Axl Says "Thanks, But No Thanks" About HOF

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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    Adler has always reminded me of Uncle whatshisname from Napoleon Dynamite. Living in the past. Complete loser that can't move on with life. He was on ONE FUCKING ALBUM. He got booted before UYI were even recorded. Who in their right mind would want to attach their wagon to his star? He's a train wreck.

    And I have to say, as much of a dick as Axl's been in the past, I can't say a bad word about his letter. He seems to have his shit in order and he isn't afraid to serve it up.

    Good for him.

    Velvet Revolver should play in the GNR slot. That would be awesome.

    :lol: Well said. And as much as I agree with Axl, your suggestion for VR is a good one. Might as well. I'm sure in some quarters that will seem disrespectful, but Izzy and Axl aren't there, so why not? Slash should enjoy it however he sees fit at this point and the HoF should accommodate.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Axl is a dick and in real life I probably wouldn't like him, but as a singer and just the whole fuck you he's giving to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I have to applaud him. For a band as raw and dangerous as GNR were, especially right out the gate, this should be expected. Even if he wasn't a dick I can understand why he wouldn't want to do a one off couple of songs at a corporate event only to open the floodgates more than they were already open about the original line up getting back together.

    Until the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame puts Rush in, I am happy with anyone who says fuck you to them. Even if you aren't a fan, their contribution, influence, and longevity belongs ahead of many of the acts that are even being inducted this year. I'm not a big fan of Neil Young or the Stones, but I ackowledge their influence and know the HOF would be a joke without them in it. As it is now without Rush in.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    There's more than a few big names that have chosen not to appear at their induction including Paul McCartney, Neil Young and Jerry Garcia.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... s-20120412
  • Holtzmn
    Holtzmn Posts: 87
    http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2 ... _of_fa.php

    Izzy asked me to do him a favor and sort of get this out for him. Izzy don't Tweet, etc.

    Thanks.

    Duff

    Izzy's Statement:

    I have waited up to this point to see what would become of the GNR induction into RRHOF. I would like to say THANK YOU and GRACIAS to RRHOF for the acknowledgement of our works over the years as a band. BIG THANKS to all my bandmates who helped get us to where we are today. And, of course, THANK YOU to all of the people on this planet (including, but not limited to, the entire universe and beyond, etc., etc., etc.) who have supported Guns N' Roses from day one. Adios, Amigos!

    Izzy Stradlin

    LONG LIVE ROCK N ROLL!
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    axl can do whatever the F he wants and unless u have walked a mile in his shoes then u got no say on nuttin

    he's earned that respect imo
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    rrivers wrote:
    Interesting from Duff:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/thelife/ ... id=7799013

    Interesting that he wants to come off as so cool and everyday guy as he promotes his trashy tabloid looking book, what a phony. He actually belongs in the HOF with all the other phony acts who are just interested in self promotion and glorification.

    It's really so easy to hate on Axl and simply dismiss him as another megalomaniac a-hole I suppose. But but in fact Axl really seems like the only one that has moved on. Duff selling this book, Steven Adler on celebrity rehab, and Slash with that same stupid hair and hat selling himself to Black Eyed Peas, or whoever it was, for a lame Superbowl halftime set. None of that really seems "Rock n Roll" to me.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    marcos wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Interesting from Duff:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/thelife/ ... id=7799013

    But but in fact Axl really seems like the only one that has moved on.

    Don't know about that. Some who has truly moved on shouldn't have trouble getting up on stage to play some songs for 8 minutes in celebration of their successes.

    Axl used a divorce as an analogy in his letter. My divorced parents can still have dinner together during the holidays and can meet up during family celebrations and then carry on with their current lives afterwards....that's what moving looks like.
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Don't know about that. Some who has truly moved on shouldn't have trouble getting up on stage to play some songs for 8 minutes in celebration of their successes.

    Axl used a divorce as an analogy in his letter. My divorced parents can still have dinner together during the holidays and can meet up during family celebrations and then carry on with their current lives afterwards....that's what moving looks like.

    That's a good point but this was an extremely ugly divorce and there's still constant feuding going on. Axl is not the most reasonable person as we all have learned in the last 20 years. Although it has been more than 15 years since they disbanded maybe the wounds or whatever made them hate each other so much have not healed. But with Duff writing that tabloid style book and Slash constantly going on about how bad Axl was to work with keep adding fuel to the; and Axl has made some disparaging comments over the years as well.

    And putting aside their differences for "the fans" for the Rock HOF would be disingenuous for a number of reasons. First there is still a lot that has obviously not been resolved and in reality the HOF have nothing to do with the fans anyway.

    And yes it should be obvious that I hate the HOF because of it's of it's phoniness and am an Axl fan once again since he blew me away on the club tour. So maybe my judgements are somewhat bias though I do understand your reasoning for asking him to act like an adult.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    marcos wrote:
    mookeywrench wrote:
    Don't know about that. Some who has truly moved on shouldn't have trouble getting up on stage to play some songs for 8 minutes in celebration of their successes.

    Axl used a divorce as an analogy in his letter. My divorced parents can still have dinner together during the holidays and can meet up during family celebrations and then carry on with their current lives afterwards....that's what moving looks like.

    That's a good point but this was an extremely ugly divorce and there's still constant feuding going on. Axl is not the most reasonable person as we all have learned in the last 20 years. Although it has been more than 15 years since they disbanded maybe the wounds or whatever made them hate each other so much have not healed. But with Duff writing that tabloid style book and Slash constantly going on about how bad Axl was to work with keep adding fuel to the; and Axl has made some disparaging comments over the years as well.

    And putting aside their differences for "the fans" for the Rock HOF would be disingenuous for a number of reasons. First there is still a lot that has obviously not been resolved and in reality the HOF have nothing to do with the fans anyway.

    And yes it should be obvious that I hate the HOF because of it's of it's phoniness and am an Axl fan once again since he blew me away on the club tour. So maybe my judgements are somewhat bias though I do understand your reasoning for asking him to act like an adult.

    I agree. But if his case is as you say, he shouldn't present himself in his letter as though he's taking the high road and is in a healthy place with the band. He should just be more transparent and say that he still doesn't get along with others in the band. That could condense his letter quite a bit.

    Another thing with the letter is that he presented it as though if he showed up to the HOF then that meant that the old Guns n Roses would have to get together permanently and do a full blown tour. That made his case completely irrational.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    mookeywrench wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Interesting from Duff:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/thelife/ ... id=7799013

    But but in fact Axl really seems like the only one that has moved on.

    Don't know about that. Some who has truly moved on shouldn't have trouble getting up on stage to play some songs for 8 minutes in celebration of their successes.

    Axl used a divorce as an analogy in his letter. My divorced parents can still have dinner together during the holidays and can meet up during family celebrations and then carry on with their current lives afterwards....that's what moving looks like.

    Yeah, but your parents aren't being asked to go on stage and have sex with each other while their current companions sit in the worldwide audience that they were forced to buy tickets to get into. And then get on with their normal lives afterward.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • pjamaholic
    pjamaholic Posts: 1,225
    Mike Gossard wrote:
    Nothing happened between them except Axl is a control freak/egomaniac, and he was tired of being treated as an employee by Axl. Also Slash wrote songs for Guns that Axl rejected. Those songs went on Slash's 1st solo record in 1995, before he left Guns. Then Axl was pissed that he used them elswhere. So there is no pleasing Axl.

    The guy's a dickhead, simple as that. I cant stand him! The band would do better to find a decent lead singer and tour without him. Someone who's actually got a good voice, cos Axl hasn't.
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    marcos wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Interesting from Duff:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/thelife/ ... id=7799013

    Interesting that he wants to come off as so cool and everyday guy as he promotes his trashy tabloid looking book, what a phony. He actually belongs in the HOF with all the other phony acts who are just interested in self promotion and glorification.

    It's really so easy to hate on Axl and simply dismiss him as another megalomaniac a-hole I suppose. But but in fact Axl really seems like the only one that has moved on. Duff selling this book, Steven Adler on celebrity rehab, and Slash with that same stupid hair and hat selling himself to Black Eyed Peas, or whoever it was, for a lame Superbowl halftime set. None of that really seems "Rock n Roll" to me.

    How can Axl be the one who moved on when he's still playing under the name "Guns N Roses"?
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Yeah, but your parents aren't being asked to go on stage and have sex with each other while their current companions sit in the worldwide audience that they were forced to buy tickets to get into. And then get on with their normal lives afterward.

    If the other band members have a problem with it they should have their own HoF worthy career.

    I think you're analogy takes it alot further than playing a few songs in recognition of the honor.
  • marcos
    marcos Posts: 2,112
    rrivers wrote:
    marcos wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Interesting from Duff:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/thelife/ ... id=7799013

    Interesting that he wants to come off as so cool and everyday guy as he promotes his trashy tabloid looking book, what a phony. He actually belongs in the HOF with all the other phony acts who are just interested in self promotion and glorification.

    It's really so easy to hate on Axl and simply dismiss him as another megalomaniac a-hole I suppose. But but in fact Axl really seems like the only one that has moved on. Duff selling this book, Steven Adler on celebrity rehab, and Slash with that same stupid hair and hat selling himself to Black Eyed Peas, or whoever it was, for a lame Superbowl halftime set. None of that really seems "Rock n Roll" to me.

    How can Axl be the one who moved on when he's still playing under the name "Guns N Roses"?

    Axl legally bought them out and they're the ones still complaining about how bad he is/was to work with. Especially Duff selling himself with tabloid style book. I usually like Duff but that book makes him look real cheap. He is not the every guy dude that he tries to portray right now. I get that it's the only time people really pay attention to Duff, Slash, or Adler so perhaps after this weekend they will move on and stop selling themselves based on a over 20 year old brand.
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Again, Axl is touring as Guns N Roses, so, again, how are the other guys "selling themselves based on a over 20 year old brand" and Axl isn't?
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Is this airing on TV somewhere? I want to see the live performances! Drama aside :D
  • Constant Recoil...
    Constant Recoil... Posts: 1,276
    Suziemay wrote:
    Is this airing on TV somewhere? I want to see the live performances! Drama aside :D

    Same here :)
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Constant Recoil... wrote:
    Suziemay wrote:
    Is this airing on TV somewhere? I want to see the live performances! Drama aside :D

    Same here :)

    :( I don't think there is. Found this here: http://rockhall.com/event/2012-induction-simulcast/

    See the 2012 Induction Ceremony on HBO on May 5.

    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum will host a live broadcast of the 27th Annual Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony at the Museum. Other than at Public Hall, the simulcast will be the only place to watch the Induction Ceremony live on the night of the event.

    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum will simulcast the 3+ hour ceremony, including the performances and presentations. The broadcast will be on a giant 12-foot screen on the Museum’s Main Stage and several large screens throughout the Museum’s theaters. All exhibits will be open to tour during the event, including the Museum’s newest exhibits, the Grateful Dead: The Long, Strange Trip and the 2012 Hall of Fame Inductees exhibit.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    DewieCox wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    Yeah, but your parents aren't being asked to go on stage and have sex with each other while their current companions sit in the worldwide audience that they were forced to buy tickets to get into. And then get on with their normal lives afterward.

    If the other band members have a problem with it they should have their own HoF worthy career.

    I think you're analogy takes it alot further than playing a few songs in recognition of the honor.

    It is? What else could the guys do on stage together? Is there further they could go? :corn:
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    EdsonNascimento wrote:

    Yeah, but your parents aren't being asked to go on stage and have sex with each other while their current companions sit in the worldwide audience that they were forced to buy tickets to get into. And then get on with their normal lives afterward.

    You're right, but this has nothing to do with Axl and his current situation.

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