but that is the thing, you can't know. That is an assumption, whatever you base it on is up to you, but you don't know that because they are in the two party system. Probability and possibility are two different things and we make assumptions but that doesn't mean we are right. That doesn't mean with a certainty that the country wouldn't be different if it weren't bound by the two party system...I don't think that is a reflection of our politics, I think it is a choice that the parties have worked hard and abused election law to keep. But then again, maybe I think that way because I don't understand. Maybe you are right maybe I am, but I am not the one assuming that an entire culture/country/whatever you want to call american society is me first...
Again I understand, I am not stupid, I just don't agree with your assessment that we are dominantly a me first culture when it counts...making assumptions about large groups and applying those assumptions to individuals is a stereotype isn't it? I don't like those any more than you do.
also, if you dare tell me water is wet and the sky is blue I will fight you until the day i die.
obviously, i am generalizing ... just because americans go to war everywhere doesn't mean all americans love war ... i honestly can't believe you just posted the obvious of obvious ... i was under the assumption that this sort of understanding was a given ... i guess not! ...
now, i hope you understand why this has been most painful ...
generalizations are fine to use in a discussion. But when you generalize something as a negative, people may disagree. Especially when they are apart of the group being generalized. I was simply disagreeing with you based on the fact that the assumption you were making took leaps I didn't think were fair. Based on your posting history I take it that you believe it to be a negative. If I am making a poor judgement call on that let me know.
You don't have to hurt yourself. you can simply stop replying any time
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If Norway is happy, I'm happy. How can we say they are doing it wrong? What's the point of all this if we aren't happy?
Stop making sense.
People have got to bitch about something, and if it's got to be anything, it's usually socialism. It's the American Way. Or should I say the American Nightmare?
Speaking as someone who has family that live in Norway... aunts, uncles and many cousins... and as someone who visited Norway last year, including Bergen, where this article was written from...
Norway IS a paradise, except for the weather part of it
There is also the part about the price of a beer at a bar.
I'm still recovering, and I was there for a night and a half. No wonder I had weird looks when I ordered a proper round.
That's no joke. I went to an Irish bar in Bergen with my uncle and a pint of Guinness cost me 91 kroner, so I gave the bartender a 100 kr bill, and told him to keep the remainder as tip (although it is not expected that you tip bartenders in Norway)... so what I spent for that one pint was about 17 U.S. dollars (15 dollars and change without the tip).
Norwegians aren't big drinkers. Perhaps because alcohol is so expensive there? Perhaps that's not a bad thing?
Unlike here in the USA, you don't see advertisements at gas station mini-marts for cheap 30 packs of shitty beer everywhere, or anywhere at all in Norway. Hate to lecture, but I'd say that's a good thing.
Things in general are more expensive in Norway though. Norwegians generally earn more money than workers in other countries, so it seems to balance out for those that live there, but it will be somewhat expensive if you are visiting. I bought some CDs while I was there, and I definitely spent more on them than I would've if I'd bought them in the US, but it wasn't a terrible amount more, and it's cool to know I bought those CDs in Norway. One of those CDs was Ukulele Songs, which hadn't been released in the US yet... it was released in the US the day after I got back home.
I figured I'd do a little research about costs in Norway, and here's what I found:
Speaking as someone who has family that live in Norway... aunts, uncles and many cousins... and as someone who visited Norway last year, including Bergen, where this article was written from...
Norway IS a paradise, except for the weather part of it
There is also the part about the price of a beer at a bar.
I'm still recovering, and I was there for a night and a half. No wonder I had weird looks when I ordered a proper round.
That's no joke. I went to an Irish bar in Bergen with my uncle and a pint of Guinness cost me 91 kroner, so I gave the bartender a 100 kr bill, and told him to keep the remainder as tip (although it is not expected that you tip bartenders in Norway)... so what I spent for that one pint was about 17 U.S. dollars (15 dollars and change without the tip).
Norwegians aren't big drinkers. Perhaps because alcohol is so expensive there? Perhaps that's not a bad thing?
Unlike here in the USA, you don't see advertisements at gas station mini-marts for cheap 30 packs of shitty beer everywhere, or anywhere at all in Norway. Hate to lecture, but I'd say that's a good thing.
Things in general are more expensive in Norway though. Norwegians generally earn more money than workers in other countries, so it seems to balance out for those that live there, but it will be somewhat expensive if you are visiting. I bought some CDs while I was there, and I definitely spent more on them than I would've if I'd bought them in the US, but it wasn't a terrible amount more, and it's cool to know I bought those CDs in Norway. One of those CDs was Ukulele Songs, which hadn't been released in the US yet... it was released in the US the day after I got back home.
I figured I'd do a little research about costs in Norway, and here's what I found:
^These writers have a much better perspective than me, but I since I do know something about this subject, I had to jump in and say something
Totally. You have to keep in mind that stuff in other countries can be a lot cheaper than it is in the USA as well. Or how about the difference in pricing between NYC or San Francisco vs. some small town in Indiana. Its all relative. Shit costs more where there is more money.
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For me, the merits of debate were officially over when I remembered they charge $12 for a pint of beer yesterday. :ugeek:
generalizations are fine to use in a discussion. But when you generalize something as a negative, people may disagree. Especially when they are apart of the group being generalized. I was simply disagreeing with you based on the fact that the assumption you were making took leaps I didn't think were fair. Based on your posting history I take it that you believe it to be a negative. If I am making a poor judgement call on that let me know.
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Stop making sense.
People have got to bitch about something, and if it's got to be anything, it's usually socialism. It's the American Way. Or should I say the American Nightmare?
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
That's no joke. I went to an Irish bar in Bergen with my uncle and a pint of Guinness cost me 91 kroner, so I gave the bartender a 100 kr bill, and told him to keep the remainder as tip (although it is not expected that you tip bartenders in Norway)... so what I spent for that one pint was about 17 U.S. dollars (15 dollars and change without the tip).
Norwegians aren't big drinkers. Perhaps because alcohol is so expensive there? Perhaps that's not a bad thing?
Unlike here in the USA, you don't see advertisements at gas station mini-marts for cheap 30 packs of shitty beer everywhere, or anywhere at all in Norway. Hate to lecture, but I'd say that's a good thing.
Things in general are more expensive in Norway though. Norwegians generally earn more money than workers in other countries, so it seems to balance out for those that live there, but it will be somewhat expensive if you are visiting. I bought some CDs while I was there, and I definitely spent more on them than I would've if I'd bought them in the US, but it wasn't a terrible amount more, and it's cool to know I bought those CDs in Norway. One of those CDs was Ukulele Songs, which hadn't been released in the US yet... it was released in the US the day after I got back home.
I figured I'd do a little research about costs in Norway, and here's what I found:
http://mylittlenorway.com/2011/06/how-m ... in-norway/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 326AAlnh95
^These writers have a much better perspective than me, but I since I do know something about this subject, I had to jump in and say something
Totally. You have to keep in mind that stuff in other countries can be a lot cheaper than it is in the USA as well. Or how about the difference in pricing between NYC or San Francisco vs. some small town in Indiana. Its all relative. Shit costs more where there is more money.
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