I guess I'll just remind everyone that Ryan hasn't only voted against same-sex marriage. He's voted against every single piece of proposed legislation relating to gay rights that's been put in front of him.
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That isnsurance costs don't rise with same sex marriage.
insurance costs rise due to people with bad lifestyle choices like diet and smoking ... i don't see a full out ban of fast food ... start doing that - peeps start crying about freedom ... but apparently that freedom to choose who they want to marry doesn't count for gay people ...
I guess I'll just remind everyone that Ryan hasn't only voted against same-sex marriage. He's voted against every single piece of proposed legislation relating to gay rights that's been put in front of him.
Well, that's just it. It's not just marriage we're talking about but keeping people from being fired for their sexual orientation. Keeping people out of the military, keeping parents from having access to their children.
Keeping it legal to bully kids so long as you're doing it because god would have wanted it that way.
There are way too many assumptions here to even comment. Part of the propaganda machine.
I'm not asking for attention...just putting my viewpoint out there. If people are allowed to voice their opinions on a public forum...so am I. If people don;t want responses...don't post here. Unfortunately I can't do something as dramatic as swallowing a hot dog whole so I'll just stick with the facts.
you mean your opinion.
Ha, yeah, science would be the facts. Something he doesn't agree with.[/quote]
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That isnsurance costs don't rise with same sex marriage.
your ins co say that? hmm? post the letter stating they would do that?
please, tell me how they would?
Do insurance companies not pay out more money to an estate who has spousal benefits? Does an insurance company not pay out more to a person who is single vs. being married and having a spouse on the policy? Where does the money come from? They don't grow it. It comes from premiums. Don't even get me started on SOcial Security or Veteran benefits. :fp:
I know you have been ignoring me. You can't justify any of the BS that you have been posting.
yeah I can inderstand what you mean. Ask a question and it gets ignored.
I suggest you do a search of this forum if you don;t know what I mean. If you still can't find it I'd be glad to PM you a link. Talk about attention seeking. :fp:
That isnsurance costs don't rise with same sex marriage.
your ins co say that? hmm? post the letter stating they would do that?
please, tell me how they would?
Do insurance companies not pay out more money to an estate who has spousal benefits? Does an insurance company not pay out more to a person who is single vs. being married and having a spouse on the policy? Where does the money come from? They don't grow it. It comes from premiums. Don't even get me started on SOcial Security or Veteran benefits. :fp:
well, that would depend entirely on what that particular policy pays out as a death benefit. Now wouldnt it. No matter if was a single or a joint policy.
Besides its only another 4% of the population right? How many of those would actually get married. or want to? or find that someone. and not have them leave them for someone or something else?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
My husband and I have been together for over 20 years. We actually talked about the first pearl jam album on our first date. We had tex mex and I spilled salsa all over the table. I digress.
While we don't care about or need the approval of anyone who doesn't "agree" with our union (I've never understood what they mean by "agree"), I've told many stories of how legally we need the same recognition. I was offered a great job last year in another city and had to turn it down... My husband is Canadian and on a T1 Visa, meaning that if he doesn't have a job he has 8 days to leave the country. While we could have afforded to move to the new city and have him look for work when we got here, legally... That's not allowed.
If we were an opposite-sex couple I could have sponsored him for a green card and citizenship. He'd be a full American by now.
When he was in his motorcycle accident a couple years ago, I was the one who rushed to the hospital to be with him, had he been unconscious, I should be his legal power of attorney and make care decisions for him. But instead it would have been the doctors who did that.
(on the subject of costing more money... Not true. He was unable to work or care for himself and I was given the time off of work so I could stay home, cook for him, pick him up out of bed and get him to the bathroom and shower him. Had he not had me, his insurance would have covered home care at an extremely high rate, my rate was "free.")
Btw... Had he been unconscious or died in the accident, legally nobody would even be obligated to call me and tell me and I wouldn't have any legal rights over his money or his belongings. I'd be a legal stranger.
Not sure how keeping these protections from us "supports traditional marriage," but it sure does make the Brian Browns of the world feel superior.
My ex-hairdresser is going through something similar with his husband; I feel for them. It shouldn't be such an arduous and seemingly-futile process.
As to the the legal aspect, can he not assign you power of attorney and vice versa? Draw up a will?
(third time asking this - not sure if you missed it before but I'll leave it be if you're not inclined to answer)
well, that would depend entirely on what that particular policy pays out as a death benefit. Now wouldnt it. No matter if was a single or a joint policy.
Besides its only another 4% of the population right? How many of those would actually get married. or want to? or find that someone. and not have them leave them for someone or something else?
Hmmm...it is only four percent of the population (at best estimate actually)...so I wonder why the Dems base so much of what they do concerning them? Makes one think. Perhaps they are just trying to evade real issues that impact 100% of the population.
And also as far as the 4% question...if it impacts my wallet at all and it doesn't benefit me...I don;t care about it to be quite frank. We all have a voice in this country and let evryone;s be heard...but the majority will and always has ruled.
well, that would depend entirely on what that particular policy pays out as a death benefit. Now wouldnt it. No matter if was a single or a joint policy.
Besides its only another 4% of the population right? How many of those would actually get married. or want to? or find that someone. and not have them leave them for someone or something else?
Hmmm...it is only four percent of the population (at best estimate actually)...so I wonder why the Dems base so much of what they do concerning them? Makes one think. Perhaps they are just trying to evade real issues that impact 100% of the population.
And also as far as the 4% question...if it impacts my wallet at all and it doesn't benefit me...I don;t care about it to be quite frank. We all have a voice in this country and let evryone;s be heard...but the majority will and always has ruled.
You really can't be this fucking dumb can you? Because its about fucking equality. Like Johnny said, it doesn't matter if it's 4% or 25%. It's fucking equality.
well, that would depend entirely on what that particular policy pays out as a death benefit. Now wouldnt it. No matter if was a single or a joint policy.
Besides its only another 4% of the population right? How many of those would actually get married. or want to? or find that someone. and not have them leave them for someone or something else?
Hmmm...it is only four percent of the population (at best estimate actually)...so I wonder why the Dems base so much of what they do concerning them? Makes one think. Perhaps they are just trying to evade real issues that impact 100% of the population.
BECAUSE THEY ARE PEOPLE
Fuck
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
You really can't be this fucking dumb can you? Because its about fucking equality. Like Johnny said, it doesn't matter if it's 4% or 25%. It's fucking equality.
Great philosophy. Real class act
Free market. I have no will to ever have anything impact my wallet that doesn't benefit me or the one's I care about. When I want to donate to charity...I do. When I want to help someone out...I do. Pro gay marriage has nothing to do with equality, it's all about economics and money.
You really can't be this fucking dumb can you? Because its about fucking equality. Like Johnny said, it doesn't matter if it's 4% or 25%. It's fucking equality.
Great philosophy. Real class act
Free market. I have no will to ever have anything impact my wallet that doesn't benefit me or the one's I care about. When I want to donate to charity...I do. When I want to help someone out...I do. Pro gay marriage has nothing to do with equality, it's all about economics and money.
Unreal. Perhaps you will have a gay son one day...perhaps you will need government assistance someday. Complete embarassment to this country.
We all have a voice in this country and let evryone;s be heard...but the majority will and always has ruled.
You mean like how Bush didnt get the majority of the popular votes in 2000?
First point...just brutally honest.
Second point...you don't like the system get it changed. That's the beautiful thing with the AMerican system is you may have a fight, but it can and has changed.
You really can't be this fucking dumb can you? Because its about fucking equality. Like Johnny said, it doesn't matter if it's 4% or 25%. It's fucking equality.
Great philosophy. Real class act
Pro gay marriage has nothing to do with equality, it's all about economics and money.
You really can't be this fucking dumb can you? Because its about fucking equality. Like Johnny said, it doesn't matter if it's 4% or 25%. It's fucking equality.
Great philosophy. Real class act
Free market. I have no will to ever have anything impact my wallet that doesn't benefit me or the one's I care about. When I want to donate to charity...I do. When I want to help someone out...I do. Pro gay marriage has nothing to do with equality, it's all about economics and money.
Unreal. Perhaps you will have a gay son one day...perhaps you will need government assistance someday. Complete embarassment to this country.
And if that ever happens my priorities may change and I'll stand up for what I believe in at that point. Beautiful thing in AMerica is someone can change their mind and priorities.
We all have a voice in this country and let evryone;s be heard...but the majority will and always has ruled.
You mean like how Bush didnt get the majority of the popular votes in 2000?
First point...just brutally honest.
Second point...you don't like the system get it changed. That's the beautiful thing with the AMerican system is you may have a fight, but it can and has changed.
I don't get to vote for senators and house members in any state but my own. Not much I can do to change the system when our country is run by a corrupt congress.
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And so am I ....and the people who are against gay marriage. Why should we have our wallets impacted? No benefit to us. SO why vote for it.
For the fucking greater good of human beings. We did away with slavery, which cost a lot of rich people a lot of money. Was that a mistake?
There are many that would argue the fact that gay marriage would further society to be quite frank and their beliefs are no less valid or passionate than anyone who is for gay marriage. Me personally...I don't give a shit. I only worry about what will impact my wallet.
I don't get to vote for senators and house members in any state but my own. Not much I can do to change the system when our country is run by a corrupt congress.
People not living in your state don't get to vote for senators or house members of your state either. :? If you want to feel that congress is corrupt...that's your right.
I don't get to vote for senators and house members in any state but my own. Not much I can do to change the system when our country is run by a corrupt congress.
People not living in your state don't get to vote for senators or house members of your state either. :? If you want to feel that congress is corrupt...that's your right.
Yeah, so my one vote can be cast for 2 out of 50 senators. Not much impact there.
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That isnsurance costs don't rise with same sex marriage.
please, tell me how they would?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
insurance costs rise due to people with bad lifestyle choices like diet and smoking ... i don't see a full out ban of fast food ... start doing that - peeps start crying about freedom ... but apparently that freedom to choose who they want to marry doesn't count for gay people ...
There are way too many assumptions here to even comment.
Ha, yeah, science would be the facts. Something he doesn't agree with.[/quote]
No, it's a fact I can't swallow a hot dog whole.
I have no idea what this means, but given your track record, I'll just assume it's neither intelligent or witty.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Do insurance companies not pay out more money to an estate who has spousal benefits? Does an insurance company not pay out more to a person who is single vs. being married and having a spouse on the policy? Where does the money come from? They don't grow it. It comes from premiums. Don't even get me started on SOcial Security or Veteran benefits. :fp:
I suggest you do a search of this forum if you don;t know what I mean. If you still can't find it I'd be glad to PM you a link. Talk about attention seeking. :fp:
Besides its only another 4% of the population right? How many of those would actually get married. or want to? or find that someone. and not have them leave them for someone or something else?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
As to the the legal aspect, can he not assign you power of attorney and vice versa? Draw up a will?
(third time asking this - not sure if you missed it before but I'll leave it be if you're not inclined to answer)
Hmmm...it is only four percent of the population (at best estimate actually)...so I wonder why the Dems base so much of what they do concerning them? Makes one think.
And also as far as the 4% question...if it impacts my wallet at all and it doesn't benefit me...I don;t care about it to be quite frank. We all have a voice in this country and let evryone;s be heard...but the majority will and always has ruled.
You really can't be this fucking dumb can you? Because its about fucking equality. Like Johnny said, it doesn't matter if it's 4% or 25%. It's fucking equality.
Great philosophy. Real class act
Fuck
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Well, gotta give you props for being honest.
Honestly selfish.
Free market. I have no will to ever have anything impact my wallet that doesn't benefit me or the one's I care about. When I want to donate to charity...I do. When I want to help someone out...I do. Pro gay marriage has nothing to do with equality, it's all about economics and money.
And so am I ....and the people who are against gay marriage. Why should we have our wallets impacted? No benefit to us. SO why vote for it.
Unreal. Perhaps you will have a gay son one day...perhaps you will need government assistance someday. Complete embarassment to this country.
First point...just brutally honest.
Second point...you don't like the system get it changed. That's the beautiful thing with the AMerican system is you may have a fight, but it can and has changed.
Not entirely
For the fucking greater good of human beings. We did away with slavery, which cost a lot of rich people a lot of money. Was that a mistake?
And if that ever happens my priorities may change and I'll stand up for what I believe in at that point. Beautiful thing in AMerica is someone can change their mind and priorities.
I don't get to vote for senators and house members in any state but my own. Not much I can do to change the system when our country is run by a corrupt congress.
There are many that would argue the fact that gay marriage would further society to be quite frank and their beliefs are no less valid or passionate than anyone who is for gay marriage. Me personally...I don't give a shit. I only worry about what will impact my wallet.
People not living in your state don't get to vote for senators or house members of your state either. :? If you want to feel that congress is corrupt...that's your right.
Yeah, so my one vote can be cast for 2 out of 50 senators. Not much impact there.
You don't feel congress has been completely corrupted by lobbyists? Here's a book for you: http://www.amazon.com/Capitol-Punishmen ... 972&sr=1-1
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"