Don't Frack Ohio

Stardog3..

Hi all!

If you are in the Ohio vicinity or are passionate about the harmful effects of fracking nationwide, please make sure you swing by Columbus June 17th and let everyone know! http://www.dontfrackoh.org/ has all the information you need plus important information on fracking. Not only does it pollute the air and water, it also causes serious social complications. YOUR health is at risk. I'm not affiliated with the group organizing, but am very passionate and want the word spread! If you are curious or have questions, let me know!

81

i hope they don't frack...

but sadly, when you put a dollar bill in front of an elected official.....

DS1119

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Stardog3..

81 wrote:

i hope they don't frack...

but sadly, when you put a dollar bill in front of an elected official.....

It's SO sad. I hope something like this- a peaceful demonstration that is going to have a HUGE turn-out- will maybe put more pressure and light on the severity of the situation.

I also think it's cool to have big name celebrities involved using their platform for this. Mark Ruffalo (who will be in attendance), Matt Damon, and others have come out against it.

Investing in clean energy can create jobs, especially in the state of Ohio. And these bills that are supposedly "protecting us" and making restrictions and guidelines for fracking have their fair share of loopholes...naturally.

rick1zoo2

I am in PA, we are already fracked

DS1119

I hope everthign gets fracked up.

chadwick

why do some wanna destroy clean water, clean air and ruin the earth all for their bunk ass greed?

i read that fracking is where they inject chemical laced high pressure water into the ground to somehow extract natural gas faster or something. i am not as educated on this topic as i should be. looks like i need to study this fracking a bit further.

can you tell us anything you may have learned about what fracking is, why they do it, and what kinds of chemicals they add to the water pumped into the earth

rollings

rick1zoo2 wrote:

I am in PA, we are already fracked

welcome to Frackville, Schuylkill County

Stardog3..

rick1zoo2 wrote:

I am in PA, we are already fracked

I'd say so: http://www.npr.org/2012/05/14/149631363/when-fracking-comes-to-town-it-s-water-water-everywhere.


What kind of natural disasters, social disasters, etc etc. are going to have to occur before we realize the need to move past $$ and GDP, and focus on quality of life and sustainability of our natural resources?? I mean, we CAN accomplish all 3. Craziness. Anyway, this isn't the Moving Train so no need for debate, but wanted to let people know about this because it's a very important issue! Hope to see some PJ shirts there!!

rick1zoo2

rollings wrote:

rick1zoo2 wrote:

I am in PA, we are already fracked

welcome to Frackville, Schuylkill County

ha! wow, I know that town and I never thought of that.

green mountain man

Vermont "the Green Mountain State" is the first state to ban fracking. :thumbup:
I hope more states follow ASAP

Stardog3..

chadwick wrote:

why do some wanna destroy clean water, clean air and ruin the earth all for their bunk ass greed?

i read that fracking is where they inject chemical laced high pressure water into the ground to somehow extract natural gas faster or something. i am not as educated on this topic as i should be. looks like i need to study this fracking a bit further.

can you tell us anything you may have learned about what fracking is, why they do it, and what kinds of chemicals they add to the water pumped into the earth

Stardog3..

DS1119 wrote:

I hope everthign gets fracked up.

You motherfracker.

oona left

chadwick wrote:

can you tell us anything you may have learned about what fracking is, why they do it, and what kinds of chemicals they add to the water pumped into the earth

There is an outstanding documentary on the topic called "Gasland."

It is highly recommended.

mikalina

Thank you for sharing this information. I am just now hearing about this and its upsetting.

DS1119

I realize this isn't AMT but my two cents is thank goodness a little info and a lot of speculation wasn't available about new technoligies decades ago because we would have had people protesting the development and advancement of everything and anything. As we move forward in society there are upsides and downsides of everything. Can you imagine how different the world would be if we were never allowed to mine for oil becasue somehow enough people got together and figured it was bad for society? Sure there are downsides of doing it but those upsides are certainly more beneficial.

oona left

DS1119 wrote:

I realize this isn't AMT but my two cents is thank goodness a little info and a lot of speculation wasn't available about new technoligies decades ago because we would have had people protesting the development and advancement of everything and anything. As we move forward in society there are upsides and downsides of everything. Can you imagine how different the world would be if we were never allowed to mine for oil becasue somehow enough people got together and figured it was bad for society? Sure there are downsides of doing it but those upsides are certainly more beneficial.

With all due respect, do you realize what fracking does to the water supply?

People in their homes can turn on a faucet and light the water that comes out ON FIRE. This is documented in many areas of the U.S., and is a direct result of the fracking process.

The water that comes into their homes is flammable.

This isn't reversible. There are serious long term risks that are being ignored because it's profitable now.

Stardog3..

DS1119 wrote:

Sure there are downsides of doing it but those upsides are certainly more beneficial.

Temporary economic boom and only about 100 years of natural gas? Then a huge bust and you end up with people in the same position they were before- with high poverty rates and high percentages of drug and alcohol abuse among the workers, etc. etc. And then what happens to these rural communities that developed infrastructure and whatnot to accommodate the people that moved there for the industry after there is no more? Plus you have it causing illnesses in people, like us and our families, environmental degradation/pollution AND manmade earthquakes. Why not put a stop to it now before we get too invested? Why not invest in other things that can create jobs and work for us in the long term that are DEFINITELY more beneficial?

Stardog3..

If nothing else, would you drink the water or let your family drink the water from those places that they are fracking? Doubt you would come near it.

DS1119

oona left wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

I realize this isn't AMT but my two cents is thank goodness a little info and a lot of speculation wasn't available about new technoligies decades ago because we would have had people protesting the development and advancement of everything and anything. As we move forward in society there are upsides and downsides of everything. Can you imagine how different the world would be if we were never allowed to mine for oil becasue somehow enough people got together and figured it was bad for society? Sure there are downsides of doing it but those upsides are certainly more beneficial.

With all due respect, do you realize what fracking does to the water supply?

People in their homes can turn on a faucet and light the water that comes out ON FIRE. This is documented in many areas of the U.S., and is a direct result of the fracking process.

The water that comes into their homes is flammable.

This isn't reversible. There are serious long term risks that are being ignored because it's profitable now.

Natural gas in the ground causes this. Not fracking. This phenomen happened well before the idea of fracking ever came around that's a well known and documented fact. Conveniently that truth is left out and only the "new phenomen" of this happening is put out there for the activists to rally around. Kind of like when a gun accident happens. All the gun control activists point towards that...they convenienlty forget about the lives that have been saved by those same guns.

DS1119

Stardog3.. wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Sure there are downsides of doing it but those upsides are certainly more beneficial.

Temporary economic boom and only about 100 years of natural gas? Then a huge bust and you end up with people in the same position they were before- with high poverty rates and high percentages of drug and alcohol abuse among the workers, etc. etc. And then what happens to these rural communities that developed infrastructure and whatnot to accommodate the people that moved there for the industry after there is no more? Plus you have it causing illnesses in people, like us and our families, environmental degradation/pollution AND manmade earthquakes. Why not put a stop to it now before we get too invested? Why not invest in other things that can create jobs and work for us in the long term that are DEFINITELY more beneficial?

I really don't want to argue here but using this logic what happens when the earth's natural oil supply runs out. Should we also sit there shaking our fingers and kicking the dirt that we shouldn't have done that either?