PJ to play corporate Oracle Convention

Jason P

cincybearcat wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

stone?

Hahaha, do you really think the GAP would want Stone in an ad? That's some funny shit!!!!

So the GAP still exists?

Man, it has been many years since I've had to walk into a mall.

Godfather.

at the end of the day the money is still green and I don't care who sez what..the bottom line is always the money,PJ is a business and business's run and thrive on money right ? no harm done !
this band has been around for 20 + years..right ? it takes more than good music to stay on top with a pocket full of cash.

Godfather.

JonnyPistachio

lukin2006 wrote:

If your going to be a sellout just don't preach about greedy corporations or CEO'S or what not.

This is why I'd be surprised if they are doing it solely for money. I won't jump to judgement because I dont know the inner workings of the band and their business. They could easily make the same money doing this gig as doing other shows...so maybe they owe someone a favor or they have other reasons. We dont know, so we should just stick to the music and stop judging just because our first impression is that it goes against their principles.

gimmesometruth27

to echo what JP said, they played the singles party as a favor to cameron crowe. maybe they know someone at oracle? maybe they are going to play that show and then just donate the proceeds? the bottom line is we don't know, so we should reserve judgement. but like i said, it's their band not mine or yours. they can do what they want.

mikepegg44

JonnyPistachio wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

If your going to be a sellout just don't preach about greedy corporations or CEO'S or what not.

This is why I'd be surprised if they are doing it solely for money. I won't jump to judgement because I dont know the inner workings of the band and their business. They could easily make the same money doing this gig as doing other shows...so maybe they owe someone a favor or they have other reasons. We dont know, so we should just stick to the music and stop judging just because our first impression is that it goes against their principles.

that's not how it works...jump to the worst conclusion possible immediately or don't come on this message board again

cincybearcat

Who set the standard, born to be rich?
Such fine examples, skinny little bitch
Model, role model, roll some models in blood
Get some flesh to stick, so they MARRY us!!!

This isn't the first time. Hahahaha. Things change. I have no problem with them getting $ so they can pay their people well and continue to take off 10 months a year. I just wish they toured the US those other 2 months!!!!

JonnyPistachio

mikepegg44 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

If your going to be a sellout just don't preach about greedy corporations or CEO'S or what not.

This is why I'd be surprised if they are doing it solely for money. I won't jump to judgement because I dont know the inner workings of the band and their business. They could easily make the same money doing this gig as doing other shows...so maybe they owe someone a favor or they have other reasons. We dont know, so we should just stick to the music and stop judging just because our first impression is that it goes against their principles.

that's not how it works...jump to the worst conclusion possible immediately or don't come on this message board again

Oh yeah, what I meant was, goddamn Eddie is so greedy! Can I stay? Damn, now I'm a hypocrite too. :fp:

mikepegg44

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Oh yeah, what I meant was, goddamn Eddie is so greedy! Can I stay? Damn, now I'm a hypocrite too. :fp:

it is a vicious circle

lukin2006

mikepegg44 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

If your going to be a sellout just don't preach about greedy corporations or CEO'S or what not.

This is why I'd be surprised if they are doing it solely for money. I won't jump to judgement because I dont know the inner workings of the band and their business. They could easily make the same money doing this gig as doing other shows...so maybe they owe someone a favor or they have other reasons. We dont know, so we should just stick to the music and stop judging just because our first impression is that it goes against their principles.

that's not how it works...jump to the worst conclusion possible immediately or don't come on this message board again

Of all the concerts I've been to I've really only heard them bitch and man politics...even the politics hasn't been overbearing. I guess I don't know what to make of it...won't stop me from listening to there music or seeing them in concert that's for sure.

Jeanwah

Ya gotta admire Adam Yauch after hearing about all this.

Beastie Boys star Adam Yauch's will bans use of his music in advertising
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/au ... dvertising

I think we can agree that we don't know why PJ does what it does and even if the money goes to charity or whatnot, I don't think it's anyone's business but theirs. But I can't help but admire what Yauch and the other Beastie Boys have done regarding corporate use of their music.

hrd2imagin

I was at OpenWorld in 2009. It was a wild party. This event was HUGE. OpenWorld has an attendance over 40,000 people every year. At the appreciation event at the Cow Palace, they have 3 or 4 stages set up with open bars and free booze everywhere. Lots of cool cover bands, Joan Jett and Blondie were there, and Elton John was the headliner. Everyone was hammered and having a great time. That party must have cost 10's of millions of dollars to put on. It's ridiculous and awesome.

Makes me mad that I no longer work with Oracle. As far as corporate gigs go, this is the biggest and best party you can imagine. I'm sure Oracle is giving PJ a crap-ton of $$$ to play this show. PJ is first and foremost entertainers, and Oracle is paying them to do what they do best... put on the best show at the best party.

I dont see this as a Pearl Jam endorsement of Oracle, just the band getting a big payday for doing what they've spent their lives trying to do best.

chadwick

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Well I re-upped my membership yesterday so I could keep talking to you clowns.

that's why i do it every year. i made friend here and we love the music.

Cliffy6745

hrd2imagin wrote:

I was at OpenWorld in 2009. It was a wild party. This event was HUGE. OpenWorld has an attendance over 40,000 people every year. At the appreciation event at the Cow Palace, they have 3 or 4 stages set up with open bars and free booze everywhere. Lots of cool cover bands, Joan Jett and Blondie were there, and Elton John was the headliner. Everyone was hammered and having a great time. That party must have cost 10's of millions of dollars to put on. It's ridiculous and awesome.

Makes me mad that I no longer work with Oracle. As far as corporate gigs go, this is the biggest and best party you can imagine. I'm sure Oracle is giving PJ a crap-ton of $$$ to play this show. PJ is first and foremost entertainers, and Oracle is paying them to do what they do best... put on the best show at the best party.

I dont see this as a Pearl Jam endorsement of Oracle, just the band getting a big payday for doing what they've spent their lives trying to do best.

All I take from this is that Elton John is a sell out.

chadwick

who the fuck is oracle?

JOEJOEJOE

Depending on your rationale, this is a good way to transfer money from a huge corporation to a group of people who will hopefully put some of the money to good use.

Smellyman

outch. This one stings a bit.

Larry Ellison is a lunatic and Oracle loves to just sue the crap out of companies. They really stifle innovation now.

Their purchase of Sun was just their license to sue anyone in their path.

Godfather.

this place is funny people kick down people and issues that don't fit into the ....."free willy" way of thinking on here but soon as PJ does something that has been aginest the popular way of thinking on the train all the sudden "there must be a reason"

the reason is money or politics...or both, they are a band and a great band at that so lets just enjoy the music and stop living thru someone elses visions and achievments, it so much eassier that way.

Godfather.

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

who the fuck is oracle?

sounds like they are the bad guy's..why ? because they have money lawyers and power and now they have PJ

Godfather.

Jason P

Cliffy6745 wrote:

All I take from this is that Elton John is a sell out.

Of the highest nature ... he performed at Rush Limbaugh's wedding!

lukin2006

Jason P wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

All I take from this is that Elton John is a sell out.

Of the highest nature ... he performed at Rush Limbaugh's wedding!

I doubt Rush Limbaugh is any worse than the CEO of Oracle...except Rush is a Rebublican and I think Oracle's CEO is a democrate. How many of Oracles jobs have been outsourced over seas and how many jobs has Rush outsourced.

The thing people should take out of this is that PJ has no credibility if they bitch and moan about greedy corporations or CEO's, just like their politics they long ago had no credibility with me about politics.

They are just a rock band nothing more, nothing less. They love money, they have a certain lifestyle to maintain, they have found a way too maintain that lifestyle with as little work as possible...we just have live with it.