Drill baby drill

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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Sorry - couldn't resize some infographics.


    American consumption

    http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=06Q&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=687&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=dSRxS1v2czstoM:&imgrefurl=http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/oil-consumption-around-the-world/&imgurl=http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/world-oil-consumption-001.jpg&w=940&h=768&ei=L5c6UNXKGIuo8gSV9IEg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=248&sig=103680954657840975095&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=174&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0,i:119&tx=66&ty=87

    American carbon footprint

    http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1280&bih=687&tbm=isch&tbnid=w-FGi7lC_PzB1M:&imgrefurl=http://scienceblogs.com/deanscorner/2011/01/29/unique-global-carbon-footprint/&imgurl=http://scienceblogs.com/deanscorner/wp-content/blogs.dir/451/files/2012/04/i-14835c91057432fe90d84c2cf4659318-Carbon_Footprint_Resize.jpg&w=720&h=960&ei=0Jg6UJmdK5D68QT5jYHQDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=320&sig=103680954657840975095&page=2&tbnh=161&tbnw=120&start=20&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:20,i:245&tx=73&ty=81

    vs. proven oil reserves throughout the world

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    vs. changes to the American landscape caused by oil (and other natural resources) use/abuse

    http://socks-studio.com/2012/06/12/edward-burtynsky-oil/
    Scroll through all pics but the picture of the tires is especially disturbing.


    Maybe we consume more than we should. Creating viable public transportation systems and engaging alternative energy sources are another way to approach the problem rather than destroying our environment and depleting our few remaining natural resources.

    Maybe a better way to spend our money?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/opinion/sunday/friedman-pass-the-books-hold-the-oil.html?_r=2&src=me&ref=general
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Drill it up.

    Sure, fuck America, as long as it guarantees a short term monetary profit for the 1%'ers. And yet you pretend that ransacking the environment is for the good of the people?

    When will it occur to you that you are the problem, and not the solution?


    It is good. Energy costs go down...natural gas is much cleaner for the enviroment...our CO2 emmissions are down because of it. I see no drawbacks what so ever.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,810
    Jason P wrote:
    mickeyrat wrote:
    so since most of the oil extracted from US soil gets sold on the world market at prices SET by the world market, just how are we supposed to benefit by subsidized oil companies being allowed to drill in sensitive areas?
    jobs.
    temp jobs at best. Kinda like construction jobs. temp jobs. nothing more. Dont really add any significant permanent jobs.

    I take that back, some off shore account jobs.
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Cons of natural gas use:

    Non-renewable fuel
    Emits carbon dioxide when burned
    Contains 80-95% methane, a potent greenhouse gas (GHG)
    Explosive, potentially dangerous
    Concentrated sources require long distance transmission and transportation
    Requires extensive pipelines to transport over land
    Stored and distributed under high pressure
    Requires turbine-generators to produce electricity
    Liquefied form (LNG) used to transport over water, in tanker ships is potentially very dangerous
    Additionally, there are significant environmental risks associated with “fracking”
    Water pollution due to runoff of fracking chemicals
    Companies are not required to disclose the composition of fracking chemicals
    Casing leaks lead to gas in the water—blazing faucets
    Fracking requires a large amount of water


    Not sure where some of you live, but I live close to a coal burning plant that supplies electricity to our city. It has caused a great deal of problems within my area of town but that seems to be a minor problem for our politicians regardless of how much complaining we do.

    http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120809/GREEN01/308090080/Kentucky-tops-nation-in-toxic-power-plant-pollution?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE

    I live about 5 miles from this plant, lucky for me, however, on a clear day I can see the "steam" from this plant. Forget about riding my bike or running along our fabulous loop around the city -you'll choke to death on the "steam" No consequences? Easy to say when you don't live in one of the most polluted states in the US. No consequences :roll: I call bullshit
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

    I AM MINE
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    DS1119 wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Drill it up.

    Sure, fuck America, as long as it guarantees a short term monetary profit for the 1%'ers. And yet you pretend that ransacking the environment is for the good of the people?

    When will it occur to you that you are the problem, and not the solution?


    It is good. Energy costs go down...natural gas is much cleaner for the enviroment...our CO2 emmissions are down because of it. I see no drawbacks what so ever.

    Apologies for my last sentence...I was full of beer in the wee small hours.

    You really think Romney's plan won't harm the environment?
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You really think Romney's plan won't harm the environment?


    Less than what's out there right now.
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    riotgrl wrote:
    Cons of natural gas use:

    Non-renewable fuel ARENT ALL?
    Emits carbon dioxide when burned DON'T ALL?
    Contains 80-95% methane, a potent greenhouse gas (GHG) nOT THE ONLY ONE.
    Explosive, potentially dangerous aREN'T THEY ALL?
    Concentrated sources require long distance transmission and transportation wHAT DOESN'T?
    Requires extensive pipelines to transport over land wHAT DOESN'T?
    Stored and distributed under high pressure WHAT ISN'T?
    Requires turbine-generators to produce electricity WHAT DOESN'T?
    Liquefied form (LNG) used to transport over water, in tanker ships is potentially very dangerous OIL IS SAFER?
    Additionally, there are significant environmental risks associated with “fracking” MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE?
    Water pollution due to runoff of fracking chemicals NOT TRUE.
    Companies are not required to disclose the composition of fracking chemicals COMPANIES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE A LOT OF STUFF.
    Casing leaks lead to gas in the water—blazing faucets FALSE.
    Fracking requires a large amount of water SO WHAT? WATER IS RENEWABLE.


    Not sure where some of you live, but I live close to a coal burning plant that supplies electricity to our city. It has caused a great deal of problems within my area of town but that seems to be a minor problem for our politicians regardless of how much complaining we do.

    http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20120809/GREEN01/308090080/Kentucky-tops-nation-in-toxic-power-plant-pollution?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE

    I live about 5 miles from this plant, lucky for me, however, on a clear day I can see the "steam" from this plant. Forget about riding my bike or running along our fabulous loop around the city -you'll choke to death on the "steam" No consequences? Easy to say when you don't live in one of the most polluted states in the US. No consequences :roll: I call bullshit
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Romney's plan is to achieve energy independence by 2020.

    Obama looks like he can accomplish energy independence by 2014.

    Anyone trumpeting energy Independence has to vote for Obama, right?

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Romney's plan is already in the works! :D

    Production from shale formations is expected to grow from 1.6 million barrels per day this year to 4.2 million barrels per day by 2020, according to Wood Mackenzie, an energy consulting firm. That means these new formations will yield more oil by 2020 than major oil suppliers such as Iran and Canada produce today.

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-may-soon-become-worlds-top-oil-producer-173753430--finance.html

    Wow!

    I, Jason P, have a plan and prophecy! This evening, the sun shall set on the western horizon! And by next morning, it shall rise on the east!

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    drill baby drill oughta be stuffed up someone's fat fucking ass
    rather
    crammed up several fat fucking wealthy asses

    useless dogshit fuckers will do the damndest to destroy this fine planet. why can't we just take 'em out?
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  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Drill more. Get more. I truly hope anyone who is against this uses zero petroleum products (psst....that means the computer youre using right now). :lol:
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    DS1119 wrote:
    Drill more. Get more. I truly hope anyone who is against this uses zero petroleum products (psst....that means the computer youre using right now). :lol:
    did you just poop your pants or burp?
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
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    no more forever."

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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Is everyone who is supposed to be taking their court ordered meds following the rules?