Mike Huckabee: Rapes Have Created Amazing People!

Prince Of Dorkness

Mike Huckabee, still high from his successful demonstration at Chick Fil A, celebrated the great things that forcible rape has brought to America.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 6008.story

A long supporter of rape and removing the rights of anyone who isn't a fat, white, Chrsitian, heterosexual blowhard such as himself, Huckabee quadruple bi-passed down on Todd Akin's comments that rape isn't such a bad thing since it has created some amazing people.

And it seems the more forcible the rape, the more amazing the forcible tape babies are!!

Ladies and gentlemen... I give you... the Republican Party:

“Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape,” Huckabee said of the late American gospel singer. One-time presidential candidate Huckabee added: “I used to work for James Robison back in the 1970s, he leads a large Christian organization. He, himself, was the result of a forcible rape. And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things.”

To prove his point, Huckabee plans to forcibly rape a woman at the republican convention next month and force her to carry the offspring to term to in a generation, we can see what amazing results can come from... That.

cincybearcat

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Mike Huckabee, still high from his successful demonstration at Chick Fil A, celebrated the great things that forcible rape has brought to America.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 6008.story

A long supporter of rape and removing the rights of anyone who isn't a fat, white, Chrsitian, heterosexual blowhard such as himself, Huckabee quadruple bi-passed down on Todd Akin's comments that rape isn't such a bad thing since it has created some amazing people.

And it seems the more forcible the rape, the more amazing the forcible tape babies are!!

Ladies and gentlemen... I give you... the Republican Party:

“Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape,” Huckabee said of the late American gospel singer. One-time presidential candidate Huckabee added: “I used to work for James Robison back in the 1970s, he leads a large Christian organization. He, himself, was the result of a forcible rape. And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things.”

To prove his point, Huckabee plans to forcibly rape a woman at the republican convention next month and force her to carry the offspring to term to in a generation, we can see what amazing results can come from... That.

Talk about some spin. That article is a joke. And a bad one, because its not even funny in the slightest.

Johnny Abruzzo

The bottom line is that it's clear Akin's views are fairly in line with, or not all that far off from, most of the Republican Party (especially Paul Ryan), and apparently, many of the right-leaning posters in this forum.

hedonist

Wow.

comebackgirl

How is this even possible. I thought the mother's body was supposed to
"shut that whole thing down". :?

Johnny Abruzzo

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-repugnant-code-behind-todd-akins-words/2012/08/20/7e91ed12-eb08-11e1-a80b-9f898562d010_story.html?hpid=z4

Earlier this year, every House Republican and 16 Democrats voted for a bill that would have rewritten the rape exception in federal abortion funding bans by inserting the phrase “forcible rape,” words eerily similar to Mr. Akin’s notion of “legitimate rape.” Among the 227 co-sponsors was Rep. Paul Ryan, now Mitt Romney’s running mate. The bill never made it to the Senate floor; let’s hope the same will be said for Mr. Akin and his unacceptable views.

BinauralJam

Like this guy

cincybearcat

BinauralJam wrote:

Like this guy

Yep, that guy sure used abortion to kill of people too.

brianlux

What the hell is Huckabee's point anyway? Sheesh. Talk about trolls!

DriftingByTheStorm

brianlux wrote:

What the hell is Huckabee's point anyway? Sheesh. Talk about trolls!

The point which ya'll seem to be missing is pretty simple actually.
Instead of terminating a pregnancy from a rape out of fear, or anger, or negative emotions ... you could transmute your pain and raise a beautiful child, instead of ending it's life.
After all, the child isn't to blame.

And please, i don't need anyone to turn this back on me or give me "medical issue" whatifs.

Someone asked what his point was.
I am continually amazed at how deliberately obtuse people can be to relatively simple points.

I know this is more or less a place of Republican Hate,
but don't let loyalty to one party let you come off just as ignorant as you believe those of the party you loathe to be.

That article is a crass perversion of the sentiment that Huckabee was trying to present, which is, quite simply, "ALL life is precious". Terminating a child because he is the product of a rape is arguably as selfish an act as that of the raper. (and here is a fitting place to end and await the flames)
[none of this really directed at you, brianlux, just to the general inability of those here to comprehend the comments as intended]

brianlux

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

brianlux wrote:

What the hell is Huckabee's point anyway? Sheesh. Talk about trolls!

The point which ya'll seem to be missing is pretty simple actually.
Instead of terminating a pregnancy from a rape out of fear, or anger, or negative emotions ... you could transmute your pain and raise a beautiful child, instead of ending it's life.
After all, the child isn't to blame.

And please, i don't need anyone to turn this back on me or give me "medical issue" whatifs.

Someone asked what his point was.
I am continually amazed at how deliberately obtuse people can be to relatively simple points.

I know this is more or less a place of Republican Hate,
but don't let loyalty to one party let you come off just as ignorant as you believe those of the party you loathe to be.

That article is a crass perversion of the sentiment that Huckabee was trying to present, which is, quite simply, "ALL life is precious". Terminating a child because he is the product of a rape is arguably as selfish an act as that of the raper. (and here is a fitting place to end and await the flames)
[none of this really directed at you, brianlux, just to the general inability of those here to comprehend the comments as intended]

I totally get your point, Drifting. I guess to my way of thinking I'd rather celebrate the wonderful people rather than make an issue of how they came about as none of us has a choice in that. So I guess the question of his intent does enter my mind.

Zoso

it's obama's fault :roll:


yesterday I was thinking.. what is that asshole bigot huckabee going to say.. I knew he was going to be just as terrible as akin himself. Republican party in 2012 are ridiculous. Absolute joke.

Zoso

why can't Huckabee just do as Romney did and say that akin's comments were wrong and move the fuck on.. why are we going into everything about rape etc etc... it just leaves more extreme right assholes to make their ill informed comments.

Johnny Abruzzo

Zoso wrote:

why can't Huckabee just do as Romney did and say that akin's comments were wrong and move the fuck on.. why are we going into everything about rape etc etc... it just leaves more extreme right assholes to make their ill informed comments.

He's just being honest. This is how these guys really feel. You can see it in the reax here from several Pearl Jam fans. This is what these people stand for. They do not want women impregnated by way of rape to have the right to terminate their pregnancy. It's right there in the GOP Platform for all to see, it's in their votes in Congress. I don't blame them for speaking their mind and telling us how they feel. In fact I'm glad that they've made it obvious for all to see.

know1

I think Huckabee should have kept quiet and not attempted to justify Akin.

That being said, if you take your own emotion out of your evaluation, is what Huckabee said so terrible? He's basically legitimizing the lives of those that have come out of the tragedy of rape.

Would you rather he said that only terrible people have come from rapes? Regardless of the circumstances of their conception, they are still people after all.

pandora

Speaking of amazing people, again a couple common sense amazing stars here for sure,
bravo!
amazing people come from love, how they were conceived can hinder that love,
it remains the choice of Mom ...
but given a chance she might really love to be called that
and I bet in the long run would not regret the choice to be one.

inlet13

Liberal elites (including the media) + Republican NeoCons (including Huckabee) = Deflection from real issues that could actually be solved

It's ironic how most folks here fall completely into one of the two camps.

Johnny Abruzzo

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

He's just being honest. This is how these guys really feel. You can see it in the reax here from several Pearl Jam fans. This is what these people stand for. They do not want women impregnated by way of rape to have the right to terminate their pregnancy. It's right there in the GOP Platform for all to see, it's in their votes in Congress. I don't blame them for speaking their mind and telling us how they feel. In fact I'm glad that they've made it obvious for all to see.

know1 wrote:

I think Huckabee should have kept quiet and not attempted to justify Akin.

That being said, if you take your own emotion out of your evaluation, is what Huckabee said so terrible? He's basically legitimizing the lives of those that have come out of the tragedy of rape.

Would you rather he said that only terrible people have come from rapes? Regardless of the circumstances of their conception, they are still people after all.

And here you go, somebody promptly proving my point. It's fine that you feel that way on the issue. Akin talked about it in a stupid awkward way, but he is accurately representing the view of the Republican Party.

I'm not being emotional - these are facts.

Johnny Abruzzo

pandora wrote:

it remains the choice of Mom ...

No, it is not. Not according to the Official Republican National Convention Platform. It's in plain black & white for everyone to read.

hedonist

Drifting and know1, well said, both of you.

I've only skimmed that other thread, but I did see a post there from a young woman who, by her own words, is a product of rape. Her words struck me as those spoken by someone introspective about her path thus far, and happy to be alive.

For me, it was a bittersweet highlight of that thread.

Zoso

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Zoso wrote:

why can't Huckabee just do as Romney did and say that akin's comments were wrong and move the fuck on.. why are we going into everything about rape etc etc... it just leaves more extreme right assholes to make their ill informed comments.

He's just being honest. This is how these guys really feel. You can see it in the reax here from several Pearl Jam fans. This is what these people stand for. They do not want women impregnated by way of rape to have the right to terminate their pregnancy. It's right there in the GOP Platform for all to see, it's in their votes in Congress. I don't blame them for speaking their mind and telling us how they feel. In fact I'm glad that they've made it obvious for all to see.

agreed.. they have made it pretty blunt this year. I hope people vote accordingly.

comebackgirl

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

brianlux wrote:

What the hell is Huckabee's point anyway? Sheesh. Talk about trolls!

The point which ya'll seem to be missing is pretty simple actually.
Instead of terminating a pregnancy from a rape out of fear, or anger, or negative emotions ... you could transmute your pain and raise a beautiful child, instead of ending it's life.
After all, the child isn't to blame.

]

I understand your point about abortion, but trauma recovery really isn't this simple. Recovery is different for everyone and some people never heal. I think it's important for women to have the choice rather than forcing them into something that could be a re-victimization. They shouldn't be punished either nor made to feel guilty or selfish if their healing doesn't happen the way some think it should. A fetus is impacted by the ongoing trauma of the mother just as she is. If a woman has the choice to continue the pregnancy she may be able to recover in the manner you mentioned, but take that choice away and mom and child may both still be victims.

josevolution

Man just when you think you have heard the most absurd rethoric from the GOP , comes this i can't wait for tomorrow ...

Go Beavers

inlet13 wrote:

Liberal elites (including the media) + Republican NeoCons (including Huckabee) = Deflection from real issues that could actually be solved

It's ironic how most folks here fall completely into one of the two camps.

It is too bad that anti-abortion people keep working on taking away an individuals choice. Abortion is legal, let's move on, folks!

Jason P

inlet13 wrote:

Liberal elites (including the media) + Republican NeoCons (including Huckabee) = Deflection from real issues that could actually be solved

It's ironic how most folks here fall completely into one of the two camps.

Yeah, to bad we don't get worked up this much over the fact that not only are we broke, we are still digging the debt hole ... and neither candidate has a plan to fix it. :(

inlet13

Jason P wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

Liberal elites (including the media) + Republican NeoCons (including Huckabee) = Deflection from real issues that could actually be solved

It's ironic how most folks here fall completely into one of the two camps.

Yeah, to bad we don't get worked up this much over the fact that not only are we broke, we are still digging the debt hole ... and neither candidate has a plan to fix it. :(

THIS.

We got to discuss about semantical arguments on what if questions and of course, Chick-fil-A's CEOs thoughts on gay marriage instead and a Georgetown law-student's need for free contraception...

...these issues are more important than the millions without jobs.

know1

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

He's just being honest. This is how these guys really feel. You can see it in the reax here from several Pearl Jam fans. This is what these people stand for. They do not want women impregnated by way of rape to have the right to terminate their pregnancy. It's right there in the GOP Platform for all to see, it's in their votes in Congress. I don't blame them for speaking their mind and telling us how they feel. In fact I'm glad that they've made it obvious for all to see.

know1 wrote:

I think Huckabee should have kept quiet and not attempted to justify Akin.

That being said, if you take your own emotion out of your evaluation, is what Huckabee said so terrible? He's basically legitimizing the lives of those that have come out of the tragedy of rape.

Would you rather he said that only terrible people have come from rapes? Regardless of the circumstances of their conception, they are still people after all.

And here you go, somebody promptly proving my point. It's fine that you feel that way on the issue. Akin talked about it in a stupid awkward way, but he is accurately representing the view of the Republican Party.

I'm not being emotional - these are facts.

Why don't you answer my question, though. Huckabee said good people can come from rape. Do you dispute that?

brianlux

inlet13 wrote:

Liberal elites (including the media) + Republican NeoCons (including Huckabee) = Deflection from real issues that could actually be solved

It's ironic how most folks here fall completely into one of the two camps.

Inlet, if I'm reading this correctly, your post is saying you believe it better to be balanced, or moderate, or something along those lines but referring to liberals as "elite" kind of skews your idea here (unless "Neocon" is also meant to be derogatory) and implies a bias towards one of those two camps (the right, obviously). This could be seen as upping the irony you refer to a bit.

I do agree, as I said earlier, that these kinds of stories are a distraction from more pressing issues which we both agree should be more the focus. But look who is spending time and energy posting here- both of us.

We're all Bozos on this Bus.

Prince Of Dorkness

pandora wrote:

it remains the choice of Mom ...

and the only reason that it remains the choice of the mom is that Democrats and independents have fought to keep abortions legal and accessible to women.

If people like Akin and Ryan and Romney and Huckabee get their way the mom will have no choice but to carry a baby, even if will be born with severe brain damage, no lungs, no brain, vital organs on the outside or with two heads. Or dead.

Prince Of Dorkness

And the "turn lemons into lemonade" answer is very similar to what police used to tell women who were complaining about a stalker: "Well, maybe he likes you. Why don't you give him a chance? You might hit it off... I mean, you're single."

The fact that people would defend a comment like this is disgusting.

While he's right... there ARE some amazing people out there who were the product of "forcible" or "legitimate" rape, that's not a good reason to make abortion illegal.

brianlux

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

And the "turn lemons into lemonade" answer is very similar to what police used to tell women who were complaining about a stalker: "Well, maybe he likes you. Why don't you give him a chance? You might hit it off... I mean, you're single."

The fact that people would defend a comment like this is disgusting.

While he's right... there ARE some amazing people out there who were the product of "forcible" or "legitimate" rape, that's not a good reason to make abortion illegal.

I hear that "turn lemons into lemonade" all the time and I say, if the lemons are poison they'll kill you either way.