Lost dogs 2 / Stray Cats and other outtakes

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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    If you guess have more rumors, Let me know. Rumors and no links please. Dont want this to be shut down. Still waiting for that elusive song that was supposedly on Backspacer, so I read, but only given to friends and family. Pendulum maybe?
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Slow Leash. It was mentioned in the PJ20 book.
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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    Put it on the list.
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    Updated.
  • PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,123
    Sunburn / Improv (Perth 2003) / Cold Confession
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  • JoostoneJoostone Posts: 223
    Pusherman was not recorded by the band, just the original Curtis song on those tape ;)
    However, it appeared that 'owner of the lonely heart' was indeed recorded ...
    PJ: Pinkpop 2000, Sydney I/II/III 2003, Adelaide 2003, Arnhem 2006, Antwerp 2006, Berlin 2006, Dusseldorf 2007, Nijmegen 2007, Werchter 2007, Rotterdam 2009, Berlin 2009, Nijmegen 2010, Amsterdam I/II 2012, Amsterdam I/II 2014, Amsterdam I/II 2018, Pinkpop 2018, Werchter 2018.
    EV: Amsterdam II 2012, Amsterdam I/III 2017, Amsterdam I 2019
    Brad: Zoetermeer & Utrecht 2013
    Soundgarden: Pinkpop 2012, Amsterdam 2013, Utrecht 2014
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    I try to avoid live tags
    / improvs since these werent on lost Dogs 1 either. Only studio outtakes. So "Owner of a lonely heart" was not a cover? Cold Concession is in there; the title Jeff Ament gave to it during an interview.

    Its an impressive list. Common guys give use something for the 25th anniversary. Lost Dogs is bij all standards a good alb, if not am excellent one, and a double album at that. (And I love the liner notes.) Remove Pusherman from the orhinal list.
  • pj 79pj 79 Posts: 150
    Open Door
    10 Billions Years
    Of The Earth
    Let It Ride
    Cold Confession
    Last Soldier
    Puzzled and Games (a.k.a. Light Years)
    Fallen (a.k.a. Falling Down)
    Olympic Platinum
    25/11/05
    26/11/05
    13/11/11
    03/04/13
    07/11/15

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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    They are all on the first page, except Fallen (I think). You know which session?
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    If its Fallin Down sung with Glen Hansard its not a PJ song.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    What is this? Any info on it?

    - Life at the Point of Now (ST sessions)
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  • PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,123

    They are all on the first page, except Fallen (I think). You know which session?

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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    Pap said:

    They are all on the first page, except Fallen (I think). You know which session?

    Holiday single 2010

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_bVMeOdFk
    Updated it. Does someone know what the extra song on Backdpacer was? Or was that just a rumour? Maybe some birds have some knowledge?
  • elwayvedderelwayvedder South Jersey Posts: 9,040

    Pap said:

    They are all on the first page, except Fallen (I think). You know which session?

    Holiday single 2010

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_bVMeOdFk
    Updated it. Does someone know what the extra song on Backdpacer was? Or was that just a rumour? Maybe some birds have some knowledge?
    I haven't read the entire thread so my apologies if this is repeated but the extra song from Backspacer that wasn't released is indeed Pendulum. There's artwork on the cover for Backspacer (see the pendulum in the back ground of the top middle art panel). Ok, now to go back and read this thread because it looks awesome!
  • JoostoneJoostone Posts: 223
    I rearranged the list in first post like this, I think it's a bit more logical.
    I excluded Eddie solo songs or demos, that would be a different compilation.
    Included are songs not on Lost Dogs, songs that are either released, leaked or mentioned.
    Mentioned in the PJ20 book, or mentioned by people who own some tapes and demos.
    Excluded are also songs that are released on the RVM greatest hits compilations or legacy edtions.

    Known original songs (recorded/mentioned/leaked/released):

    - Long Road [released]
    - Angel [released]
    - Leatherman [released]
    - Cold Concession/ Confession (ST sessions) (leaked)
    - 2x4 (ST sessions) (leaked)
    - Let it Ride (ST sessions) (leaked)
    - Chinese (demo) [leaked]
    - Ole [released]
    - Leatherman II [mentioned]
    - Of the Earth [played live]
    - Santa Cruz [released]
    - Santa God [released]
    - I'm Still Here [leaked]
    - Last Soldier [played live] [mentioned]
    - Sunburn (demo) [leaked]
    - Outta My Mind [played live] [released]
    - Happy When Im Crying [released]
    - Olympic Platinum [released]
    - Anything in Between (with lyrics) [leaked]
    -Turning Myst [released]
    - Falling down / Fallen(?) (studio version, holiday single 2010) [played live] [released]
    - I Won't [mentioned]
    - 10 billion years [leaked]
    - Open door [leaked]
    - Puzzles and Games (Light years demo) [leaked]

    Known cover songs (recorded/mentioned/leaked/released):

    - Wishing well * [leaked]
    - I've Got A Feeling * [released]
    - Touch me Im Sick *[released]
    - Don't Believe in Christmas * [released]
    - Sonic Reducer * [released]
    - Someday at Christmas * [released]
    - Better Things * [released]
    - Love Reign O’me * [released]
    - Catholic Boys (PJ with Jim Carrol) [released]
    - Owner of the Lonely Heart * [mentioned]
    - Baba O’Riley * [mentioned]


    Unconfirmed:

    Set Me Up (Knock Me Down) (No Code out take, 1996)
    Linedraw (No Code out take, 1996)
    Xer (Yield out take, 1997)
    Straight and Narrow (Ten Out take, 1990)
    Cigarette Songs (Backspacer outtakes)
    Change (inside Lost Dogs (1) booklet)
    No Losing (inside Lost Dogs (1) booklet)
    Your Face (inside Lost Dogs (1) booklet)
    Fallen (inside Lost Dogs (1) booklet)
    The Little Word (inside Lost Dogs (1) booklet)
    The Big Word (inside Lost Dogs (1) booklet)
    April Bear (Riot Act sessions)
    Backfire (Riot Act sessions)
    Better Days (Riot Act sessions - supposedly different than the Ed Vedder solo song)
    Code Red (Riot Act sessions)
    Don't Follow (Riot Act sessions)
    Faster (Riot Act sessions)
    Had Enough (Riot Act sessions)
    Islands (Riot Act sessions - quite curious about this one)
    It's Too Late (Riot Act sessions)
    Keep Goin' (Ten sessions)
    Levels (Riot Act sessions)
    Meteorologist (Riot Act sessions)
    No Good Reason (Riot Act sessions)
    Searchlight (Riot Act sessions)
    Spin Cycle (Riot Act sessions)
    Life at the Point of Now (ST sessions)
    To Our Home (ST-session)
    Dawn (McCready) (ST-session)
    Echoes (ST-session)
    Alarms Of Nautical (Gossard) (ST-session)
    The Streets (Vedder) (ST-session)
    Thank you (ST-sessions)
    Transcendental Mental Clarity
    PJ: Pinkpop 2000, Sydney I/II/III 2003, Adelaide 2003, Arnhem 2006, Antwerp 2006, Berlin 2006, Dusseldorf 2007, Nijmegen 2007, Werchter 2007, Rotterdam 2009, Berlin 2009, Nijmegen 2010, Amsterdam I/II 2012, Amsterdam I/II 2014, Amsterdam I/II 2018, Pinkpop 2018, Werchter 2018.
    EV: Amsterdam II 2012, Amsterdam I/III 2017, Amsterdam I 2019
    Brad: Zoetermeer & Utrecht 2013
    Soundgarden: Pinkpop 2012, Amsterdam 2013, Utrecht 2014
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    Thanks. Now lets sign the petition. If Long Road is on there, did you also include I got Id?
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    So Pendelum was the song. Anyone know where it was placed on BS?
  • PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,123
    From that list, I could see that they were leading a really creative period during 2002.
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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    Yes, and I am curious about the songs. Maybe some changed in their title. But still enough material to make a triple CD.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,719
    Pap said:

    From that list, I could see that they were leading a really creative period during 2002.

    I'm sure the events of 2001 stirred up a lot of emotions for many artists
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    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

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  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    True... Which makes this a curious bunch for Riot Act is the most downplayed one in the.whole cstalogue.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,719

    True... Which makes this a curious bunch for Riot Act is the most downplayed one in the.whole cstalogue.

    Yep I've always thought that.
    severed hand thirteen

    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

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  • JoostoneJoostone Posts: 223
    Agreed. There seems to be lot of output for the Binaural, Riot Act and Avocado sessions. Most of the Binaural stuff was on Lost Dogs. If Lost Dogs II will ever gets a release I think most unreleased songs will be from the Riot Act/Avocado sessions.
    PJ: Pinkpop 2000, Sydney I/II/III 2003, Adelaide 2003, Arnhem 2006, Antwerp 2006, Berlin 2006, Dusseldorf 2007, Nijmegen 2007, Werchter 2007, Rotterdam 2009, Berlin 2009, Nijmegen 2010, Amsterdam I/II 2012, Amsterdam I/II 2014, Amsterdam I/II 2018, Pinkpop 2018, Werchter 2018.
    EV: Amsterdam II 2012, Amsterdam I/III 2017, Amsterdam I 2019
    Brad: Zoetermeer & Utrecht 2013
    Soundgarden: Pinkpop 2012, Amsterdam 2013, Utrecht 2014
  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,330
    Are any of these songs "Epic Records" Property? Lost Dogs was an Epic release, correct?

    Does that matter?
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  • CopperTomCopperTom Posts: 2,989
    I believe many of those RA session songs are lyric less.
  • fortyshadesfortyshades Posts: 1,834
    Well, I dont mind some instrumentals. But Also think that some morphed in other "known" songs. Either way, enough in the fault.
  • JoostoneJoostone Posts: 223
    Vedd Hedd said:

    Are any of these songs "Epic Records" Property? Lost Dogs was an Epic release, correct?
    Does that matter?

    Yeah that could matter. PJ signed with Epic for 9 releases, 7 studio albums and 2 compilations (1 greatest hits/1 rarities). So they kinda had to release 'Lost Dogs'. They don't have to release anything, but they can still do offcourse. That PJ20 soundtracks was released with help from Epic, so they could do the same for Lost Dogs II.

    Well, I dont mind some instrumentals. But Also think that some morphed in other "known" songs. Either way, enough in the fault.

    Yeah, these Riot Act outtakes could be false, they could be just very rough sketches, or just unfinished instrumentals. Who knows, but there's probably atleast 1 unreleased finished gem there :). For avocado we know that there are atleast three: Cold consession/Let it Ride/Of the Earth
    PJ: Pinkpop 2000, Sydney I/II/III 2003, Adelaide 2003, Arnhem 2006, Antwerp 2006, Berlin 2006, Dusseldorf 2007, Nijmegen 2007, Werchter 2007, Rotterdam 2009, Berlin 2009, Nijmegen 2010, Amsterdam I/II 2012, Amsterdam I/II 2014, Amsterdam I/II 2018, Pinkpop 2018, Werchter 2018.
    EV: Amsterdam II 2012, Amsterdam I/III 2017, Amsterdam I 2019
    Brad: Zoetermeer & Utrecht 2013
    Soundgarden: Pinkpop 2012, Amsterdam 2013, Utrecht 2014
  • PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,123

    True... Which makes this a curious bunch for Riot Act is the most downplayed one in the.whole cstalogue.

    Perhaps those songs remind them of miserable and stressful times. Who knows? :i_dunno:
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  • PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,123

    Pap said:

    From that list, I could see that they were leading a really creative period during 2002.

    I'm sure the events of 2001 stirred up a lot of emotions for many artists
    If you pay attention to what's going on on the planet, I feel like I can find something to be angry about pretty quick. - Eddie Vedder (2013)
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  • PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,123
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