this song and not even a title leaked.
  • primussucks
    primussucks Posts: 2,365
    ckravitz wrote:
    fortyshades wrote:
    Time to bump this one, to remind everyone how many unheard songs are out there...

    Agreed. And also for someone/anyone to provide some details about this extra Backspacer song!
    Early this year mike said that there were 2 songs from the backspacer sessions that might make it onto the new record.
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    primussucks wrote:
    Early this year mike said that there were 2 songs from the backspacer sessions that might make it onto the new record.

    Hmm. :think: Two songs?

    I hope they release another set of outtakes. Lost Dogs is my favorite PJ album. :)
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    curmudgeoness wrote:
    primussucks wrote:
    Early this year mike said that there were 2 songs from the backspacer sessions that might make it onto the new record.

    Hmm. :think: Two songs?

    I hope they release another set of outtakes. Lost Dogs is my favorite PJ album. :)

    I am with you...

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