So let see....when will our oil be worth the most....when all other sources have been drained. Soooo if we where really smart we'd use all of the Mideast oil now...while its realtively cheap and save ours for later.
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funny stuff....
Isn't it the Democrat way to pretend to fix the environment
and make big bucks doing it?
Please direct me to all the sources you have for Republican ideas to fix the environment. I'll wait...
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
funny stuff....
Isn't it the Democrat way to pretend to fix the environment
and make big bucks doing it?
Please direct me to all the sources you have for Republican ideas to fix the environment. I'll wait...
but please, dont hold your breath.
Did you know carbon "cap & trade" was a Republican concept. Of course they decided to oppose it once Al Gore became the publicist of global warming. :roll: And especially when BHO took office.
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Please direct me to all the sources you have for Republican ideas to fix the environment. I'll wait...
but please, dont hold your breath.
Did you know carbon "cap & trade" was a Republican concept. Of course they decided to oppose it once Al Gore became the publicist of global warming. :roll: And especially when BHO took office.
How did you get from my statement that I think the Republicans
work towards saving the environment? That is not a top priority at all.
I said the Democrats pretend to and make big bucks doing so ...
WASHINGTON — It’s the political cure-all for high gas prices: Drill here, drill now. But more US drilling has not changed how deeply the gas pump drills into your wallet, math and history show.
A statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and US domestic oil production by the Associated Press shows no statistical correlation between how much oil comes out of US wells and the price at the pump.
If more domestic oil drilling worked as politicians say, you’d now be paying about $2 a gallon for gasoline. Instead, you’re paying the highest prices ever for March.
Political rhetoric about the blame over gas prices and the power to change them — whether Republican claims now or Democrats’ charges four years ago — is not supported by cold, hard figures. And that’s especially true about oil drilling in the United States. More oil production in the United States does not mean consistently lower prices at the pump.
Sometimes prices increase as American drilling ramps up. That’s what has happened in the past three years. Since February 2009, US oil production has increased 15 percent when seasonally adjusted. Prices in those three years went from $2.07 per gallon to $3.58.
US oil production is back to the same level it was in March 2003, when gas cost $2.10 per gallon when adjusted for inflation. But that’s not what prices are now.
That’s because oil is a global commodity and US production has only a tiny influence on supply.
When you put the inflation-adjusted price of gas on the same chart as US oil production since 1976, the numbers sometimes go in the same direction, sometimes in opposite directions. If drilling for more oil meant lower prices, the lines on the chart would consistently go in opposite directions. A basic statistical measure of correlation found no link between the two.
“ ‘Drill, baby, drill’ has nothing to do with it,’’ said Judith Dwarkin, chief energy economist at ITG investment research. Two other energy economists said the same thing, and others in the field have been making that observation for decades.
The statistics directly contradict the title of GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich’s 2008 book “Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less,’’ as well as the claims from the GOP presidential candidates.
Earlier this month, GOP front-runner Mitt Romney said of his solution to higher gas prices: “I can cut through the baloney . . . and just tell him, ‘Mr. President, open up drilling in the Gulf, open up drilling in ANWR (the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge). Open up drilling in continental shelf, drill in North Dakota, drill in Oklahoma and Texas.’’’
On Wednesday, with President Obama traveling to oil and gas production fields on federal lands, Crossroads GPS, a nonprofit arm of a super PAC supporting GOP candidates, released a new ad to air in the same states he was visiting. It accused Obama of restricting oil development in America and concludes “bad energy policies mean energy prices we can’t afford.’’
The late 1980s and 1990s show exactly how domestic drilling is not related to gas prices.
Seasonally adjusted US oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago. But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s. Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third. If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared. Instead they went down by nearly a dollar.
The AP analysis used Energy Department figures for regular unleaded gas prices adjusted for inflation to 2012 dollars, oil production, and oil demand. The figures go back to January 1976, the earliest the Energy Department keeps figures on unleaded gas prices. Phil Hanser, an economist and statistician at the energy consulting firm The Brattle Group; University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego; New York University statistics professor Edward Melnick; and David Peterson, a retired Duke University statistics professor, came to the same conclusion.
When US production goes up, the price of gas “is certainly not going down,’’ Melnick said. “The data does not suggest that whatsoever.’’
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
The Republicans for years have told the U.S. citizens that we need to drill for more oil in order to get off our dependence of foreign oil. The problem with this is idea is that all oil goes into the global market. All American oil is sold through the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
The CME brings our oil, an American natural resource, onto the global market to be sold on behalf of the corporation that drilled it. In fact, America has been exporting millions of barrels a day. In 2008 the United States exported 1.7 million barrels, up from 1.048 million in 2004 according to Index Muni.
Oil that is extracted from the United States does not stay in the United States. What drill, baby, drill does is increase the amount of oil Exxon can extract, then export and sell, period!
If we allowed every oil companies to drill wherever there was oil, without restrictions, that oil would be put onto the global market and not benefit the United States in regards to reducing oil imports.
All the Republicans want to do is increase the amount of oil Exxon can extract and sell on the global market. This is how the market works. It has nothing to do with foreign oil or funding terrorism. All it has to do with is increasing the profits of the few oil corporations, like Exxon, while destroying many acres of land, such as in Alaska.
As of 2008 the United States produced 8.6 million barrels a day, we exported 1.7 million of those barrels, and consumed 19.6 million and imported 11.3 million. If the Republicans and oily Democrats were really concerned about our dependence on foreign oil, they should be asking why American oil is being exported rather than staying here in the United States.
As this link shows, the more oil the United States drilled, the more we exported. The bottom line is drilling doesn’t take us off foreign oil, but green energy does.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
This is one smart dude. I believe he has earned my vote. Obama is in big trouble, this all makes too much sense. Please, educate yourself and read .....
The Romney Plan For A Stronger Middle Class:ENERGY INDEPENDENCE August 23, 2012
A crucial component of Mitt Romney’s Plan for a Stronger Middle Class is to dramatically increase domestic energy production and partner closely with Canada and Mexicoto achieve North American energy independence by 2020. While President Obama has described his own energy policy as a “hodgepodge,” sent billions of taxpayer dollars to green energy projects run by political cronies, rejected the Keystone XL Pipeline as not in “the nationalinterest,” and sought repeatedly to stall development of America’s domestic resources,Romney’s path forward would establish America as an energy superpower in the 21st century.
THE ROMNEY AGENDA:
Empower states to control onshore energy development;
Open offshore areas for energy development;
Pursue a North American Energy Partnership;
Ensure accurate assessment of energy resources;
Restore transparency and fairness to permitting and regulation; and
Facilitate private-sector-led development of new energy technologies.“An affordable, reliable supply of energy is crucial to America’s economic future.
I have a vision for an America that is an energy superpower, rapidly increasing our own production and partnering with our allies Canada and Mexico to achieve energy independence on this continent. If I am elected president, that vision will become a reality by the end of my second term.”
-Mitt Romney
“We have an unprecedented opportunity to make our natural resources a long -term source of competitive advantage for our nation. If we develop these resources to the fullest, we will not only guarantee ourselves an affordable and reliable supply of energy, but also enjoy benefits throughout our economy. Our trade deficit will shrink,our dollar will strengthen, and tens of billions of dollars will flow to the treasury.Perhaps most importantly, we will experience a manufacturing resurgence that delivers more jobs and more take-home pay for middle-class families across the country.” -Mitt Romney
An Achievable Goal:Energy Independence By 2020 While every President since Nixon has tried and failed to achieve this goal, analysts
across the spectrum – energy experts, investment firms, even academics at Harvard University – now recognize that surging U.S. energy production, combined with the resources of America’s neighbors, can meet all of the continent’s energy needs within a decade. The key is to embracethese resources and open access to them.Did You Know?Citigroup: “The Story Of North American ‘Energy Independence’ Is One Of Incredible Potential.”“While the story of North American ‘energy independence’ is one of incredible potential and possibilitythat could alter the geopolitical landscape from the Middle East to the Mid-Continent –public policy mightwell be the most critical factor in determining whether the current steep supply trajectory remains robust for many decades to come or if it fizzles out; trumping both technology and geology.”
Raymond James: “We Are Looking … [At] Actual Oil Independence By 2020.” “After more than threedecades of falling oil production in the lower 48 states, the U.S. is now poised to sharply increase domestic oil production and sharply decrease its dependence on imported oil…Specifically, we are looking… [at] actual oil independence by 2020.”(Raymond James U.S. Research, “Yes, Mr. President, We Believe WeCan Drill Our Way Out of This Problem,”
Manhattan Institute: “A Complete Reversal In Thinking Is Needed To Orient North America Around Hydrocarbon Abundance.”“The underlying paradigms embedded in American energy policy and regulatory structures are anchored in the idea of shortages and import dependence. A complete reversal in thinking is needed to orient North America around hydrocarbon abundance—and exports. In collaboration with Canada and Mexico, the United States could — and should—forge a broad pro-development, pro-export policy to realize the benefits of our hydrocarbon resources. Such a policy could lead to North America becoming the largest supplier of fuel to the world by 2030
Harvard Kennedy School: “The Western Hemisphere Could Return To A Pre-World War II StatusOf Theoretical Oil Self Sufficiency.”“[T]he Western Hemisphere could return to a pre-World War IIstatus of theoretical oil self-sufficiency, and the United States could dramatically reduce its oil importneeds. … [O]ver the next decades, the growing role of unconventional oils will make the Western[H]emisphere the new center of gravity of oil exploration and production
USA Today : “U.S. Energy Independence Is No Longer A Pipe Dream.” (Tim Mullaney, “U.S. Energy Independence Is No Longer A Pipe Dream,” USA Today ,5/15/12)
Bloomberg: “U.S. Energy Supplies Have Been Transformed In Less Than A Decade.” (Asjylyn Loder,“America’s Energy Seen Adding 3.6 Million Jobs Along With 3% GDP,” Bloomberg ,8/13/12)
The Result: The Emergence Of An Energy Superpower ENERGY INDEPENDENCE HAS WIDE-RANGING BENEFITS FOR AMERICA.
• More than three million new jobs, including over one million in manufacturing;
• An economic resurgence adding more than $500 billion to GDP;
• A stronger dollar and a reduced trade deficit;• More than $1 trillion in revenue for federal, state, and local governments;
• Lower energy prices for job creators and middle-class families; and
• National security strengthened by freedom from dependence on foreign energy supplies.
A successful national energy strategy will have a fundamental influence on the well-being of the nation. An expansion in the affordable, reliable supply of domestically produced energy can bolster the competitiveness of virtually every industry within the country, creating millions of new jobs from coast to coast. With fewer energy imports and more exports of manufactured goods, America’s trade deficit will decline and the dollar will strengthen.The benefits even extend beyond immediate economic growth. The lease payments, royalties,and taxes paid to the American people in return for the development of the nation’s resources can yield literally trillions of dollars in new government revenue. Lower energy prices can ease the burdens on household budgets. And all Americans can rest assured that the nation’s security is no longer beholden to unstable but oil-rich regions half way around the world.
The Result: A Resurgence In American Manufacturing
THE IMPLICATIONS OF AMERICA’S ENERGY REVOLUTION ARE ENORMOUS. • A long-term competitive advantage for U.S. industry thanks to lower costs; and
• Millions of new jobs upstream in the industries that supply energy producers, in the energy production process itself, and downstream in the industries from manufacturing to petrochemicals to transportation that can utilize the output. The revolution in U.S. energy production will not just expand economic opportunity within the energy industry. Upstream businesses that supply the industry will experience a surge in demand, and perhaps the greatest benefit will occur downstream as manufacturers gain access to a more affordable and reliable supply of energy and feedstock. America’s natural resources can be a long-term competitive advantage for American manufacturing and their development is the key to a reindustrialization of the U.S. economy.
The Romney Agenda: Federal Lands
EMPOWER STATES TO CONTROL ONSHORE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT.
• States will be empowered to establish processes to oversee the development and production of all forms of energy on federal lands within their borders, excluding only lands specially designated off-limits;
• State regulatory processes and permitting programs for all forms of energy development will be deemed to satisfy all requirements of federal law;
• Federal agencies will certify state processes as adequate, according to established criteria that are sufficiently broad, to afford the states maximum flexibility to ascertain what is most appropriate; and
• The federal government will encourage the formation of a State Energy DevelopmentCouncil, where states can work together along with existing organizations such asSTRONGER and the IOGCC to share expertise and best management practices.In the midst of the energy revolution taking place on state and privately-held lands across America, oil and gas production on federal lands somehow plummeted last year. This was no accident. President Obama has intentionally sought to shut down oil, gas, and coal production in pursuit of his own alternative energy agenda. Federal land open for exploration has declinednearly 20 percent on his watch, and the rate of permitting is down 37 percent.It now takes a shocking 307 days to receive the permits to drill a new well. Compare that record to what states have achieved on the land under their supervision. States have crafted highly efficient and effective permitting and regulatory programs that address state-specific needs. The state of North Dakota can permit a project in ten days. Colorado does it intwenty-seven. Nor do these processes pose any greater environmental risks. To the contrary,from oil and gas and coal to wind and solar and biofuels, states are far better able to develop,adopt, and enforce regulations based on their unique resources, geology, and local concerns
The Romney Agenda: Offshore Areas
OPEN OFFSHORE AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
• Establish a new five-year offshore leasing plan that aggressively opens new areas for development beginning with those off the coast of Virginia and the Carolinas;
• Set minimum production targets for each five-year leasing plan, requiring annual reportsto Congress on progress in reaching goals and implementation of new policies to compensate for any shortfall; and
• Guarantee that state-of-the-art processes and safeguards for offshore drilling are implemented in a manner designed to support rather than block exploration and production. The Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) is a vital national resource held in trust by the federal government for the American people. Since day one, the Obama Administration has worked systematically to shut down the development of this resource. The Administration has cancelled more leases than it has held and slowed the rate of permitting by over 60 percent. As a result,offshore oil production declined 14% last year and production in the Gulf of Mexico this year will be 25 percent below what had been expected before the Obama policies took effect. Beyond the Gulf of Mexico, President Obama has stifled efforts at exploration entirely. Off the Atlantic coast, for instance, billions of barrels of oil await development and a bipartisan consensus in Virginia supports doing just that. Unfortunately, the President chose to block accessto those resources and cancel leases that had been planned in the area. Decisions made today about access to energy resources affect investment and production for decades into the future.Opening greater access and streamlining permitting will not only increase production in areas where resources have already been identified, but also speed the identification and development of new resources.
The Romney Agenda: North America
PURSUE A NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY PARTNERSHIP.
• Approve the Keystone XL pipeline;
• Establish a regional agreement to facilitate cross-border energy investment,infrastructure, and sales;
• Promote and expand regulatory cooperation between governments to encourage responsible energy production, including the creation of a forum for sharing best practices and technologies; and
• Institute fast-track regulatory approval processes for cross-border pipelines and other infrastructure. North America is the fastest-growing oil and gas producing region in the world, and the continent now has an opportunity to achieve freedom from OPEC that would not have even been contemplated just ten years ago. Unfortunately, President Obama has chosen to turn his back on America’s neighbors. He rejected the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have dramatically increased the supply of Canadian oil to the U.S. market, and now Canada plans to send that oil to China instead. Today, America still imports more oil from OPEC than it does from Canada and Mexico. As Canadian Prime Minister Harper notes, fostering a greater North American energy partnership that replaces OPEC imports with stable supply from secure sources at discounted prices should be a “no brainer.” And Mexico is now displaying a renewed interest in collaborating with outside partners to increase development of its own plentiful resources. By collaborating with these countries on energy development, America can guarantee itself areliable and affordable supply of energy while also opening up new opportunities for American businesses and workers in the region.
The Romney Agenda: Resource Evaluation
ENSURE ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF ENERGY RESOURCES.
• Approve permits for seismic surveys and exploration offshore to immediately update decades-old information;
• Require the sharing of onshore geological and geophysical information with theDepartment of the Interior;
• Undertake new seismic analysis in offshore areas not included in the new lease plan; and
• Collaborate with Canada and Mexico to ensure accurate inventory of their resources and sharing of data.Every assessment of America’s energy resources indicates tremendous potential. Yet many of these assessments are outdated, based on decades-old technology, and lacking in the data that only becomes available once development begins. President Obama has used this lack of information, coupled with confusion over the difference between “proved” reserves and recoverable resources, to argue incorrectly that America’s resources are scarce. The American people and their policy makers must have a realistic picture of the nation’s true resource abundance in order to make informed decisions about the future of American energy policy. Already, private sector exploration yields valuable public data when it occurs offshore. But in areas where no exploration is allowed to occur, conducting detailed surveys becomes all the more important. There is no excuse for placing any area so far off-limits that its potential cannot even be determined. And when exploration occurs onshore, that information should be shared to help develop the fullest possible picture of America’s energy potential.
The Romney Agenda: Regulatory Reform
RESTORE TRANSPARENCY AND FAIRNESS TO PERMITTING AND REGULATION.
• Implement measured reforms of environmental statutes and regulations to streng then environmental protection without destroying jobs, paralyzing industry, or barring the useof resources like coal;
• Improve the environmental review process by setting clear deadlines and statutes of limitations, requiring better coordination between federal agencies, and allowing state reviews to satisfy federal requirements;
• Prevent agencies from using “sue-and-settle” techniques behind closed doors to circumvent the public rulemaking process, impose onerous regulations, and tie the hands of future administrations; and
• Disclose federal funds spent reimbursing groups for lawsuits against the government. Government oversight is of course crucial to any safe and responsible development of natural resources. But statutes and regulations that were designed to protect public health and the environment have instead been seized on by environmentalists as tools to stop development altogether. President Obama’s Administration, similarly opposed to the development of the nation’s resources, has embraced this approach — going so far as to implement regulations designed to “bankrupt” the coal industry and actually being held in contempt of federal court for illegally imposing a moratorium on drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Overregulation, permitting delays, endless reviews, and senseless litigation interfere with all forms of energy production,from oil and gas drilling to nuclear and coal power generation to the construction of wind farms and solar plants. Modernizing America’s complex environmental statutes, regulations, and permitting processes is crucial to ensuring that the nation can develop its resources safely and efficiently.Laws should promote a rational approach to regulation that takes cost into account. Regulationsshould be carefully crafted to support rather than impede development. Repetitive reviews andstrategic lawsuits should not be allowed to endlessly delay progress or force the government intoimposing rules behind closed doors that it would not approve in public. Energy development, economic growth, and environmental protection can go hand-in-hand if the government focuses on transparency and fairness instead of seeking to pick winners and repay political favors.
The Romney Agenda: Innovation
FACILITATE PRIVATE-SECTOR-LED DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES.
• Focus government investment on research across the full spectrum of energy-related technologies, not on picking winners in the market;
• Support increased market penetration and competition among energy sources by maintaining the RFS and eliminating regulatory barriers to a diversification of the electrical grid, fuel system, or vehicle fleet;
• Ensure that policies for expanding energy development apply broadly to energy sources,from oil and gas exploration, to coal mining, to the siting of wind, solar, hydroelectric,and other renewable energy facilities; and
• Revitalize nuclear power by equipping the NRC to approve new designs and to license approved reactor designs on approved sites within two years.The federal government has a role to play in facilitating innovation in the energy industry.History shows that the United States has moved forward in astonishing ways thanks to investments in basic research that have produced breakthroughs to benefit entire industries.Unfortunately, President Obama’s poor understanding of the private sector has spilled directly into his energy policy, as he sought to have government play venture capitalist and spend billions of dollars subsidizing his chosen companies and technologies. Meanwhile, as companies like Solyndra were going bankrupt and the wind industry was shedding 10,000 jobs, revolutionary innovation in the private sector was paving the way for energy independence and an economic resurgence.Instead of distorting the playing field, the government should be ensuring that it remains level. The same policies that will open access to land for oil, gas, and coal development can also open access for the construction of wind, solar, and hydropower facilities. Strengthening and streamlining regulations and permitting processes will benefit the development of both traditional and alternative energy sources, and encourage the use of a diverse range of fuels including natural gas in transportation. Instead of defining success as providing enough subsidiesfor an uncompetitive technology to survive in the market, success should be defined as eliminating any barriers that might prevent the best technologies from succeeding on their own.
I said the Democrats pretend to and make big bucks doing so ...
So, the GOP has no intention of even admitting that there are environmental problems that need fixing. Would you agree?
It's a major plank of the Democratic Party to improve environmental conditions. The increases in our wind & solar power generation over the past 3.5 years are not pretend, as you like to say.
In fact my local State Representative has a great record on environmental issues, to give you one example: http://www.pahouse.com/Vitali/ I guess all that stuff is just pretend though. :roll: That poison water people get after shale drilling occurs must be pretend as well.
I am nearly a single issue voter, with this being the single issue. Other things also matter to me. Just nothing anywhere near important to me as this issue, and I know a lot about it. The reason it's important to me is that I have children that could reasonable be expected to live until about 2100 and I want them to have a nice world to live in. Obama has done at least some things towards that end. Romney will do NOTHING to help the situation, I think it's fairly clear.
And obviously you didn't answer my question and just changed the subject.
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I said the Democrats pretend to and make big bucks doing so ...
So, the GOP has no intention of even admitting that there are environmental problems that need fixing. Would you agree?
It's a major plank of the Democratic Party to improve environmental conditions. The increases in our wind & solar power generation over the past 3.5 years are not pretend, as you like to say.
In fact my local State Representative has a great record on environmental issues, to give you one example: http://www.pahouse.com/Vitali/ I guess all that stuff is just pretend though. :roll: That poison water people get after shale drilling occurs must be pretend as well.
I am nearly a single issue voter, with this being the single issue. Other things also matter to me. Just nothing anywhere near important to me as this issue, and I know a lot about it. The reason it's important to me is that I have children that could reasonable be expected to live until about 2100 and I want them to have a nice world to live in. Obama has done at least some things towards that end. Romney will do NOTHING to help the situation, I think it's fairly clear.
And obviously you didn't answer my question and just changed the subject.
No didn't change nor avoid the subject which would be rare for me to do
if ever,
I was quite upfront in saying it is not a priority
for the GOP which is correct. Our military would be and that is a priority
for me as well.
My comment really stems from the nonprofits ...
done some research on where the money goes and does not go.
It could make a buddy sick really. So may generous people giving to the environment
just lining the pockets of the rich.
Yes the alternate energy that was to make so many new jobs
and repair the economy too.
Good idea maybe but it's not helping fast enough.
Who is making dollars on the increase in the wind and solar power companies
that have had an increase in he last 3.5 years?
Who invests in those companies? Besides our own tax dollars ...
I will research.... perhaps our Democratic representatives.
Its very odd don't you think, how the problems of the our country
have strategically split between red and blue....
and not much gets done.
As far as the children of the future ... how bout that deficit?
The Deficit, the deficit!!! It's hilarious, hilarious that you guys trust these ass holes to fix the deficit after what W did, and Ryan voted for all his shit, of course. You act like it started at $0 on 1/20/09. :roll:
You're the one who constantly brings up red/blue/purple.
I guess the funny thing is the drill thing is going to happen no matter who wins. Romney would just find even more money to give away to Big Oil/Gas and get rid of the pittance that currently goes into Wind & Solar.
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Is it really true that 47% of Americans are currently supporting this shameless, corporate piece of shit?
Because he's running against another shameless, corporate piece of shit and we laugh off third parties like it's a preposterous concept.
Though I think it's fair to say that Obama is the lesser of two evils, by a long margin.
NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.
NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.
If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.
NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.
If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.
Again, it's telling what we've become as a populace when we're debating who will do the least damage to our civil liberties and economy. When someone spends the majority of their time discrediting the opponent, it shows a lack of faith in whom they purport to support.
We really need to find some alternative fuel and power sources.
Or people could reduce their reliance on cars and get off their fat, lazy asses, and learn to walk instead?
Or use bicycles? Or improve public transport?
In my opinion, both of you are dead on correct. Thank you!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
The Deficit, the deficit!!! It's hilarious, hilarious that you guys trust these ass holes to fix the deficit after what W did, and Ryan voted for all his shit, of course. You act like it started at $0 on 1/20/09. :roll:
You're the one who constantly brings up red/blue/purple.
I guess the funny thing is the drill thing is going to happen no matter who wins. Romney would just find even more money to give away to Big Oil/Gas and get rid of the pittance that currently goes into Wind & Solar.
No, actually, it started with a surplus on 1/20/2001.
Good luck with R&R (RichieRich/RollsRoyce) at the helm, unless you're a rich white man.
I read through R&Rs energy plan for America and I have four (4) questions:
1. If and when federal lands are opened to exploitation under a R&R administration, will I get a royalty check? I'm a stakeholder and share owner as a resident and taxpayer. Do I get a check as a percentage of profits, similar to residents of Alaska receive?
2. On page 17 of R&Rs manifesto, its stated that the Chamber of Commerce states that 351 "energy projects" were "delayed" in 2010. What percentage of the total energy projects begun, started, applied, pitched, etc, does that represent?
3. Does it not concern you that the majority of "Did you know" citations are from a. Wall Street (Citibank) and b. Energy development interests?
You often say "I'm here to help" usamamsan1 and in this case I really do appreciate the humor break!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.
If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.
For someone rightly calling for intellectual honesty in that Assange thread, it's a bummer to see you apologizing for the administration that's hunting him down. You seem like a savvy dude and I would have imagined the "it could be worse" argument to be beneath you.
For someone rightly calling for intellectual honesty in that Assange thread, it's a bummer to see you apologizing for the administration that's hunting him down. You seem like a savvy dude and I would have imagined the "it could be worse" argument to be beneath you.
Except I'm not apologizing for any administration. I said they're the lesser of two evils. And as for the "it could be worse" argument being beneath me, I'd be a lot more comfortable with a U.S President that possesses a certain amount of intelligence and judiciousness, as opposed to some self-interested corporate huckster who will continue fucking this World where George W. Bush left off.
The U.S government is corrupt to it's core, regardless of who's at the helm. But it's corrupt by degrees. And if it's bad enough now under Obama then the World certainly doesn't need a dangerous jackass like Romney as President.
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Please direct me to all the sources you have for Republican ideas to fix the environment. I'll wait...
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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Did you know carbon "cap & trade" was a Republican concept. Of course they decided to oppose it once Al Gore became the publicist of global warming. :roll: And especially when BHO took office.
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work towards saving the environment? That is not a top priority at all.
I said the Democrats pretend to and make big bucks doing so ...
Statistical review finds no link between the two
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/ ... story.html
WASHINGTON — It’s the political cure-all for high gas prices: Drill here, drill now. But more US drilling has not changed how deeply the gas pump drills into your wallet, math and history show.
A statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and US domestic oil production by the Associated Press shows no statistical correlation between how much oil comes out of US wells and the price at the pump.
If more domestic oil drilling worked as politicians say, you’d now be paying about $2 a gallon for gasoline. Instead, you’re paying the highest prices ever for March.
Political rhetoric about the blame over gas prices and the power to change them — whether Republican claims now or Democrats’ charges four years ago — is not supported by cold, hard figures. And that’s especially true about oil drilling in the United States. More oil production in the United States does not mean consistently lower prices at the pump.
Sometimes prices increase as American drilling ramps up. That’s what has happened in the past three years. Since February 2009, US oil production has increased 15 percent when seasonally adjusted. Prices in those three years went from $2.07 per gallon to $3.58.
US oil production is back to the same level it was in March 2003, when gas cost $2.10 per gallon when adjusted for inflation. But that’s not what prices are now.
That’s because oil is a global commodity and US production has only a tiny influence on supply.
When you put the inflation-adjusted price of gas on the same chart as US oil production since 1976, the numbers sometimes go in the same direction, sometimes in opposite directions. If drilling for more oil meant lower prices, the lines on the chart would consistently go in opposite directions. A basic statistical measure of correlation found no link between the two.
“ ‘Drill, baby, drill’ has nothing to do with it,’’ said Judith Dwarkin, chief energy economist at ITG investment research. Two other energy economists said the same thing, and others in the field have been making that observation for decades.
The statistics directly contradict the title of GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich’s 2008 book “Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less,’’ as well as the claims from the GOP presidential candidates.
Earlier this month, GOP front-runner Mitt Romney said of his solution to higher gas prices: “I can cut through the baloney . . . and just tell him, ‘Mr. President, open up drilling in the Gulf, open up drilling in ANWR (the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge). Open up drilling in continental shelf, drill in North Dakota, drill in Oklahoma and Texas.’’’
On Wednesday, with President Obama traveling to oil and gas production fields on federal lands, Crossroads GPS, a nonprofit arm of a super PAC supporting GOP candidates, released a new ad to air in the same states he was visiting. It accused Obama of restricting oil development in America and concludes “bad energy policies mean energy prices we can’t afford.’’
The late 1980s and 1990s show exactly how domestic drilling is not related to gas prices.
Seasonally adjusted US oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago. But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s. Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly one-third. If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared. Instead they went down by nearly a dollar.
The AP analysis used Energy Department figures for regular unleaded gas prices adjusted for inflation to 2012 dollars, oil production, and oil demand. The figures go back to January 1976, the earliest the Energy Department keeps figures on unleaded gas prices. Phil Hanser, an economist and statistician at the energy consulting firm The Brattle Group; University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego; New York University statistics professor Edward Melnick; and David Peterson, a retired Duke University statistics professor, came to the same conclusion.
When US production goes up, the price of gas “is certainly not going down,’’ Melnick said. “The data does not suggest that whatsoever.’’
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.politicususa.com/drilling-fo ... n-oil.html
The Republicans for years have told the U.S. citizens that we need to drill for more oil in order to get off our dependence of foreign oil. The problem with this is idea is that all oil goes into the global market. All American oil is sold through the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
The CME brings our oil, an American natural resource, onto the global market to be sold on behalf of the corporation that drilled it. In fact, America has been exporting millions of barrels a day. In 2008 the United States exported 1.7 million barrels, up from 1.048 million in 2004 according to Index Muni.
Oil that is extracted from the United States does not stay in the United States. What drill, baby, drill does is increase the amount of oil Exxon can extract, then export and sell, period!
If we allowed every oil companies to drill wherever there was oil, without restrictions, that oil would be put onto the global market and not benefit the United States in regards to reducing oil imports.
All the Republicans want to do is increase the amount of oil Exxon can extract and sell on the global market. This is how the market works. It has nothing to do with foreign oil or funding terrorism. All it has to do with is increasing the profits of the few oil corporations, like Exxon, while destroying many acres of land, such as in Alaska.
As of 2008 the United States produced 8.6 million barrels a day, we exported 1.7 million of those barrels, and consumed 19.6 million and imported 11.3 million. If the Republicans and oily Democrats were really concerned about our dependence on foreign oil, they should be asking why American oil is being exported rather than staying here in the United States.
As this link shows, the more oil the United States drilled, the more we exported. The bottom line is drilling doesn’t take us off foreign oil, but green energy does.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The Romney Plan For A Stronger Middle Class:ENERGY INDEPENDENCE August 23, 2012
A crucial component of Mitt Romney’s Plan for a Stronger Middle Class is to dramatically increase domestic energy production and partner closely with Canada and Mexicoto achieve North American energy independence by 2020. While President Obama has described his own energy policy as a “hodgepodge,” sent billions of taxpayer dollars to green energy projects run by political cronies, rejected the Keystone XL Pipeline as not in “the nationalinterest,” and sought repeatedly to stall development of America’s domestic resources,Romney’s path forward would establish America as an energy superpower in the 21st century.
THE ROMNEY AGENDA:
Empower states to control onshore energy development;
Open offshore areas for energy development;
Pursue a North American Energy Partnership;
Ensure accurate assessment of energy resources;
Restore transparency and fairness to permitting and regulation; and
Facilitate private-sector-led development of new energy technologies.“An affordable, reliable supply of energy is crucial to America’s economic future.
I have a vision for an America that is an energy superpower, rapidly increasing our own production and partnering with our allies Canada and Mexico to achieve energy independence on this continent. If I am elected president, that vision will become a reality by the end of my second term.”
-Mitt Romney
“We have an unprecedented opportunity to make our natural resources a long -term source of competitive advantage for our nation. If we develop these resources to the fullest, we will not only guarantee ourselves an affordable and reliable supply of energy, but also enjoy benefits throughout our economy. Our trade deficit will shrink,our dollar will strengthen, and tens of billions of dollars will flow to the treasury.Perhaps most importantly, we will experience a manufacturing resurgence that delivers more jobs and more take-home pay for middle-class families across the country.” -Mitt Romney
An Achievable Goal:Energy Independence By 2020
While every President since Nixon has tried and failed to achieve this goal, analysts
across the spectrum – energy experts, investment firms, even academics at Harvard University – now recognize that surging U.S. energy production, combined with the resources of America’s neighbors, can meet all of the continent’s energy needs within a decade. The key is to embracethese resources and open access to them.Did You Know?Citigroup: “The Story Of North American ‘Energy Independence’ Is One Of Incredible Potential.”“While the story of North American ‘energy independence’ is one of incredible potential and possibilitythat could alter the geopolitical landscape from the Middle East to the Mid-Continent –public policy mightwell be the most critical factor in determining whether the current steep supply trajectory remains robust for many decades to come or if it fizzles out; trumping both technology and geology.”
Raymond James: “We Are Looking … [At] Actual Oil Independence By 2020.” “After more than threedecades of falling oil production in the lower 48 states, the U.S. is now poised to sharply increase domestic oil production and sharply decrease its dependence on imported oil…Specifically, we are looking… [at] actual oil independence by 2020.”(Raymond James U.S. Research, “Yes, Mr. President, We Believe WeCan Drill Our Way Out of This Problem,”
Manhattan Institute: “A Complete Reversal In Thinking Is Needed To Orient North America Around Hydrocarbon Abundance.”“The underlying paradigms embedded in American energy policy and regulatory structures are anchored in the idea of shortages and import dependence. A complete reversal in thinking is needed to orient North America around hydrocarbon abundance—and exports. In collaboration with Canada and Mexico, the United States could — and should—forge a broad pro-development, pro-export policy to realize the benefits of our hydrocarbon resources. Such a policy could lead to North America becoming the largest supplier of fuel to the world by 2030
Harvard Kennedy School: “The Western Hemisphere Could Return To A Pre-World War II StatusOf Theoretical Oil Self Sufficiency.”“[T]he Western Hemisphere could return to a pre-World War IIstatus of theoretical oil self-sufficiency, and the United States could dramatically reduce its oil importneeds. … [O]ver the next decades, the growing role of unconventional oils will make the Western[H]emisphere the new center of gravity of oil exploration and production
USA Today : “U.S. Energy Independence Is No Longer A Pipe Dream.” (Tim Mullaney, “U.S. Energy Independence Is No Longer A Pipe Dream,” USA Today ,5/15/12)
Bloomberg: “U.S. Energy Supplies Have Been Transformed In Less Than A Decade.” (Asjylyn Loder,“America’s Energy Seen Adding 3.6 Million Jobs Along With 3% GDP,” Bloomberg ,8/13/12)
The Result: The Emergence Of An Energy Superpower
ENERGY INDEPENDENCE HAS WIDE-RANGING BENEFITS FOR AMERICA.
• More than three million new jobs, including over one million in manufacturing;
• An economic resurgence adding more than $500 billion to GDP;
• A stronger dollar and a reduced trade deficit;• More than $1 trillion in revenue for federal, state, and local governments;
• Lower energy prices for job creators and middle-class families; and
• National security strengthened by freedom from dependence on foreign energy supplies.
A successful national energy strategy will have a fundamental influence on the well-being of the nation. An expansion in the affordable, reliable supply of domestically produced energy can bolster the competitiveness of virtually every industry within the country, creating millions of new jobs from coast to coast. With fewer energy imports and more exports of manufactured goods, America’s trade deficit will decline and the dollar will strengthen.The benefits even extend beyond immediate economic growth. The lease payments, royalties,and taxes paid to the American people in return for the development of the nation’s resources can yield literally trillions of dollars in new government revenue. Lower energy prices can ease the burdens on household budgets. And all Americans can rest assured that the nation’s security is no longer beholden to unstable but oil-rich regions half way around the world.
The Result: A Resurgence In American Manufacturing
THE IMPLICATIONS OF AMERICA’S ENERGY REVOLUTION ARE ENORMOUS.
• A long-term competitive advantage for U.S. industry thanks to lower costs; and
• Millions of new jobs upstream in the industries that supply energy producers, in the energy production process itself, and downstream in the industries from manufacturing to petrochemicals to transportation that can utilize the output. The revolution in U.S. energy production will not just expand economic opportunity within the energy industry. Upstream businesses that supply the industry will experience a surge in demand, and perhaps the greatest benefit will occur downstream as manufacturers gain access to a more affordable and reliable supply of energy and feedstock. America’s natural resources can be a long-term competitive advantage for American manufacturing and their development is the key to a reindustrialization of the U.S. economy.
The Romney Agenda: Federal Lands
EMPOWER STATES TO CONTROL ONSHORE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT.
• States will be empowered to establish processes to oversee the development and production of all forms of energy on federal lands within their borders, excluding only lands specially designated off-limits;
• State regulatory processes and permitting programs for all forms of energy development will be deemed to satisfy all requirements of federal law;
• Federal agencies will certify state processes as adequate, according to established criteria that are sufficiently broad, to afford the states maximum flexibility to ascertain what is most appropriate; and
• The federal government will encourage the formation of a State Energy DevelopmentCouncil, where states can work together along with existing organizations such asSTRONGER and the IOGCC to share expertise and best management practices.In the midst of the energy revolution taking place on state and privately-held lands across America, oil and gas production on federal lands somehow plummeted last year. This was no accident. President Obama has intentionally sought to shut down oil, gas, and coal production in pursuit of his own alternative energy agenda. Federal land open for exploration has declinednearly 20 percent on his watch, and the rate of permitting is down 37 percent. It now takes a shocking 307 days to receive the permits to drill a new well. Compare that record to what states have achieved on the land under their supervision. States have crafted highly efficient and effective permitting and regulatory programs that address state-specific needs. The state of North Dakota can permit a project in ten days. Colorado does it intwenty-seven. Nor do these processes pose any greater environmental risks. To the contrary,from oil and gas and coal to wind and solar and biofuels, states are far better able to develop,adopt, and enforce regulations based on their unique resources, geology, and local concerns
The Romney Agenda: Offshore Areas
OPEN OFFSHORE AREAS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
• Establish a new five-year offshore leasing plan that aggressively opens new areas for development beginning with those off the coast of Virginia and the Carolinas;
• Set minimum production targets for each five-year leasing plan, requiring annual reportsto Congress on progress in reaching goals and implementation of new policies to compensate for any shortfall; and
• Guarantee that state-of-the-art processes and safeguards for offshore drilling are implemented in a manner designed to support rather than block exploration and production. The Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) is a vital national resource held in trust by the federal government for the American people. Since day one, the Obama Administration has worked systematically to shut down the development of this resource. The Administration has cancelled more leases than it has held and slowed the rate of permitting by over 60 percent. As a result,offshore oil production declined 14% last year and production in the Gulf of Mexico this year will be 25 percent below what had been expected before the Obama policies took effect. Beyond the Gulf of Mexico, President Obama has stifled efforts at exploration entirely. Off the Atlantic coast, for instance, billions of barrels of oil await development and a bipartisan consensus in Virginia supports doing just that. Unfortunately, the President chose to block accessto those resources and cancel leases that had been planned in the area. Decisions made today about access to energy resources affect investment and production for decades into the future.Opening greater access and streamlining permitting will not only increase production in areas where resources have already been identified, but also speed the identification and development of new resources.
The Romney Agenda: North America
PURSUE A NORTH AMERICAN ENERGY PARTNERSHIP.
• Approve the Keystone XL pipeline;
• Establish a regional agreement to facilitate cross-border energy investment,infrastructure, and sales;
• Promote and expand regulatory cooperation between governments to encourage responsible energy production, including the creation of a forum for sharing best practices and technologies; and
• Institute fast-track regulatory approval processes for cross-border pipelines and other infrastructure. North America is the fastest-growing oil and gas producing region in the world, and the continent now has an opportunity to achieve freedom from OPEC that would not have even been contemplated just ten years ago. Unfortunately, President Obama has chosen to turn his back on America’s neighbors. He rejected the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have dramatically increased the supply of Canadian oil to the U.S. market, and now Canada plans to send that oil to China instead. Today, America still imports more oil from OPEC than it does from Canada and Mexico. As Canadian Prime Minister Harper notes, fostering a greater North American energy partnership that replaces OPEC imports with stable supply from secure sources at discounted prices should be a “no brainer.” And Mexico is now displaying a renewed interest in collaborating with outside partners to increase development of its own plentiful resources. By collaborating with these countries on energy development, America can guarantee itself areliable and affordable supply of energy while also opening up new opportunities for American businesses and workers in the region.
The Romney Agenda: Resource Evaluation
ENSURE ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF ENERGY RESOURCES.
• Approve permits for seismic surveys and exploration offshore to immediately update decades-old information;
• Require the sharing of onshore geological and geophysical information with theDepartment of the Interior;
• Undertake new seismic analysis in offshore areas not included in the new lease plan; and
• Collaborate with Canada and Mexico to ensure accurate inventory of their resources and sharing of data.Every assessment of America’s energy resources indicates tremendous potential. Yet many of these assessments are outdated, based on decades-old technology, and lacking in the data that only becomes available once development begins. President Obama has used this lack of information, coupled with confusion over the difference between “proved” reserves and recoverable resources, to argue incorrectly that America’s resources are scarce. The American people and their policy makers must have a realistic picture of the nation’s true resource abundance in order to make informed decisions about the future of American energy policy. Already, private sector exploration yields valuable public data when it occurs offshore. But in areas where no exploration is allowed to occur, conducting detailed surveys becomes all the more important. There is no excuse for placing any area so far off-limits that its potential cannot even be determined. And when exploration occurs onshore, that information should be shared to help develop the fullest possible picture of America’s energy potential.
The Romney Agenda: Regulatory Reform
RESTORE TRANSPARENCY AND FAIRNESS TO PERMITTING AND REGULATION.
• Implement measured reforms of environmental statutes and regulations to streng then environmental protection without destroying jobs, paralyzing industry, or barring the useof resources like coal;
• Improve the environmental review process by setting clear deadlines and statutes of limitations, requiring better coordination between federal agencies, and allowing state reviews to satisfy federal requirements;
• Prevent agencies from using “sue-and-settle” techniques behind closed doors to circumvent the public rulemaking process, impose onerous regulations, and tie the hands of future administrations; and
• Disclose federal funds spent reimbursing groups for lawsuits against the government. Government oversight is of course crucial to any safe and responsible development of natural resources. But statutes and regulations that were designed to protect public health and the environment have instead been seized on by environmentalists as tools to stop development altogether. President Obama’s Administration, similarly opposed to the development of the nation’s resources, has embraced this approach — going so far as to implement regulations designed to “bankrupt” the coal industry and actually being held in contempt of federal court for illegally imposing a moratorium on drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Overregulation, permitting delays, endless reviews, and senseless litigation interfere with all forms of energy production,from oil and gas drilling to nuclear and coal power generation to the construction of wind farms and solar plants. Modernizing America’s complex environmental statutes, regulations, and permitting processes is crucial to ensuring that the nation can develop its resources safely and efficiently.Laws should promote a rational approach to regulation that takes cost into account. Regulationsshould be carefully crafted to support rather than impede development. Repetitive reviews andstrategic lawsuits should not be allowed to endlessly delay progress or force the government intoimposing rules behind closed doors that it would not approve in public. Energy development, economic growth, and environmental protection can go hand-in-hand if the government focuses on transparency and fairness instead of seeking to pick winners and repay political favors.
The Romney Agenda: Innovation
FACILITATE PRIVATE-SECTOR-LED DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES.
• Focus government investment on research across the full spectrum of energy-related technologies, not on picking winners in the market;
• Support increased market penetration and competition among energy sources by maintaining the RFS and eliminating regulatory barriers to a diversification of the electrical grid, fuel system, or vehicle fleet;
• Ensure that policies for expanding energy development apply broadly to energy sources,from oil and gas exploration, to coal mining, to the siting of wind, solar, hydroelectric,and other renewable energy facilities; and
• Revitalize nuclear power by equipping the NRC to approve new designs and to license approved reactor designs on approved sites within two years.The federal government has a role to play in facilitating innovation in the energy industry.History shows that the United States has moved forward in astonishing ways thanks to investments in basic research that have produced breakthroughs to benefit entire industries.Unfortunately, President Obama’s poor understanding of the private sector has spilled directly into his energy policy, as he sought to have government play venture capitalist and spend billions of dollars subsidizing his chosen companies and technologies. Meanwhile, as companies like Solyndra were going bankrupt and the wind industry was shedding 10,000 jobs, revolutionary innovation in the private sector was paving the way for energy independence and an economic resurgence.Instead of distorting the playing field, the government should be ensuring that it remains level. The same policies that will open access to land for oil, gas, and coal development can also open access for the construction of wind, solar, and hydropower facilities. Strengthening and streamlining regulations and permitting processes will benefit the development of both traditional and alternative energy sources, and encourage the use of a diverse range of fuels including natural gas in transportation. Instead of defining success as providing enough subsidiesfor an uncompetitive technology to survive in the market, success should be defined as eliminating any barriers that might prevent the best technologies from succeeding on their own.
Isn't this the rally cry of the Juggalos?
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So, the GOP has no intention of even admitting that there are environmental problems that need fixing. Would you agree?
It's a major plank of the Democratic Party to improve environmental conditions. The increases in our wind & solar power generation over the past 3.5 years are not pretend, as you like to say.
In fact my local State Representative has a great record on environmental issues, to give you one example: http://www.pahouse.com/Vitali/ I guess all that stuff is just pretend though. :roll: That poison water people get after shale drilling occurs must be pretend as well.
I am nearly a single issue voter, with this being the single issue. Other things also matter to me. Just nothing anywhere near important to me as this issue, and I know a lot about it. The reason it's important to me is that I have children that could reasonable be expected to live until about 2100 and I want them to have a nice world to live in. Obama has done at least some things towards that end. Romney will do NOTHING to help the situation, I think it's fairly clear.
And obviously you didn't answer my question and just changed the subject.
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if ever,
I was quite upfront in saying it is not a priority
for the GOP which is correct. Our military would be and that is a priority
for me as well.
My comment really stems from the nonprofits ...
done some research on where the money goes and does not go.
It could make a buddy sick really. So may generous people giving to the environment
just lining the pockets of the rich.
Yes the alternate energy that was to make so many new jobs
and repair the economy too.
Good idea maybe but it's not helping fast enough.
Who is making dollars on the increase in the wind and solar power companies
that have had an increase in he last 3.5 years?
Who invests in those companies? Besides our own tax dollars ...
I will research.... perhaps our Democratic representatives.
Its very odd don't you think, how the problems of the our country
have strategically split between red and blue....
and not much gets done.
As far as the children of the future ... how bout that deficit?
true that!
Romeny's energy plan is going to help there too. CAN'T WAIT!
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
You're the one who constantly brings up red/blue/purple.
I guess the funny thing is the drill thing is going to happen no matter who wins. Romney would just find even more money to give away to Big Oil/Gas and get rid of the pittance that currently goes into Wind & Solar.
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NDAA, renewal of Patriot Act, Guantanamo still open, tripling of troops in Afghanistan upon taking office, $5 trillion added to the debt, no support in auditing the Federal Reserve, pursuit of Julian Assange/detention of Bradley Manning, raids on marijuana dispensaries, assassination of an American citizen, expansive use of drone program in the Middle East and domestically, voted for the bank bailouts as a Senator, etc.
"The lesser of two evils is still evil."
Johnson/Gray 2012
If you think that's bad, then wait and see what goes down if Romney's elected. Or you could just engage your memory for a second and think about all the damage done to America and many others countries under George W. Bush.
Again, it's telling what we've become as a populace when we're debating who will do the least damage to our civil liberties and economy. When someone spends the majority of their time discrediting the opponent, it shows a lack of faith in whom they purport to support.
Or people could reduce their reliance on cars and get off their fat, lazy asses, and learn to walk instead?
Or use bicycles? Or improve public transport?
In my opinion, both of you are dead on correct. Thank you!
No, actually, it started with a surplus on 1/20/2001.
Good luck with R&R (RichieRich/RollsRoyce) at the helm, unless you're a rich white man.
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Well, sure. That's all important too.
http://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/f ... r_8.23.pdf
I read through R&Rs energy plan for America and I have four (4) questions:
1. If and when federal lands are opened to exploitation under a R&R administration, will I get a royalty check? I'm a stakeholder and share owner as a resident and taxpayer. Do I get a check as a percentage of profits, similar to residents of Alaska receive?
2. On page 17 of R&Rs manifesto, its stated that the Chamber of Commerce states that 351 "energy projects" were "delayed" in 2010. What percentage of the total energy projects begun, started, applied, pitched, etc, does that represent?
3. Does it not concern you that the majority of "Did you know" citations are from a. Wall Street (Citibank) and b. Energy development interests?
4. What happens after 2020 and in twenty years?
I'm interested in your astute answers.
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You often say "I'm here to help" usamamsan1 and in this case I really do appreciate the humor break!
For someone rightly calling for intellectual honesty in that Assange thread, it's a bummer to see you apologizing for the administration that's hunting him down. You seem like a savvy dude and I would have imagined the "it could be worse" argument to be beneath you.
Except I'm not apologizing for any administration. I said they're the lesser of two evils. And as for the "it could be worse" argument being beneath me, I'd be a lot more comfortable with a U.S President that possesses a certain amount of intelligence and judiciousness, as opposed to some self-interested corporate huckster who will continue fucking this World where George W. Bush left off.
The U.S government is corrupt to it's core, regardless of who's at the helm. But it's corrupt by degrees. And if it's bad enough now under Obama then the World certainly doesn't need a dangerous jackass like Romney as President.