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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 5,876
    brianlux said:
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So for you NY experts, are people ordering all of these new boots on vinyl?  Seems pretty redundant to Massey, Shakespeare, Cellar Door, Carnegie with the exception of Citizen Kane, which is heavy with On the Beach.  I ordered that one for sure.  

    It's hard to be a "completist" on NY.  
    Especially because that means I would have to willingly own Are You Passionate? and Fork in the Road.

    Haha!  I willingly own both of those albums on vinyl but I'm no where nearly an NY completist.  I only have 44 Niel LPs and a mere 14 CDs.
    Honestly, I’d love to have  Are You Passionate on vinyl, but Discogs prices - plus shipping to Australia - have priced me out so far.
    It’s one of only 4 studio releases I don’t have on vinyl. Yet…

    I just looked at what Discogs has and am surprised at these prices (although these days, I guess I shouldn't be).  It's so weird to see an album that has been panned the way that one has go for so much.  There are definitely some duds on that double LP, but the good stuff there is worth having.  I hope you manage to find a reasonable copy some time! 
    Just curious, what others are you missing?
    The only other studio records I’m missing are Living With War, Living With War: In The Beginning, and Prairie Wind.

    AYP and the 2 LWWs are not among my favourite Neil albums but I love Prairie Wind, I think it’s a great album. I’ll get hold of them one day.

    I also need Road Rock and Year of the Horse to complete the set. As Tim said, I’m also too close to stop now!
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,322
    edited May 4
    I would love to have Prairie Wind. The Demme doc of those Ryman shows is one of my favorite concert films. 
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • FR181798FR181798 Posts: 1,968
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So for you NY experts, are people ordering all of these new boots on vinyl?  Seems pretty redundant to Massey, Shakespeare, Cellar Door, Carnegie with the exception of Citizen Kane, which is heavy with On the Beach.  I ordered that one for sure.  

    It's hard to be a "completist" on NY.  
    Especially because that means I would have to willingly own Are You Passionate? and Fork in the Road.

    Haha!  I willingly own both of those albums on vinyl but I'm no where nearly an NY completist.  I only have 44 Niel LPs and a mere 14 CDs.
    Honestly, I’d love to have  Are You Passionate on vinyl, but Discogs prices - plus shipping to Australia - have priced me out so far.
    It’s one of only 4 studio releases I don’t have on vinyl. Yet…

    I just looked at what Discogs has and am surprised at these prices (although these days, I guess I shouldn't be).  It's so weird to see an album that has been panned the way that one has go for so much.  There are definitely some duds on that double LP, but the good stuff there is worth having.  I hope you manage to find a reasonable copy some time! 
    Just curious, what others are you missing?
    The only other studio records I’m missing are Living With War, Living With War: In The Beginning, and Prairie Wind.

    AYP and the 2 LWWs are not among my favourite Neil albums but I love Prairie Wind, I think it’s a great album. I’ll get hold of them one day.

    I also need Road Rock and Year of the Horse to complete the set. As Tim said, I’m also too close to stop now!
    I have Living with War. It was the most I'd spent on a new record at the time. Not sure why I preordered it. The owner of the record store was "are you sure it's going to be £29.99". I liked it but can't say I've really played it more than a few times.
  • shorty4568shorty4568 Seattle, WAPosts: 119
    FR181798 said:
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So for you NY experts, are people ordering all of these new boots on vinyl?  Seems pretty redundant to Massey, Shakespeare, Cellar Door, Carnegie with the exception of Citizen Kane, which is heavy with On the Beach.  I ordered that one for sure.  

    It's hard to be a "completist" on NY.  
    Especially because that means I would have to willingly own Are You Passionate? and Fork in the Road.

    Haha!  I willingly own both of those albums on vinyl but I'm no where nearly an NY completist.  I only have 44 Niel LPs and a mere 14 CDs.
    Honestly, I’d love to have  Are You Passionate on vinyl, but Discogs prices - plus shipping to Australia - have priced me out so far.
    It’s one of only 4 studio releases I don’t have on vinyl. Yet…

    I just looked at what Discogs has and am surprised at these prices (although these days, I guess I shouldn't be).  It's so weird to see an album that has been panned the way that one has go for so much.  There are definitely some duds on that double LP, but the good stuff there is worth having.  I hope you manage to find a reasonable copy some time! 
    Just curious, what others are you missing?
    The only other studio records I’m missing are Living With War, Living With War: In The Beginning, and Prairie Wind.

    AYP and the 2 LWWs are not among my favourite Neil albums but I love Prairie Wind, I think it’s a great album. I’ll get hold of them one day.

    I also need Road Rock and Year of the Horse to complete the set. As Tim said, I’m also too close to stop now!
    I have Living with War. It was the most I'd spent on a new record at the time. Not sure why I preordered it. The owner of the record store was "are you sure it's going to be £29.99". I liked it but can't say I've really played it more than a few times.
    Both LWW and Prairie Wind are Classic Records pressings on QUIEX-SV-P. They both sound fantastic. I prefer Prairie Wind as an album though. I regret not getting in the beginning because I think I like it better than the original but I'm not going to spend the $100+ for a nearly duplicate album now. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    edited May 6
    Living with War is Neil Youngs last VERY-VERY-GREAT album.

    And Are You Passionate is amazing. 

    Prairie Wind is the most overrated album. It's the Friday the 13th part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan of the Harvest/Comes a Time/Harvest Moon/Silver & Gold/Prairie Wind pentology. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 5,876
    Living with War is Neil Youngs last VERY-VERY-GREAT album.

    And Are You Passionate is amazing. 

    Prairie Wind is the most overrated album. It's the Friday the 13th part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan of the Harvest/Comes a Time/Harvest Moon/Silver & Gold/Prairie Wind pentology. 
    You spelled Le Noise wrong!  :)
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    goldrush said:
    Living with War is Neil Youngs last VERY-VERY-GREAT album.

    And Are You Passionate is amazing. 

    Prairie Wind is the most overrated album. It's the Friday the 13th part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan of the Harvest/Comes a Time/Harvest Moon/Silver & Gold/Prairie Wind pentology. 
    You spelled Le Noise wrong!  :)
    Only reaches VERY-GREAT. But it is very great indeed!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • shorty4568shorty4568 Seattle, WAPosts: 119
    goldrush said:
    Living with War is Neil Youngs last VERY-VERY-GREAT album.

    And Are You Passionate is amazing. 

    Prairie Wind is the most overrated album. It's the Friday the 13th part 8: Jason Takes Manhattan of the Harvest/Comes a Time/Harvest Moon/Silver & Gold/Prairie Wind pentology. 
    You spelled Le Noise wrong!  :)
    No its pronounced psy·​che·​del·​ic pill!
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    Come on people. Let's strive for a higher standard in this thread.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,045
    edited May 6
    Theres some cringe shit on LWW. I also think RAW/IN The Beginning is a better take on that record. 


    To be clear, I supported the albums statement then and now, but some of the lyrics? woof.


    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • FR181798FR181798 Posts: 1,968
    edited May 6
    Theres some cringe shit on LWW. I also think RAW/IN The Beginning is a better take on that record. 

    Gave it a spin today for the first time in years and it's definitely cringey in places. Dont know how I forgot how political and scathing it was. I actually like the instrumentation on it more than anything else, regardless of the lyrics it's just got some really catchy choruses on it as well. I've never heard the RAW version. It's definitely a great little bit of commentary of that time period and more interesting than a lot of his records. I watched some you tube versions of some of the songs and quite a bit of outrage over some songs. One great video of CSNY playing one of the songs and people booing and leaving. The band looked quite pleased by the mixed response they got.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    Haven't gotten my Craneige Hall-vinyl I ordered last year yet(!). The store says it's suppose to be available in stock again in July. 

    Can I trust that?

    Or should I nab a (much pricier) copy off discogs?

    (on another note, I just bought the following three OBS releases)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • FR181798FR181798 Posts: 1,968
    Haven't gotten my Craneige Hall-vinyl I ordered last year yet(!). The store says it's suppose to be available in stock again in July. 

    Can I trust that?

    Or should I nab a (much pricier) copy off discogs?

    (on another note, I just bought the following three OBS releases)
    I returned a couple of copies to Amazon when it came out as both had crushed corners and now it's proving difficult for me to find for a reasonable price. It seems a bit early to be spending much over the initial price.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 37,299
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So for you NY experts, are people ordering all of these new boots on vinyl?  Seems pretty redundant to Massey, Shakespeare, Cellar Door, Carnegie with the exception of Citizen Kane, which is heavy with On the Beach.  I ordered that one for sure.  

    It's hard to be a "completist" on NY.  
    Especially because that means I would have to willingly own Are You Passionate? and Fork in the Road.

    Haha!  I willingly own both of those albums on vinyl but I'm no where nearly an NY completist.  I only have 44 Niel LPs and a mere 14 CDs.
    Honestly, I’d love to have  Are You Passionate on vinyl, but Discogs prices - plus shipping to Australia - have priced me out so far.
    It’s one of only 4 studio releases I don’t have on vinyl. Yet…

    I just looked at what Discogs has and am surprised at these prices (although these days, I guess I shouldn't be).  It's so weird to see an album that has been panned the way that one has go for so much.  There are definitely some duds on that double LP, but the good stuff there is worth having.  I hope you manage to find a reasonable copy some time! 
    Just curious, what others are you missing?
    The only other studio records I’m missing are Living With War, Living With War: In The Beginning, and Prairie Wind.

    AYP and the 2 LWWs are not among my favourite Neil albums but I love Prairie Wind, I think it’s a great album. I’ll get hold of them one day.

    I also need Road Rock and Year of the Horse to complete the set. As Tim said, I’m also too close to stop now!

    Good, keep going!  :-D
    "I believe in the mystery, and I don't want to take it any further than that. Maybe what I mean by that is love."
    -John Densmore











  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    FR181798 said:
    Haven't gotten my Craneige Hall-vinyl I ordered last year yet(!). The store says it's suppose to be available in stock again in July. 

    Can I trust that?

    Or should I nab a (much pricier) copy off discogs?

    (on another note, I just bought the following three OBS releases)
    I returned a couple of copies to Amazon when it came out as both had crushed corners and now it's proving difficult for me to find for a reasonable price. It seems a bit early to be spending much over the initial price.
    yeah Maybe. Just getting stressed about not getting it, and then them having it in stock again is being pushed (and now ill july....)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047


    So why does the bottom one have severe jpeg artefacts?

    And why does it clearly show digital pizelation on the images?

    This can not be how the original bootlegs looked?!?


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • static111static111 Posts: 3,577

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    static111 said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 5,876
    I’m still waiting for my OBS vinyl I ordered from Greedy Hand. It always takes longer to get to Australia though.

    My ORS box 4 turned up yesterday. With tongue firmly in cheek, in the spirit of S_C picking on artwork I’ll point out that the sticker on the box says “Historically accurate artwork”:



    When, in fact, the sleeve for This Note’s For You isn’t the same as the original. It’s a darker version of the sleeve without The Bluenotes listed:



    It still sounds good though!
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    goldrush said:
    I’m still waiting for my OBS vinyl I ordered from Greedy Hand. It always takes longer to get to Australia though.

    My ORS box 4 turned up yesterday. With tongue firmly in cheek, in the spirit of S_C picking on artwork I’ll point out that the sticker on the box says “Historically accurate artwork”:



    When, in fact, the sleeve for This Note’s For You isn’t the same as the original. It’s a darker version of the sleeve without The Bluenotes listed:



    It still sounds good though!
    Is there a history with the cover without "& the Bluenotes" ? He wasn't allowed to use it and had to revise the cover?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 5,876
    goldrush said:
    I’m still waiting for my OBS vinyl I ordered from Greedy Hand. It always takes longer to get to Australia though.

    My ORS box 4 turned up yesterday. With tongue firmly in cheek, in the spirit of S_C picking on artwork I’ll point out that the sticker on the box says “Historically accurate artwork”:



    When, in fact, the sleeve for This Note’s For You isn’t the same as the original. It’s a darker version of the sleeve without The Bluenotes listed:



    It still sounds good though!
    Is there a history with the cover without "& the Bluenotes" ? He wasn't allowed to use it and had to revise the cover?
    Yeah there was soul band called Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes in the 70s. Melvin took legal action after Neil released the album so he had to change it.
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • static111static111 Posts: 3,577
    static111 said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    So how does Citizen Cain Jr sound?  I had that on cassette in the 90's and loved it but the sound was very muffled.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 25,424
    static111 said:
    static111 said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    So how does Citizen Cain Jr sound?  I had that on cassette in the 90's and loved it but the sound was very muffled.
    Doesn't look good.  This may be a pressing of the actual audience recording.  https://www.discogs.com/release/21874963-Neil-Young-Citizen-Kane-Jr-Blues
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    edited May 18
    static111 said:
    static111 said:

    I can't wait for citizen cain jr to be available in the US.  Not even worried about the pixels
    I wished he would have 

    1) found the original photo sources and redone the graphic and done a "spruced up" cover --with also all the photo assets etc looking superior to the original bootleg - JUST LIKE THE AUDIO.

    or

    2) done some reproscan of the bootleg artwork.

    This look like he saved down JPEGs from google... haha...

    (Or maybe the original bootlegs look like this......)
    So how does Citizen Cain Jr sound?  I had that on cassette in the 90's and loved it but the sound was very muffled.
    Haven't listened to them yet. I just got new speakers yesterday that I installed... and all I have listened to since then is On the Beach, KISS Smashes, Trashes & Hits and a swedish forgotten and hard to come by gem of an album.

    I CAN'T MAKE THE AUDIO FROM THE TV USING HDMI ARC TO WORK WITH MY RECIEVERS AND THE SPEAKERS THOUGH. DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG.

    But wait,  I thought all these were made from Neils archive of multitrack recordings? 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    edited May 18
    I feeel fooled if these are audience boots? 

    The cool things about these release were (to my understanding) that he swapped poor sounding audience boots with quality mixed sound...

    I will return these then I think.

    Ugly covers AND shit sound?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 5,876
    edited May 18
    Four of the six originally-announced OBS releases were from multi track masters, Citizen Kane Jr is not one of them.
    From NYA:





    Post edited by goldrush on
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 26,047
    goldrush said:
    Four of the six originally-announced OBS releases were from multi track masters, Citizen Kane Jr is not one of them.
    From NYA:





    Hmm. Should I just buy the multi tracks or be one of those disgusting completists... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,045
    edited May 21
    Yeah, citizen Kane does sound like a bootleg, but it’s still pretty cool to have. Really wish PJ would do this. I’d love to have a bunch of those old import bootlegs pressed like this.


    the quality of the record itself is top notch. Pretty sure it’s RTI. And of course cut by Bellman.
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowherePosts: 5,876
    There was some preorder info for Toast on NYA briefly today, but it’s been taken down now.



    The text is taken from an old article about Toast, but the part with the preorder date is new. 
    Let’s see if it reappears…
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
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