these are some additional things i am saying as a non paul voter.
27. i will never vote for a republican, even if jesus christ came back and ran in 2016.
28. i will never vote for the man who spawned rand paul.
29. i will never vote for someone who is pro-life.
30. i will never vote for another texan in any race at any time in my life.
31. i will never vote for someone who will never ever consider raising taxes when necessary. shit happens sometimes and we might need that increased revenue.
32. i will never vote for a man who is more concerned about freedom vs. tyranny than doing the right thing.
33. i will never vote for someone who champions state's rights over everything else.
34. i will never vote for a man who will cut medicare, medicaid, or any other publicly funded program that is there as a safety net to help the elderly, infirmed, or less fortunate.
those are just a few off the top of my head that i did not put much effort into.. i am sure if it were worthwhile to me i could come up with more, but i am pretty much just over the know it all, condescending tone of the blogger who came up with that list....talk about generalizations and shoveling words into peoples' mouths.... sheesh...
This is the perfect summary of my problem with the average voter.
yeah, it is pretty disgusting. before you take a pot shot at Paul, get your facts right.
really?
i hate to be the guy to burst anybody's bubble, but here is a fact for you.
ron paul will never ever be president of the united states.
i know it hurts, but it is the truth.
let's not delude ourselves here, ok?
that is solely because as much as everyone bitches about change...no one wants any...They all want to pretend it is only the other side that needs to change...
Paul could be President. Absolutely could...it is just a matter of delegates man. If no one has any majority going to the convention things will change quickly...hopefully I will be at the national convention, but I will go as far as a can to support Ron Paul in MN as a delegate (we actually have 4 meetings to do this) and the change he actually represents...
you aren't bursting my bubble, I feel good about supporting a candidate that I feel would benefit the country greatly, win or lose...stranger things have happened...I mean GW got a second term...if that can happen anything can.
as far as the Maine stuff
why don't we wait until the other 16% are counted. They will be counted whether it is official or not. My guess is he will end up with almost all the delegates from Maine no matter what
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
these are some additional things i am saying as a non paul voter.
27. i will never vote for a republican, even if jesus christ came back and ran in 2016.
28. i will never vote for the man who spawned rand paul.
29. i will never vote for someone who is pro-life.
30. i will never vote for another texan in any race at any time in my life.
31. i will never vote for someone who will never ever consider raising taxes when necessary. shit happens sometimes and we might need that increased revenue.
32. i will never vote for a man who is more concerned about freedom vs. tyranny than doing the right thing.
33. i will never vote for someone who champions state's rights over everything else.
34. i will never vote for a man who will cut medicare, medicaid, or any other publicly funded program that is there as a safety net to help the elderly, infirmed, or less fortunate.
those are just a few off the top of my head that i did not put much effort into.. i am sure if it were worthwhile to me i could come up with more, but i am pretty much just over the know it all, condescending tone of the blogger who came up with that list....talk about generalizations and shoveling words into peoples' mouths.... sheesh...
Was almost like it was a joke, but it's not.
After reading these, I think I officially confirmed who the biggest kool-aid drinker in the entire MT is. I can't say I'm really that surprised based on previous posts praising everything Democrats do. Anyways... congrats,.. that's quite an accomplishment.
After reading these, I think I officially confirmed who the biggest kool-aid drinker in the entire MT is. I can't say I'm really that surprised based on previous posts praising everything Democrats do. Anyways... congrats,.. that's quite an accomplishment.
I'd be careful using a kool-aid reference in a Ron Paul thread. If anyone's supporters could be accused of cult-like behavior, it would be his.
After reading these, I think I officially confirmed who the biggest kool-aid drinker in the entire MT is. I can't say I'm really that surprised based on previous posts praising everything Democrats do. Anyways... congrats,.. that's quite an accomplishment.
I'd be careful using a kool-aid reference in a Ron Paul thread. If anyone's supporters could be accused of cult-like behavior, it would be his.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
After reading these, I think I officially confirmed who the biggest kool-aid drinker in the entire MT is. I can't say I'm really that surprised based on previous posts praising everything Democrats do. Anyways... congrats,.. that's quite an accomplishment.
I'd be careful using a kool-aid reference in a Ron Paul thread. If anyone's supporters could be accused of cult-like behavior, it would be his.
What I meant by kool-aid drinker is someone with an unquestioning belief in a political party's ideology.
So, difference is - Ron Paul supporters don't toe the party line whatsoever. Most of them are either former Republicans or former Democrats who are/were disenchanted with their former party. In that very sense, it runs completely counter to being a kool-aid drinker. These supporters are people who basically abandoned their former ideology (or party), in favor of a new one.
So tell me why isnt the man (Ron Paul) running as an Independent then? Or on another ticket not supported by either party?
Just sayin.
he is the only true republican left. the rest should leave and form their own party. They can call it the fiddling Nero's
the immortal words of Michael Bolton seem fitting here..."why should I have to change...he's the one who sucks"
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
So tell me why isnt the man (Ron Paul) running as an Independent then? Or on another ticket not supported by either party?
Just sayin.
I've often wondered the same thing.
Well, that is just one reason personal opinions leading me that he is a fraud.
Why not change? The party did? Why does he have to champion the party? Let it die. In actuality if he is what he claims to be why try to change the minds of the 99% in his party? Much easier and say my views represent this party now or Independent from these parties. Im sorry that is ridiculous and not a very good political move if you ask me. Parties change over time.
Democrats during the civil war were mostly confederate racists, lol, can you imagine if they knew that their party now supports President Obama?
I'd be careful using a kool-aid reference in a Ron Paul thread. If anyone's supporters could be accused of cult-like behavior, it would be his.
^^^^^
pretty much....
i am just being honest about paul's chances to win....
you all should be honest about it too.
santorum surging in the polls tells me all i need to know about where the gop is heading. and that is not in the direction of ron paul...
paul should run as an independant, but he would need gop money from the national party to even run a serious campaign in the general election.
even if by some miracle paul gets the nomination, and by another miracle he wins the election his agenda will never get out of congress. he will be a lame duck on day one.
and yes he will cut medicare. not for those currently on it, but for people under a certain age, and that is not right. i would not want that safety net to be taken away from my kids or grandkids.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
So tell me why isnt the man (Ron Paul) running as an Independent then? Or on another ticket not supported by either party?
Just sayin.
I've often wondered the same thing.
Well, that is just one reason personal opinions leading me that he is a fraud.
Why not change? The party did? Why does he have to champion the party? Let it die. In actuality if he is what he claims to be why try to change the minds of the 99% in his party? Much easier and say my views represent this party now or Independent from these parties. Im sorry that is ridiculous and not a very good political move if you ask me. Parties change over time.
Democrats during the civil war were mostly confederate racists, lol, can you imagine if they knew that their party now supports President Obama?
he has changed in the past, renounced the republican party in 1987 I believe...said they had lost their way. But instead of giving up and leaving the party to the mindless idiots with a shit load of influence, don't you think it is at all admirable to try to change the party platform from inside rather than give up and go against it. His point is that they talk about the things he talks about, but when they get in power they never DO the things they talk about...everyone of them talks about the constitution, but which one is willing to follow it strictly?
Coming from a supporter, I would rather him try to change the republican party platform from the inside than run as an independent. This doesn't make him a fraud.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Well he has a shit job to do to win over people with independent hearts. GOP has a bad reputation with people who fight for human progress.
My gut and things Ive seen makes still think he is a fraud.
Sorry.
you are right. He does have a shit job to do...I wish him the best. I have never and will never support another GOP candidate who doesn't have Paul's platform and integrity (I think that means I will never support one again)
and again you say "things i have seen" and have yet to really give any specific examples unless I missed one. I am sure they are out there, you might as well find one just to shut me up.
You think he is a fraud, that is fine
I think i am a millionaire
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Well he has a shit job to do to win over people with independent hearts. GOP has a bad reputation with people who fight for human progress.
My gut and things Ive seen makes still think he is a fraud.
Sorry.
Maybe what your gut is feeling is actually an imbalance in its bacterial flora and you are confusing that feeling. I would recommend trying some of this :
Also, on the topic of how some feel Ron Paul should run as an independent. You all who think this already feel as if he has no chance in the Republican primary. What makes you think he would have even more of a chance as an independent? Our system is so fucked that anything outside of the 2 parties is basically null and void from the beginning. There is far more chance of having an impact in working within the 2 party system and trying to make changes from within than to try to start from the ground up. People have tried independent presidential runs in the past and they haven't really made much headway there.
I've seen people post here in the past that to make any real change you need to start at the local level and that the President won't be able to change anything. Gimme, you yourself alude to this with your statement that a Ron Paul presidency will be a lame duck from day one. Well, I think you all need to lay off this "He should run Independent" business because even if he doesn't become the Republican candidate his run has inspired many people to work at the local level. This inspiration is already underway in setting up the groundwork to inact real change at the local levels in many states .
Futhermore, as others have already pointed out, the party has abandoned its principals, why should he have to leave?
We've gone over why he doesn't run as an independent a number of times. The guy is realistic. He knows that we live in a two-party system. He ran for President as a liberatarian in the past. He's learned from that, Perot and even Nader's outcomes. He knows that the only way to have a true lasting impact is to alter the two-party system from within.
In other words, he doesn't run as an Independent because he knows if he did, he would not impact policy whatsoever. An independent (or third party) candidate will not win, regardless of who they are. The only way to actually alter policy is to either win the Presidency or alter party platforms. He's trying to do that.
So what your basically saying its okay for Ron Paul to change policy as President/Party Platform (if he makes it into office) but its a shit shame crying foul when Obama does it? thats just fucked up... and even if he did make it with this "integrity" what makes you think either party will let him make this change to the country?
So what your basically saying its okay for Ron Paul to change policy as President/Platform (if he makes it into office) but its a shit shame crying foul when Obama does it? thats just fucked up... and even if he did make it with this "integrity" what makes you think either party will let him make this change to the country?
OMG
What policy changes has Obama enacted that currently, directly oppose the standard democratic platform/party direction? Does the democratic party want to throw him out?
which change in policy are you talking about specifically that has people up in " a shit shame crying foul" that opposes what the democratic party stands for?
as for what Ron Paul can do to change the system,
if you are talking about closing military bases around the world? easy he is the commander - in - chief.
auditing the fed. an executive order would probably cover it...
War on drugs is simply a case of executive power of adjusting schedule levels of the drugs. Which I believe they can do without congressional approval.
use the justice department to challenge laws and government actions that are unconstitutional.
VETO VETO VETO spending bills without balancing the budget
Veto bills that contain government subsidies.
Actually talk to the American people like grown ups and not a group of assholes.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
So what your basically saying its okay for Ron Paul to change policy as President/Party Platform (if he makes it into office) but its a shit shame crying foul when Obama does it? thats just fucked up... and even if he did make it with this "integrity" what makes you think either party will let him make this change to the country?
OMG
No offense, but I don't think you're even trying to understand.
You asked - why doesn't he run independent? I answered the question. He realizes he can't win as an independent, and therefore, nothing would be gained. His goal is to influence policy. The way to do that is to choose a party and sway that party's ideology towards his own. Has President Obama dramatically shifted the Democratic party platform? I'd argue, no he has not. Just like I'd say President Bush did not really shift the Republican party platform. I don't think either one really cared about shifting policies, they just wanted to be President. The two parties are machines and it takes real tough work to bend them. Those who try to bend the platform, are typically labeled and cast aside. This a guy who is trying to alter the machine, and based on his following, he could actually gain some ground with proper support and attention.
After reading these, I think I officially confirmed who the biggest kool-aid drinker in the entire MT is. I can't say I'm really that surprised based on previous posts praising everything Democrats do. Anyways... congrats,.. that's quite an accomplishment.
I'd be careful using a kool-aid reference in a Ron Paul thread. If anyone's supporters could be accused of cult-like behavior, it would be his.
What I meant by kool-aid drinker is someone with an unquestioning belief in a political party's ideology.
So, difference is - Ron Paul supporters don't toe the party line whatsoever. Most of them are either former Republicans or former Democrats who are/were disenchanted with their former party. In that very sense, it runs completely counter to being a kool-aid drinker. These supporters are people who basically abandoned their former ideology (or party), in favor of a new one.
And I would say that many of those supporters toe the line of the new ideology/party.
I still see both your answers as insane inhumane GOP fodder no matter how "liberal" and free you think you are from the mainstream GOP platform.
Jokingly, Id say you take the Ron Paul road. You'll be drinking piss in a desert with rioting abounds. Tell me how that Love Revolution works for you and come back and see me after you do.
And I would say that many of those supporters toe the line of the new ideology/party.
Well, I suppose you could say they believe in the cause, but the difference is:
1) This is a semi-new / non-mainstream ideology, hoping to go mainstream, unlike the established ideologies/parties.
2) Those who are believe in the new ideology have already shown that they are capable of switching their views (most were R's or D's prior)
I still see both your answers as insane inhumane GOP fodder no matter how "liberal" and free you think you are from the mainstream GOP platform.
Jokingly, Id say you take the Ron Paul road. You'll be drinking piss in a desert with rioting abounds. Tell me how that Love Revolution works for you and come back and see me after you do.
I still see both your answers as insane inhumane GOP fodder no matter how "liberal" and free you think you are from the mainstream GOP platform.
Jokingly, Id say you take the Ron Paul road. You'll be drinking piss in a desert with rioting abounds. Tell me how that Love Revolution works for you and come back and see me after you do.
do you think it is a successful policy to consistently spend more than you take in? do you think that is smart?
what don't I understand? How will he be the ruin of our country? why will I be in the desert drinking piss?
why don't you come back and see me when you are burning your worthless dollars for heat in a garbage can.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
By that time, Ill be dead so it doesnt matter to me and paths of Exodus from such a hell have already been laid.
But See, thats exactly what you want. Thats exactly what Ive been fighting to avoid. Dumb crap like this. So we can go in circles up to you, but see you still havent got the script on the pathways out. So. What is it gonna be?
By that time, Ill be dead so it doesnt matter to me and paths of Exodus from such a hell have already been laid.
But See, thats exactly what you want. Thats exactly what Ive been fighting to avoid. Dumb crap like this. So we can go in circles up to you, but see you still havent got the script on the pathways out. So. What is it gonna be?
I have no idea what you are referring to - what dumb crap?
your posts have a lot of words but no answers.
The end of the dollar will be soon if we do not do something drastic to our monetary policy...the student loan bubble burst is coming soon
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
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This is the perfect summary of my problem with the average voter.
that is solely because as much as everyone bitches about change...no one wants any...They all want to pretend it is only the other side that needs to change...
Paul could be President. Absolutely could...it is just a matter of delegates man. If no one has any majority going to the convention things will change quickly...hopefully I will be at the national convention, but I will go as far as a can to support Ron Paul in MN as a delegate (we actually have 4 meetings to do this) and the change he actually represents...
you aren't bursting my bubble, I feel good about supporting a candidate that I feel would benefit the country greatly, win or lose...stranger things have happened...I mean GW got a second term...if that can happen anything can.
as far as the Maine stuff
why don't we wait until the other 16% are counted. They will be counted whether it is official or not. My guess is he will end up with almost all the delegates from Maine no matter what
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Was almost like it was a joke, but it's not.
After reading these, I think I officially confirmed who the biggest kool-aid drinker in the entire MT is. I can't say I'm really that surprised based on previous posts praising everything Democrats do. Anyways... congrats,.. that's quite an accomplishment.
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I'd be careful using a kool-aid reference in a Ron Paul thread. If anyone's supporters could be accused of cult-like behavior, it would be his.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
What I meant by kool-aid drinker is someone with an unquestioning belief in a political party's ideology.
So, difference is - Ron Paul supporters don't toe the party line whatsoever. Most of them are either former Republicans or former Democrats who are/were disenchanted with their former party. In that very sense, it runs completely counter to being a kool-aid drinker. These supporters are people who basically abandoned their former ideology (or party), in favor of a new one.
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More on the subject. At the end of the segment with the video of one of the GOP Chairmen from Maine is very telling if you ask me.
http://www.fox19.com/story/16937227/rea ... d-in-maine
Just sayin.
he is the only true republican left. the rest should leave and form their own party. They can call it the fiddling Nero's
the immortal words of Michael Bolton seem fitting here..."why should I have to change...he's the one who sucks"
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Why not change? The party did? Why does he have to champion the party? Let it die. In actuality if he is what he claims to be why try to change the minds of the 99% in his party? Much easier and say my views represent this party now or Independent from these parties. Im sorry that is ridiculous and not a very good political move if you ask me. Parties change over time.
Democrats during the civil war were mostly confederate racists, lol, can you imagine if they knew that their party now supports President Obama?
pretty much....
i am just being honest about paul's chances to win....
you all should be honest about it too.
santorum surging in the polls tells me all i need to know about where the gop is heading. and that is not in the direction of ron paul...
paul should run as an independant, but he would need gop money from the national party to even run a serious campaign in the general election.
even if by some miracle paul gets the nomination, and by another miracle he wins the election his agenda will never get out of congress. he will be a lame duck on day one.
and yes he will cut medicare. not for those currently on it, but for people under a certain age, and that is not right. i would not want that safety net to be taken away from my kids or grandkids.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
he has changed in the past, renounced the republican party in 1987 I believe...said they had lost their way. But instead of giving up and leaving the party to the mindless idiots with a shit load of influence, don't you think it is at all admirable to try to change the party platform from inside rather than give up and go against it. His point is that they talk about the things he talks about, but when they get in power they never DO the things they talk about...everyone of them talks about the constitution, but which one is willing to follow it strictly?
Coming from a supporter, I would rather him try to change the republican party platform from the inside than run as an independent. This doesn't make him a fraud.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
My gut and things Ive seen makes still think he is a fraud.
Sorry.
you are right. He does have a shit job to do...I wish him the best. I have never and will never support another GOP candidate who doesn't have Paul's platform and integrity (I think that means I will never support one again)
and again you say "things i have seen" and have yet to really give any specific examples unless I missed one. I am sure they are out there, you might as well find one just to shut me up.
You think he is a fraud, that is fine
I think i am a millionaire
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Maybe what your gut is feeling is actually an imbalance in its bacterial flora and you are confusing that feeling. I would recommend trying some of this :
Also, on the topic of how some feel Ron Paul should run as an independent. You all who think this already feel as if he has no chance in the Republican primary. What makes you think he would have even more of a chance as an independent? Our system is so fucked that anything outside of the 2 parties is basically null and void from the beginning. There is far more chance of having an impact in working within the 2 party system and trying to make changes from within than to try to start from the ground up. People have tried independent presidential runs in the past and they haven't really made much headway there.
I've seen people post here in the past that to make any real change you need to start at the local level and that the President won't be able to change anything. Gimme, you yourself alude to this with your statement that a Ron Paul presidency will be a lame duck from day one. Well, I think you all need to lay off this "He should run Independent" business because even if he doesn't become the Republican candidate his run has inspired many people to work at the local level. This inspiration is already underway in setting up the groundwork to inact real change at the local levels in many states .
Futhermore, as others have already pointed out, the party has abandoned its principals, why should he have to leave?
Looks like Rachel Maddow is even talking about the voter fraud in Maine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHLXsgn4 ... _embedded#!
Just curious...
Do you think he's more of a fraud then Obama or Romney? Why?
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In other words, he doesn't run as an Independent because he knows if he did, he would not impact policy whatsoever. An independent (or third party) candidate will not win, regardless of who they are. The only way to actually alter policy is to either win the Presidency or alter party platforms. He's trying to do that.
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What policy changes has Obama enacted that currently, directly oppose the standard democratic platform/party direction? Does the democratic party want to throw him out?
which change in policy are you talking about specifically that has people up in " a shit shame crying foul" that opposes what the democratic party stands for?
as for what Ron Paul can do to change the system,
if you are talking about closing military bases around the world? easy he is the commander - in - chief.
auditing the fed. an executive order would probably cover it...
War on drugs is simply a case of executive power of adjusting schedule levels of the drugs. Which I believe they can do without congressional approval.
use the justice department to challenge laws and government actions that are unconstitutional.
VETO VETO VETO spending bills without balancing the budget
Veto bills that contain government subsidies.
Actually talk to the American people like grown ups and not a group of assholes.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
No offense, but I don't think you're even trying to understand.
You asked - why doesn't he run independent? I answered the question. He realizes he can't win as an independent, and therefore, nothing would be gained. His goal is to influence policy. The way to do that is to choose a party and sway that party's ideology towards his own. Has President Obama dramatically shifted the Democratic party platform? I'd argue, no he has not. Just like I'd say President Bush did not really shift the Republican party platform. I don't think either one really cared about shifting policies, they just wanted to be President. The two parties are machines and it takes real tough work to bend them. Those who try to bend the platform, are typically labeled and cast aside. This a guy who is trying to alter the machine, and based on his following, he could actually gain some ground with proper support and attention.
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And I would say that many of those supporters toe the line of the new ideology/party.
Its quite obvious you dont understand.
I still see both your answers as insane inhumane GOP fodder no matter how "liberal" and free you think you are from the mainstream GOP platform.
Jokingly, Id say you take the Ron Paul road. You'll be drinking piss in a desert with rioting abounds. Tell me how that Love Revolution works for you and come back and see me after you do.
Well, I suppose you could say they believe in the cause, but the difference is:
1) This is a semi-new / non-mainstream ideology, hoping to go mainstream, unlike the established ideologies/parties.
2) Those who are believe in the new ideology have already shown that they are capable of switching their views (most were R's or D's prior)
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mature.
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My opinion.
do you think it is a successful policy to consistently spend more than you take in? do you think that is smart?
what don't I understand? How will he be the ruin of our country? why will I be in the desert drinking piss?
why don't you come back and see me when you are burning your worthless dollars for heat in a garbage can.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
But See, thats exactly what you want. Thats exactly what Ive been fighting to avoid. Dumb crap like this. So we can go in circles up to you, but see you still havent got the script on the pathways out. So. What is it gonna be?
I have no idea what you are referring to - what dumb crap?
your posts have a lot of words but no answers.
The end of the dollar will be soon if we do not do something drastic to our monetary policy...the student loan bubble burst is coming soon
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan