north carolina const. amendmnt on gay marraige
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These people seem to dwell on the fact that same sex marriages can't produce children AS IF that's all marriage is about and for.
Grow up people. It's not about you and your Christian beliefs. Leave people alone. They are not hurting you or your precious children.
good.
Exactly- excellent point!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
way to take us back 50 years.
thanks north carolina.
the people opposed to this really need to stop and ask themselves if the real jesus would have actually supported this ban.
he is forgetting that he also regulated and defined the only acceptable marriage as that between a man and a woman.... :roll:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Definition. Nature. I just got back from a gay wedding. Probably the best meal I've had in months. Potluck. It was my aunts wedding in Illinois. She's the best.
Woot
While it's upsetting that people would so Gleefully do a victory dance that they passed a law that does literally nothing but harm someone else, their time will come. And it's not going to be pretty.
But this won't last. A vote like this would have been 20-25% higher only about 10 years ago.
And what's really funny is that the people of North Carolina thought they were voting for a ban on gay marriage. They weren't. They already had one.
No, what they just voted to do was make civil unions for BOTH Gay and Straight couples illegal. That means common-law marriages are also now illegal. And that means that a couple that's lived together for years can't include each other on their health insurance.
But the majority of the people in North Carolina were so blinded by their hate of my family that they didn't' really bother to read the bill. Oh well.
sadly in will not come to pass
Ive lived in the north and the south. Both have ignorance. I've known just as many yankees that think a woman shouldn't have the choose as rebels who think gays should be allowed to marry.
The common denominator of ignorance isn't where someone was raised, its religion.
(I say this because I teach in a university and I've noticed that the students are kind to transgender students as well as to same sex couples.)
"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
- Mitch Hedberg
"the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc."
A proponent of the law yesterday stated perhaps the gay community could leave marriage as is
and establish a new amendment, giving a new name for the union of same sex couples
with the same legal rights.
lots of dumbasses and rednecks....
anyhoo, I'm not surprised by the outcome...
Constitutional amendment to provide that marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized in this State.
no more common law marriage or anything like that.
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
well, it was also the republican primary.....
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
As above. Seems this has been overlooked by voters. Unless no one 'lives in sin' in NC. Guess people got fixated on/blinded byy the 'gay' thing and didn't realise how far this law stretched and what the ramifications will be for straight couples.
but see thats the thing a.m. women were shackled to men in marriage so they could reproduce legally. it all came down to property.
back in the early days of colonisation in here in oz, common law marriages that had existed for many many years werent accepted because the powers that be.. the british overlords decided it wasnt the way things were done. fully forgetting that those they discriminated against in most cases were irish or lower class and didnt subscribe to the rules of the ruling class. but then again they also didnt allow catholics practice their own faith and catholics were punished for doing so, so...
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
And yet, the big problem of opposition to gay marriage is linked to some underlying issues. The issues appear to be related to different thoughts about the function of marriage or the purpose of marriage or religious intolerance, or even the nasty underlying issue of discrimination against homosexuals because of hatred. It's all stewing in a big ol pot under the surface of these arguments about gay marriage.
I think the best way to solve this problem would be to pull all the issues out from under the table and up into the air so they can be addressed one by one.
i vote for ingrained religious intolerence.
and no for all those folks who just burst into flames through righteous indignation im not saying ALL religious folk are intolerant.. just that the accumulative effect of thousands of years of indoctrinated scripture tends to take hold and isnt easily shaken from its myopically discriminant viewpoint.
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but i am by no means surprised by the overall outcome
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
The law passed yesterday made it very clear that a union of two people of the same sex can NEVER be equal to that of a married man and woman. So whomever said that is a fucking idiot who didn't read the bill before voting for it. :fp:
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It is not marriage by definition nor history.
This based in the tradition of the word marriage and what it has
meant for thousands of years, for billions of participants.
Most protecters of the union of marriage do not oppose rights being equal
or that there is a union
it is obvious there are many unions and gay is here to stay.
Gay people can not marry because of the fact they are the same sex.
By definition and now by law which could expand unfortunately because
of the definition and history of marriage.
But a new word a new amendment can bring equality to the unions to end this.
It will not be called marriage but will be called _ _ _ _ _ _
with the same legal rights and may, in my opinion, more than likely,
out number 'marriages' in the distant future.
Those wanting the traditional marriage union, that was created long ago,
to stay intact, it does
as gay couples move forward with a new life, a new word,
a new union with the same rights as all.
If the haters still hate that is their problem ...so be it....
there are more lovers than haters.
time to look into the future instead of looking back at the past. there was a time quite recently when in my country the indigenous were not even considered people. we got over that and i think those who dont want gay union to be called marriage should get over it and embrace the future world. one where equality trumps outdated tradition.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say