Drill baby drill

BinauralJam

This is one smart dude. I believe he has earned my vote.

Earned it huh? you were on the fence then were ya ?

pandora

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

pandora wrote:

I said the Democrats pretend to and make big bucks doing so ...

So, the GOP has no intention of even admitting that there are environmental problems that need fixing. Would you agree?

It's a major plank of the Democratic Party to improve environmental conditions. The increases in our wind & solar power generation over the past 3.5 years are not pretend, as you like to say.

In fact my local State Representative has a great record on environmental issues, to give you one example: http://www.pahouse.com/Vitali/ I guess all that stuff is just pretend though. :roll: That poison water people get after shale drilling occurs must be pretend as well.

I am nearly a single issue voter, with this being the single issue. Other things also matter to me. Just nothing anywhere near important to me as this issue, and I know a lot about it. The reason it's important to me is that I have children that could reasonable be expected to live until about 2100 and I want them to have a nice world to live in. Obama has done at least some things towards that end. Romney will do NOTHING to help the situation, I think it's fairly clear.

And obviously you didn't answer my question and just changed the subject.

No didn't change nor avoid the subject which would be rare for me to do
if ever,
I was quite upfront in saying it is not a priority
for the GOP which is correct. Our military would be and that is a priority
for me as well.

My comment really stems from the nonprofits ...
done some research on where the money goes and does not go.
It could make a buddy sick really. So may generous people giving to the environment
just lining the pockets of the rich.

Yes the alternate energy that was to make so many new jobs
and repair the economy too.
Good idea maybe but it's not helping fast enough.

Who is making dollars on the increase in the wind and solar power companies
that have had an increase in he last 3.5 years?
Who invests in those companies? Besides our own tax dollars ...
I will research.... perhaps our Democratic representatives.

Its very odd don't you think, how the problems of the our country
have strategically split between red and blue....
and not much gets done.

As far as the children of the future ... how bout that deficit?

usamamasan1

pandora wrote:

As far as the children of the future ... how bout that deficit?

true that!

Romeny's energy plan is going to help there too. CAN'T WAIT!

gimmesometruth27

BinauralJam wrote:

This is one smart dude. I believe he has earned my vote.

Earned it huh? you were on the fence then were ya ?

the 7th choice, by process of elimination in the primary campaign, earned the vote...

Johnny Abruzzo

The Deficit, the deficit!!! It's hilarious, hilarious that you guys trust these ass holes to fix the deficit after what W did, and Ryan voted for all his shit, of course. You act like it started at $0 on 1/20/09. :roll:

You're the one who constantly brings up red/blue/purple.

I guess the funny thing is the drill thing is going to happen no matter who wins. Romney would just find even more money to give away to Big Oil/Gas and get rid of the pittance that currently goes into Wind & Solar.

Jason P

Too many font changes ... getting motion sickness.

pjl44

Byrnzie wrote:

pjl44 wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Is it really true that 47% of Americans are currently supporting this shameless, corporate piece of shit?

Because he's running against another shameless, corporate piece of shit and we laugh off third parties like it's a preposterous concept.

Though I think it's fair to say that Obama is the lesser of two evils, by a long margin.

NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.

"The lesser of two evils is still evil."

Johnson/Gray 2012

Byrnzie

pjl44 wrote:

NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.

If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.

pjl44

Byrnzie wrote:

pjl44 wrote:

NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.

If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.

Again, it's telling what we've become as a populace when we're debating who will do the least damage to our civil liberties and economy. When someone spends the majority of their time discrediting the opponent, it shows a lack of faith in whom they purport to support.

peacefrompaul

We really need to find some alternative fuel and power sources.

Byrnzie

peacefrompaul wrote:

We really need to find some alternative fuel and power sources.

Or people could reduce their reliance on cars and get off their fat, lazy asses, and learn to walk instead?

Or use bicycles? Or improve public transport?

brianlux

Byrnzie wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

We really need to find some alternative fuel and power sources.

Or people could reduce their reliance on cars and get off their fat, lazy asses, and learn to walk instead?

Or use bicycles? Or improve public transport?

In my opinion, both of you are dead on correct. Thank you!

Halifax2TheMax

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Deficit, the deficit!!! It's hilarious, hilarious that you guys trust these ass holes to fix the deficit after what W did, and Ryan voted for all his shit, of course. You act like it started at $0 on 1/20/09. :roll:

You're the one who constantly brings up red/blue/purple.

I guess the funny thing is the drill thing is going to happen no matter who wins. Romney would just find even more money to give away to Big Oil/Gas and get rid of the pittance that currently goes into Wind & Solar.

No, actually, it started with a surplus on 1/20/2001.

Good luck with R&R (RichieRich/RollsRoyce) at the helm, unless you're a rich white man.

Peace.

peacefrompaul

Byrnzie wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

We really need to find some alternative fuel and power sources.

Or people could reduce their reliance on cars and get off their fat, lazy asses, and learn to walk instead?

Or use bicycles? Or improve public transport?

Well, sure. That's all important too.

usamamasan1

In case you missed it and want to be educated when discussing the topic, I will provide you a link to learn.

http://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/f ... r_8.23.pdf

Byrnzie

usamamasan1 wrote:

In case you missed it and want to be educated when discussing the topic, I will provide you a link to learn.

http://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/f ... r_8.23.pdf

He used the words 'Mittromney.com' and 'learn' in the same sentence.

Halifax2TheMax

usamamasan1 wrote:

In case you missed it and want to be educated when discussing the topic, I will provide you a link to learn.

http://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/f ... r_8.23.pdf

I read through R&Rs energy plan for America and I have four (4) questions:

1. If and when federal lands are opened to exploitation under a R&R administration, will I get a royalty check? I'm a stakeholder and share owner as a resident and taxpayer. Do I get a check as a percentage of profits, similar to residents of Alaska receive?

2. On page 17 of R&Rs manifesto, its stated that the Chamber of Commerce states that 351 "energy projects" were "delayed" in 2010. What percentage of the total energy projects begun, started, applied, pitched, etc, does that represent?

3. Does it not concern you that the majority of "Did you know" citations are from a. Wall Street (Citibank) and b. Energy development interests?

4. What happens after 2020 and in twenty years?

I'm interested in your astute answers.

Peace.

brianlux

usamamasan1 wrote:

In case you missed it and want to be educated when discussing the topic, I will provide you a link to learn.

http://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/f ... r_8.23.pdf

You often say "I'm here to help" usamamsan1 and in this case I really do appreciate the humor break!

pjl44

Byrnzie wrote:

pjl44 wrote:

NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.

If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.

For someone rightly calling for intellectual honesty in that Assange thread, it's a bummer to see you apologizing for the administration that's hunting him down. You seem like a savvy dude and I would have imagined the "it could be worse" argument to be beneath you.

Byrnzie

pjl44 wrote:

For someone rightly calling for intellectual honesty in that Assange thread, it's a bummer to see you apologizing for the administration that's hunting him down. You seem like a savvy dude and I would have imagined the "it could be worse" argument to be beneath you.

Except I'm not apologizing for any administration. I said they're the lesser of two evils. And as for the "it could be worse" argument being beneath me, I'd be a lot more comfortable with a U.S President that possesses a certain amount of intelligence and judiciousness, as opposed to some self-interested corporate huckster who will continue fucking this World where George W. Bush left off.

The U.S government is corrupt to it's core, regardless of who's at the helm. But it's corrupt by degrees. And if it's bad enough now under Obama then the World certainly doesn't need a dangerous jackass like Romney as President.