Tom Gabel of Against Me! transgendered

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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    Since I can't tell who's being serious and who's having a bit of fun, well I felt compelled to clarify a few terms -- no offense intended to anyone.

    Transvestite -- Someone who enjoys dressing up in the opposite sex's clothing; does not necessarily correlate with being homosexual or transgendered.

    Intersex (hermaphrodite) -- an individual born with both sexes' genitalia or with genitals that are not clearly male or female. This is a physical phenomenon, again having no correlation with a person's sexual preference or with their gender.

    Sex -- XX or XY, usually -- biological.

    Gender -- how a person identifies; do you feel as if you are a boy or a girl?

    Transgender -- Someone whose sex and gender are not in alignment. Someone who feels as if they are a woman trapped in a man's body (or vice versa). Again, not necessarily correlated with sexual preference. Tom Gabel was in a relationship with a woman, and I believe I read that s/he is going to try to maintain that relationship as Laura. Chaz Bono was in a relationship with a woman when he was Chastity Bono, and I believe that relationship has continued.

    As for referring to Tom Gabel as Laura, this is common courtesy. if your buddy George decides to change his name to Sam because he was named for his Uncle George who was a real SOB, or if he wishes to be called by his middle name, Sherman, are you going to respect his name change or insist on calling him George until he can produce legal proof of the change? Obviously, Gabel is changing more than a name, but if he is identifying as a she, it is disrespectful to ignore her wishes.
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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    Since I can't tell who's being serious and who's having a bit of fun, well I felt compelled to clarify a few terms -- no offense intended to anyone.

    Transvestite -- Someone who enjoys dressing up in the opposite sex's clothing; does not necessarily correlate with being homosexual or transgendered.

    Intersex (hermaphrodite) -- an individual born with both sexes' genitalia or with genitals that are not clearly male or female. This is a physical phenomenon, again having no correlation with a person's sexual preference or with their gender.

    Sex -- XX or XY, usually -- biological.

    Gender -- how a person identifies; do you feel as if you are a boy or a girl?

    Transgender -- Someone whose sex and gender are not in alignment. Someone who feels as if they are a woman trapped in a man's body (or vice versa). Again, not necessarily correlated with sexual preference. Tom Gabel was in a relationship with a woman, and I believe I read that s/he is going to try to maintain that relationship as Laura. Chaz Bono was in a relationship with a woman when he was Chastity Bono, and I believe that relationship has continued.

    As for referring to Tom Gabel as Laura, this is common courtesy. if your buddy George decides to change his name to Sam because he was named for his Uncle George who was a real SOB, or if he wishes to be called by his middle name, Sherman, are you going to respect his name change or insist on calling him George until he can produce legal proof of the change? Obviously, Gabel is changing more than a name, but if he is identifying as a she, it is disrespectful to ignore her wishes.


    Great post. Thank you. I was aware of some of that information, but not all.


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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    they have an album coming out in January called "Transgender Dysphoria Blues"

    single out now called FUCKMYLIFE666. Sounds ok.

    https://soundcloud.com/totaltreblemusic/fuckmylife666
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    saw Against Me! in Lancaster, PA on Saturday. I only knew a handful of their stuff, but they put on one hell of a show. Crowd was into them, lot of moshing and crowd surfing. New stuff sounded decent as well.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    anyone seeing her side project? Laura Jane Grace & The Devouring Mothers? I bought a ticket to see them in philly and also Wilmington, Delaware.
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    this picture she actually looks kinda cute or at least more feminine than other pics i've seen of her
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,066
    her new book "Tranny" is out now. I'll probably pick it up next time i'm at the bookstore
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