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DS1119

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Didn't answer the slavery question

Slavery ran it's course cut and dried. The country needed skilled labor, not unskilled labor.

Cliffy6745

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Didn't answer the slavery question

Slavery ran it's course cut and dried. The country needed skilled labor, not unskilled labor.

So owning slaves is moral and okay to you if the country needs it?

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

BECAUSE THEY ARE PEOPLE


Fuck

And so am I ....and the people who are against gay marriage. Why should we have our wallets impacted? No benefit to us. SO why vote for it.

Your wallet is an inanimate object and therefore has no rights. Tell me how your PERSONHOOD is impacted, not your wallet.

Becasue when my wallet is impacted my livelihood or personhood is impacted. My life is far better with $800 dollars in my wallet than with $600 in my wallet. I can buy more things for myself and the people I care about. I also have more money to donate to charities of which I choose if I want.

DS1119

Cliffy6745 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Didn't answer the slavery question

Slavery ran it's course cut and dried. The country needed skilled labor, not unskilled labor.

So owning slaves is moral and okay to you if the country needs it?

The US certainly didn't invent it.

Cliffy6745

DS1119 wrote:

The US certainly didn't invent it.

So if the country could use slavery, it is okay? I didn't ask who invented it, I asked if it was okay to you, which you already implied.

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

And so am I ....and the people who are against gay marriage. Why should we have our wallets impacted? No benefit to us. SO why vote for it.

Your wallet is an inanimate object and therefore has no rights. Tell me how your PERSONHOOD is impacted, not your wallet.

Becasue when my wallet is impacted my livelihood or personhood is impacted. My life is far better with $800 dollars in my wallet than with $600 in my wallet. I can buy more things for myself and the people I care about. I also have more money to donate to charities of which I choose if I want.

So it doesn't impact your personhood. I didn't think so.

DS1119

Cliffy6745 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

The US certainly didn't invent it.

So if the country could use slavery, it is okay? I didn't ask who invented it, I asked if it was okay to you, which you already implied.

This great country and many others were built on slavery correct?

Cliffy6745

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

The US certainly didn't invent it.

So if the country could use slavery, it is okay? I didn't ask who invented it, I asked if it was okay to you, which you already implied.

This great country and many others were built on slavery correct?

So you're saying slavery can be acceptable? A simple yes or no. You can do it big guy.

ComeToTX

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Didn't answer the slavery question

Slavery ran it's course cut and dried. The country needed skilled labor, not unskilled labor.

Not really true. Our country has always needed and used unskilled labor. Who do you think picks all the vegetables we grow for well below minimum wage? Who builds our houses?

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

So it doesn't impact your personhood. I didn't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personhood


Considering the definition of the actual meaning of the word personhood is controversial, I would like to hear what you define personhood as being and then I can tell you if it impacts me based on your definition. :corn:

DS1119

Cliffy6745 wrote:

So you're saying slavery can be acceptable? A simple yes or no. You can do it big guy.

How do you feel? Do you like this country? :corn:


But to answer your question, no great society has ever been built without slavery.

Johnny Abruzzo

ComeToTX wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Didn't answer the slavery question

Slavery ran it's course cut and dried. The country needed skilled labor, not unskilled labor.

Not really true. Our country has always needed and used unskilled labor. Who do you think picks all the vegetables we grow for well below minimum wage? Who builds our houses?

Slavery was at its peak in 1860 and was being expanded into the new territories. It was destroyed with military force and by constitutional amendment. History FAIL. Try again.

comebackgirl

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

So it doesn't impact your personhood. I didn't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personhood


Considering the definition of the actual meaning of the word personhood is controversial, I would like to hear what you define personhood as being and then I can tell you if it impacts me based on your definition. :corn:

I'm not talking about the controversial aspect of it when it comes to abortion rights. Save that for another thread.

DS1119

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Slavery was at its peak in 1860 and was being expanded into the new territories. It was destroyed with military force and by constitutional amendment. History FAIL. Try again.

And you failed to mention the lack of need for slave labor in the northern states along with the southern dependance on it...also you failed to mention the other power struggles going on between the norhtern and southern states at the time. It was a huge chess match and the slavery issue was just a pawn in the giant game.

DS1119

comebackgirl wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

So it doesn't impact your personhood. I didn't think so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personhood


Considering the definition of the actual meaning of the word personhood is controversial, I would like to hear what you define personhood as being and then I can tell you if it impacts me based on your definition. :corn:

I'm not talking about the controversial aspect of it when it comes to abortion rights. Save that for another thread.

So give me your definition of it so I can c :corn: omment.

JonnyPistachio

DS1119 wrote:

Pro gay marriage has nothing to do with equality, it's all about economics and money.

:fp:
This sentence alone represents an inability to comprehend the subject, and this debate will, not surprisingly, go absolutely nowhere. Ever. But it is comical and sad at the same time.

I think I know who would be pushing, like George Costanza, to get out of a crowded room in a fire.

Cliffy6745

DS1119 wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

So you're saying slavery can be acceptable? A simple yes or no. You can do it big guy.

How do you feel? Do you like this country? :corn:

I love most things about this country. I love where I live, I love my family, I love that I am able to make the living that I do, I love the sports. I love the freedom of speech and especially the press. I could go on and on.

I don't like the inequality, I don't like the bigotry, I don't like that our government can't accomplish a damn thing without arguing like 4 year olds. I don't like that there are so many in this country that don't give a shit about the environment. I could go on and on about this as well.

It's a great place with a lot of faults.

None of that has anything to do with slavery. Now answer the question. Can slavery be acceptable?

Prince Of Dorkness

And we now see the absurd lengths to which the "supporting traditional marriage" crowd will go to to avoid having to say "because I think what you guys do is icky."

JonnyPistachio

DS1119 wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

And also as far as the 4% question...if it impacts my wallet at all and it doesn't benefit me...I don;t care about it to be quite frank.

Well, gotta give you props for being honest.
Honestly selfish.

DS1119 wrote:

We all have a voice in this country and let evryone;s be heard...but the majority will and always has ruled.

You mean like how Bush didnt get the majority of the popular votes in 2000?

First point...just brutally honest.


Second point...you don't like the system get it changed. That's the beautiful thing with the AMerican system is you may have a fight, but it can and has changed.

I was just pointing out that even in the most extreme cases, the majority doesnt always rule. Now, in the case of gay marriage and equality, I think they are making progress, even as a extreme minority. Hold onto your panties too, I'll bet that in the near future, gay marriage will be universally accepted by law, and the minority will have won.

JonnyPistachio

DS1119 wrote:

Becasue when my wallet is impacted my livelihood or personhood is impacted. My life is far better with $800 dollars in my wallet than with $600 in my wallet. I can buy more things for myself and the people I care about. I also have more money to donate to charities of which I choose if I want.

Time to give Fight Club a viewing! :corn: