JAY-Z

my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
edited June 2012 in Other Music
i apologize in advance for the profane thread title, but i thought it was a fitting start to this discussion, i hope the mods will allow me a little creative space on that one lol... lets talk about Pearl Jam agreeing to play a festival curated by the artist known as jay-z, who during his career has consistently degraded women, glorified guns and violence, bragged about his wealth, and constantly brags and raps about material possessions (bentleys, diamonds, champagne, you name it)

i am 33 years old, and have grown up in the hip-hop generation, and i happen to like hip-hop quite a bit. good hip-hop that is. i am familiar with jay-z and pretty much his entire catalog. he has a few songs i like, but he is definitely not the type of artist i would have assumed Pearl Jam would align themselves with, considering he has taken the exact opposite side of the spectrum of PJ on most artistic ideals they have held for 2 decades.

i know a lot of people wont, and dont, give a shit... but i know there are some people that actually still care about these things and i was hoping to foster a little conversation about their choice to sign on as headliner of jay-z's festival?

here is an example of jay-z the artist, on his 3rd studio album, Vol.2 hard Knock Life, which sold 5 million copies... the title of the song should be a pretty good indicator of whats to follow lyrically... this is the artist pearl Jam has aligned with and agreed to be co-headliner with on HIS festival... waddya think?

"Money, Cash, Hoes"

Turn the lights all the way
Turn the lights all the way down
What Uhhuh Yeah
(Uhh)
Come on
Big flow
(GGRRRRRR)
Come on yeah come on

Yo Yo J-A-Y, I flow sick
Fuck all y'all haters blow dick
I spits the game for those that throw bricks
Money cash hoes money cash chicks what
Sex murder and mayhem romance for the street
Only wife of mines is a life of crime
And since, life's a bitch in mini-skirts and big chests
How can I not flirt with death
That's life's a nigga, long as life prevent us
We gonna send a lot and pray to Christ forgive us
Fuck it
Ice the wrists and raise the price on these niggaz
Y'all cant floss on my level
I'll invite you all to get wit us if ya ball is glitter
When I go all the harlem playaz wall my picture
If you get close enough you can read the scripture
It reads money cash hoes how real was that nigga what

[Chorus: repeat 2X]
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (WHAT)
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (UHH)
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (COME ON)
Money cash hoes (WHAT) hoes (WHAT) hoes (WHAT)

Flavors robust platinum and gold touch
Y'all rap now, fast money lets slow it up
Niggaz try to stop Jay-Z to no luck
Roc-A-Fella foreva CEO what what
Us the villains, fuck your feelings
While yall playa hate we in the upper millions
Whats the dealings (huh) its like New York's been soft
Ever since Snoop came through and crushed the buildings
I'm tryin to restore the feelings fuck the law keep dealing
More money more cash more chilling
I know they gone criticize the hook on this song
Like I give a fuck I'm just a crook on this song
Bed-Stuy Brooknon took on the world
Shit I led a life you can write a book on
Sex murder and mayhem romance for the street
Man and I tell ya itll be the best seller

[Chorus: 2X]
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (WHAT)
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (UHH)
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (COME ON)
Money cash hoes (WHAT) hoes (WHAT) hoes (WHAT)


D-M-X and my dogs bite
Jigga my nigga rhyme all night
Thugs for life one night with this rap shit
Let em go and I bet they know what'll happen
When we clap shit
Actin like we owe em something
Then we show em something
Talk greasy I think they found em down the road or something
Fuckin wit a madman in a bad mood
Its like fuckin wit a mad dog that wasnt fed food
And the only thing thats stoppin him is you
Cause the only thing that he'll be droppin is you
Topic include; choppin in two
Drop it to Clue and the response from the street
This was one dog that loves raw meat
But gettin back to just cause I, love my niggaz
I shed blood, for my niggaz
Let a nigga holler where my niggaz
All I'ma hear is right here my nigga

[Chorus: 2X]
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (WHAT)
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (UHH)
Money cash hoes money cash hoes (COME ON)
Money cash hoes (WHAT) hoes (WHAT) hoes (WHAT)

Roc-A-Fella shit uhhuh
Ruff Ryders
My nigga Swizz
Uhhuh uhhuh
Dont stop biatch
Uh
Uhhuh yeah
Inspect the game yo
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  • Citizen ZackCitizen Zack Posts: 1,763
    "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them." - Thoreau

    No time to be void, or save up on life, you've got to spend it all
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,884
    Now I'm gonna preface this by noting that I think Jay-Z is the crappiest "renowned" rapper of all time. His voice sucks, his flow is HORRIBLE, and his lyrics are brain-dead. That being said, really, another thread from you about this festival?
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    so vote with your wallet and stay home. :fp:
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,517
    What about songs like "Love Boat Captain"......sounds like a guy who drives ;) a boat where a bunch of raunchy love happens on the 7 seas.....prolly a lot of rump shaking on that boat!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I couldn't care less about the lyrics, I just don't think he's very good. I also don't really want to go to a festival sponsored by Budweiser either... I just won't go...
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    He talks about his lyrics and how they have changed over time.

    http://www.npr.org/2010/11/16/131334322 ... -z-decoded
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,181
    81 wrote:
    so vote with your wallet and stay home. :fp:

    This.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,181
    I couldn't care less about the lyrics, I just don't think he's very good. I also don't really want to go to a festival sponsored by Budweiser either... I just won't go...

    And this.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    He talks about his lyrics and how they have changed over time.

    http://www.npr.org/2010/11/16/131334322 ... -z-decoded
    I was just about to post this.
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  • ShortyShorty Ontario Posts: 1,160
    It's pretty much a one-dimensional music genre - what else do you expect him to "sing" about. Like Country music (like the old joke - play it backwards - you keep your girl - you're happy - and your dog comes back). Clearly - I am generalizing - but - the most successful of these artists are doing exactly what Jay-Z has done. It makes them mad cash - which they need for the coke 'n' whores. It's clearly stated right in their lyrics!
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  • klusterfukklusterfuk Posts: 1,411
    i agree with the thread title.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    a single from his 4th studio album "Vol. 3 Life and Times of S. Carter"

    "Big Pimpin"

    You know I, thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em
    Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em
    Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em looking good
    But I don't fuckin feed 'em
    First time they fuss I'm breezing
    Talking 'bout, "What's the reasons?"
    I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch
    Better trust and believe 'em
    In the cut where I keep 'em
    'til I need a nutt, 'til I need to beat the guts
    Then it's "beep beep" and I'm picking them up
    Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
    Many chicks wanna put Jigga's fists in cuffs
    Divorce him and split his bucks
    Just because you got good head, I'mma break bread
    So you can be living it up?
    Shit, I part with nothing, y'all be fronting
    Me give my heart to a woman?
    Not for nothing, never happen
    I'll be forever macking
    Heart cold as assassins, I got no passion
    I got no patience
    And I hate waiting
    Ho get your ass in and let's ride

    [Hook]
    We doing: big pimpin, we spending cheese (Check 'em out now)
    Big pimpin on B.L.A.D.'s
    We doing big pimpin up in N.Y.C
    It's just that Jigga Man, Pimp C, and B-U-N B

    [Verse 2: Bun B]
    Nigga it's the big Southern rap impresario
    Coming straight up out the black barrio
    Makes a mill' up off a sorry ho
    Then sit back and peep my sce-nahr-i-o
    Oops, my bad, that's my scenario
    No I can't fuck a scary ho
    Now every time, every place, everywhere we go
    Hoes start pointing - they say, "There he go!"
    Now these motherfuckers know we carry more heat than a little bit
    We don't pull it out over little shit
    And if you catch a lick when I spit, then it won't be a little hit
    Go read a book you illiterate son of a bitch and step up your vocab
    Don't be surprised if your ho stab out with me
    And you see us coming down on your SLAB
    Living ghetto-fabulous, so mad, you just can't take it
    But nigga if you hating I
    Then you wait while I get your bitch butt-naked. Just break it
    You gotta pay like you weigh: wet with two pairs of clothes on
    Now get yo' ass to the back as I'm flying to the track
    Timbaland let me spit my prose on
    Pump it up in the pro-zone
    That's the track that we breaking these hoes on
    Ain't the track that we flow's on
    But when shit get hot, then the Glock start popping like ozone
    We keep hoes crunk like Trigger-man
    For real, it don't get no bigger man
    Don't trip, let's flip, getting throwed on the flip
    Getting blowed with the motherfuckin' Jigga Man, fool

    [Hook]

    [Verse 3: Pimp C]
    Smoking out, pouring up, keeping lean up in my cup
    All my car got leather and wood, in my hood we call it buck
    Everybody wanna ball, holla at broads at the mall
    If he up, watch him fall, nigga I can't fuck witch'all
    If I wasn't rapping baby, I would still be riding Mercedes
    Chroming, shining, sipping daily, no rest until whitey pay me
    Uhhh, now what y'all know bout them Texas boys
    Coming down in candied toys, smoking weed and talking noise

    [Hook]

    On the canopy, my stamina be, enough for Pamela Anderson Lee
    MTV jam of the week
    Made my money quick then back to the streets but
    Still sitting on blades... sipping that ray
    Standing on the corner of my block hustling
    Still getting that cane
    Half what I paid slipping right through customs
    It'll sell by night its egg shell white
    I got so many grams if the man find out
    It will land me in jail for life
    But I'm still big pimping, spending chesse
    With B.U.N. B, Pimp C, and Timothy
    We got bitches in the back of the truck, laughing it up
    Jigga Man: that's what's
  • maj4emaj4e Posts: 605
    I think 99 problems is a bad ass song. But seriously buy some kleenex and stay home. Keeping your $ is way more powerful than another thread on this topic.
  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    Now I'm gonna preface this by noting that I think Jay-Z is the crappiest "renowned" rapper of all time. His voice sucks, his flow is HORRIBLE, and his lyrics are brain-dead. That being said, really, another thread from you about this festival?


    i agree with the op
    f**k jay-z
    i'm not a big rap/hip-hop fan
    but i can tolerate them if they can sing as well
    which jay-z cannot
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Newch91 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    He talks about his lyrics and how they have changed over time.

    http://www.npr.org/2010/11/16/131334322 ... -z-decoded
    I was just about to post this.

    Yeah, man. Good interview. Terry Gross is awesome.
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    What kind of hip hop do you like?
  • Jay-Z wishes he could write lyrics like this:



    Intro:
    Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.


    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2

    (Verse 1:Huff)
    The Nina, OH, the Pinta, OH, the santa maria,
    OH, I'll do you in the bottom while your drinking Sangria.

    (verse 2:Doback)
    Nachos, lemon heads, my dad's boat,
    you wont go down 'cause my dick can float!

    (Verse 3:Huff)
    We sail 'round the world and go port to port, everytime I cum I produce a quart.

    (Verse 4:Doback)
    Put on your life vest, let's drop anchor, theres a nice lady whore, I'd like to swank her.

    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2

    (verse 5:Huff)
    Deadliest catch, without the crabs, we're almost out of gas, call the Arabs!

    (verse 6:Doback)
    I'm a pussy Pirate my name is Jack Sparrow, take off my pants so you can see my flesh arrow.

    (verse 7:Huff)
    Make sure to wax, use your mom's Nair you'll be amazed when I cum in your hair!

    (Verse 8:Doback)
    Pull up the anchor cause we're leaving dry land, get below deck with a dick in your hand!

    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,604
    A friend made me listen to the Gray Album since I'm a huge Beatles fan. It sounded like such a horrid defacement of Beatles songs. Just terrible. Too bad they sold their song rights to Michael Jackson.

    Oh well, he got my cash anyway. Maybe I'll get something for that day's ticket? :lol:
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    He talks about his lyrics and how they have changed over time.

    http://www.npr.org/2010/11/16/131334322 ... -z-decoded

    i will read that when i get a chance, and i'm glad he may be seeing the light, but it certainly doesnt change the fact he sold 50 million records being a sexist and materialistic pig of an artist for almost 2 decades... and of course some of it still remains, like on his last album, "watch the throne" with kanye west, with a nice little ditty on the record titled "Thats my bitch"... or the fact that they mention owning and driving "maybachs" about 50 times on the album? among other nauseating materialistic lyrics on the album...

    a great rapper, andre 3000 from outkast, once said in a song that seems fitting...

    "Bill Gates, dont dangle diamonds in the face
    of peasants when he Microsotfin' in the place"


    did i mention he copyrighted the name of his daughter? :roll:
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,897
    Jay-Z wishes he could write lyrics like this:



    Intro:
    Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.


    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2

    (Verse 1:Huff)
    The Nina, OH, the Pinta, OH, the santa maria,
    OH, I'll do you in the bottom while your drinking Sangria.

    (verse 2:Doback)
    Nachos, lemon heads, my dad's boat,
    you wont go down 'cause my dick can float!

    (Verse 3:Huff)
    We sail 'round the world and go port to port, everytime I cum I produce a quart.

    (Verse 4:Doback)
    Put on your life vest, let's drop anchor, theres a nice lady whore, I'd like to swank her.

    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2

    (verse 5:Huff)
    Deadliest catch, without the crabs, we're almost out of gas, call the Arabs!

    (verse 6:Doback)
    I'm a pussy Pirate my name is Jack Sparrow, take off my pants so you can see my flesh arrow.

    (verse 7:Huff)
    Make sure to wax, use your mom's Nair you'll be amazed when I cum in your hair!

    (Verse 8:Doback)
    Pull up the anchor cause we're leaving dry land, get below deck with a dick in your hand!

    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,472
    my2hands wrote:
    did i mention he copyrighted the name of his daughter? :roll:

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,880
    Some chicks are chicken heads
    Some dudes are tools

    To act like they don't exist on this planet is funny

    It's like people who say Howard Stern makes woman look like skanks

    Hello they are skanks :)
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    Jay-Z wishes he could write lyrics like this:



    Intro:
    Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.


    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2

    (Verse 1:Huff)
    The Nina, OH, the Pinta, OH, the santa maria,
    OH, I'll do you in the bottom while your drinking Sangria.

    (verse 2:Doback)
    Nachos, lemon heads, my dad's boat,
    you wont go down 'cause my dick can float!

    (Verse 3:Huff)
    We sail 'round the world and go port to port, everytime I cum I produce a quart.

    (Verse 4:Doback)
    Put on your life vest, let's drop anchor, theres a nice lady whore, I'd like to swank her.

    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2

    (verse 5:Huff)
    Deadliest catch, without the crabs, we're almost out of gas, call the Arabs!

    (verse 6:Doback)
    I'm a pussy Pirate my name is Jack Sparrow, take off my pants so you can see my flesh arrow.

    (verse 7:Huff)
    Make sure to wax, use your mom's Nair you'll be amazed when I cum in your hair!

    (Verse 8:Doback)
    Pull up the anchor cause we're leaving dry land, get below deck with a dick in your hand!

    Chorus:
    (Boats 'n' Hoes, Boats 'n' Hoes, I gotta have me more boats 'n' hoes.) x2


    WORD! :lol::lol::lol::lol: awesome!
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    marcos wrote:
    What kind of hip hop do you like?


    the roots are my hands down favorite of all time, no question... i like talib kweli... mos def is good... always been a fan of krs-one... a tribe called quest was great... beasties were great pioneers... nas is good... wu tang made some good records early on, i would have to say the gza stands out to me from that group... outkast was great... there is so little great hip-hop anymore that its hard to name much more that i enjoy at this point... if you're rapping about bentleys, packing 45's, how many times you've been shot or shot at someone, and slapping bitches than i'm not interested... for me there is a difference between story telling and weaving poems of inner city life, and glorifying, and there is a fine line between them... and to me jay-z clearly has glorified his misogynistic and materialistic attitudes and lifestyle...

    with that being said, when i was younger i liked some other shitty hip-hop that i have totally grown out of, jay would would probabaly be a good example of that... i remember liking his 1st album.. and dont get me wrong, he has made some good songs over the years that arent all about bentleys and being rich and using women, but the overall theme he has woven over the years is pretty clear to me

    to each his own, i'm just suprised PJ would headline the festival he curated. seems like an odd clash of artistic ideals to me?
  • boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    I wonder if there's a thread on Jay-Z's forum titled "FUCK PEARL JAM" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I can't believe people are so wound up that Pearl Jam are headlining with Jay-Z. Seriously, go outside and get some air. Its just a festival. Don't like it, don't go!
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,172
    marcos wrote:
    What kind of hip hop do you like?

    Yes, I would love to hear the OP's Top 10 favorite rappers.
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    boyo79 wrote:
    I wonder if there's a thread on Jay-Z's forum titled "FUCK PEARL JAM" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I can't believe people are so wound up that Pearl Jam are headlining with Jay-Z. Seriously, go outside and get some air. Its just a festival. Don't like it, don't go!
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mfc2006 wrote:
    my2hands wrote:
    did i mention he copyrighted the name of his daughter? :roll:

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    isnt that fucked up? :roll: :lol:


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    boyo79 wrote:
    I wonder if there's a thread on Jay-Z's forum titled "FUCK PEARL JAM" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I can't believe people are so wound up that Pearl Jam are headlining with Jay-Z. Seriously, go outside and get some air. Its just a festival. Don't like it, don't go!


    i can't seem to find a good jay z forum.

    anybody got a link?
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