26 Things Non-Paul Voters Are Basically Saying

WaveRyder

hilarious, sad, and true

http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/26-things- ... ly-saying/

SweetChildofMine

I might change my vote if he changes his GOP affiliation. -

SweetChildofMine

Young voters are enamored by his lies.

SweetChildofMine

Are we supposed to list 26?

WaveRyder

neither party is in step with his views. The Dems are addicted to welfare, the Repubs are addicted to warfare.

and what lies? Name one, please.

SweetChildofMine

I don't follow the specific antics of Ron Paul. I have though see him flip flop political views in the matter of flipping from news channel to news channel. Which has turned me off completely.

War is a problem... welfare is not. You want to fix the world it starts with humanitarian effort which by the way is welfare. You know why its called welfare? Because you care about the "Welfare" of your fellow citizens and reguard them as human beings.


(in personal beliefs, I do know his son defiled a God I believe in, which doesnt say much because i respect most deities)

gimmesometruth27

these are some additional things i am saying as a non paul voter.

27. i will never vote for a republican, even if jesus christ came back and ran in 2016.

28. i will never vote for the man who spawned rand paul.

29. i will never vote for someone who is pro-life.

30. i will never vote for another texan in any race at any time in my life.

31. i will never vote for someone who will never ever consider raising taxes when necessary. shit happens sometimes and we might need that increased revenue.

32. i will never vote for a man who is more concerned about freedom vs. tyranny than doing the right thing.

33. i will never vote for someone who champions state's rights over everything else.

34. i will never vote for a man who will cut medicare, medicaid, or any other publicly funded program that is there as a safety net to help the elderly, infirmed, or less fortunate.

those are just a few off the top of my head that i did not put much effort into.. i am sure if it were worthwhile to me i could come up with more, but i am pretty much just over the know it all, condescending tone of the blogger who came up with that list....talk about generalizations and shoveling words into peoples' mouths.... sheesh...

WaveRyder

SweetChildofMine wrote:

I don't follow the specific antics of Ron Paul. I have though see him flip flop political views in the matter of flipping from news channel to news channel. Which has turned me off completely.

then surely you can give an example of a flipflop.

WaveRyder

SweetChildofMine wrote:

I don't follow the specific antics of Ron Paul. I have though see him flip flop political views in the matter of flipping from news channel to news channel. Which has turned me off completely.

then surely you can give an example of a flipflop.

CH156378

Ron Paul had a rough night last night. :-| . It must be disappointing considering these were caucuses and that was supposed to be his best shot at a primary win. But I find it sad to blame the voter for your canidates horrible showing last night. Face it. End the Fed and rEVOLution are not winning stratagies and your canidate is not the leader you wish he was.

SweetChildofMine

WaveRyder wrote:

SweetChildofMine wrote:

I don't follow the specific antics of Ron Paul. I have though see him flip flop political views in the matter of flipping from news channel to news channel. Which has turned me off completely.

then surely you can give an example of a flipflop.

This is a flip flop:

I watch so much bs it was a flip flop on a GOP policy like the rest of them. I flipped from news channel to another and viola! he was speaking live against just what I saw him speak live for. Sorry, I didnt write it down, it was last year at this time. Thats all I remember, after that point it was enough for me to turn him off.

A specific on the issue, I dont remember. I do remember when I first see him speak I was like wow! nice guy, flipped the channel and said holy crap was I wrong! Channel flipping from MSNBC to Fox.

WaveRyder

(Facepalm) There are a lot legitimate reasons not to like or support Paul but you are the only person calling him a flipflopper. Surely you can google something....no wait...you can't. There has never been anyone as consistent as ron paul and even his most critical adversaries admit that he's consistent. Calling him a flipflopper shows just how far removed from political reality you must be. Now, if you want to talk flip flops, let's talk Romney, Obama, Newt and Santorum.

WaveRyder

SweetChildofMine wrote:

I don't follow the specific antics of Ron Paul. I have though see him flip flop political views in the matter of flipping from news channel to news channel. Which has turned me off completely.

War is a problem... welfare is not. You want to fix the world it starts with humanitarian effort which by the way is welfare. You know why its called welfare? Because you care about the "Welfare" of your fellow citizens and reguard them as human beings.


(in personal beliefs, I do know his son defiled a God I believe in, which doesnt say much because i respect most deities)

How many gods do you believe in?

WaveRyder

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

these are some additional things i am saying as a non paul voter.

27. i will never vote for a republican, even if jesus christ came back and ran in 2016.

28. i will never vote for the man who spawned rand paul.

29. i will never vote for someone who is pro-life.

30. i will never vote for another texan in any race at any time in my life.

31. i will never vote for someone who will never ever consider raising taxes when necessary. shit happens sometimes and we might need that increased revenue.

32. i will never vote for a man who is more concerned about freedom vs. tyranny than doing the right thing.

33. i will never vote for someone who champions state's rights over everything else.

34. i will never vote for a man who will cut medicare, medicaid, or any other publicly funded program that is there as a safety net to help the elderly, infirmed, or less fortunate.

those are just a few off the top of my head that i did not put much effort into.. i am sure if it were worthwhile to me i could come up with more, but i am pretty much just over the know it all, condescending tone of the blogger who came up with that list....talk about generalizations and shoveling words into peoples' mouths.... sheesh...

I'm posting from my phone today so I won't be responding to this until tomorrow....there's just too much BS to dive into on a Droid.

Prince Of Dorkness

Democrats are not addicted to welfare and saying something that downright silly isn't going to win you anything but rolled eyes.

I'm a democrat, a card carrying proud liberal and I'm willing to bet I make a hell of a lot more than you do. Not like it matters. We need to stop suggesting that republicans are all war mongers and democrats are all lazy and find a way to work together. And I don't personally think Ron Paul's "burn it all own, salt the earth and let people do whatever they want" is the answer.

And your list reads like it was written by a bratty high school student who says anyone with differing political views is stupid and uses terms like "conservatard" or "libby."

brianlux

What strikes me about this list is what it excludes. Woods mentions...

The economy (several times)
Education
Afghanistan
Cuba and Castro
Drugs and prison
The Constitution
Iraq
Gingrich
The Middle East,
"Indefinite detention for U.S. citizens"
The media
Romney

...but nowhere does he address environmental issues, particularly climate change.

So does that mean that Ron Paul supporters are saying, "We have all these things listed above to worry about- why bother with something as trivial as the environment?" I hope that's not what this means.

WaveRyder

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

Democrats are not addicted to welfare and saying something that downright silly isn't going to win you anything but rolled eyes.

I'm a democrat, a card carrying proud liberal and I'm willing to bet I make a hell of a lot more than you do. Not like it matters. We need to stop suggesting that republicans are all war mongers and democrats are all lazy and find a way to work together. And I don't personally think Ron Paul's "burn it all own, salt the earth and let people do whatever they want" is the answer.

And your list reads like it was written by a bratty high school student who says anyone with differing political views is stupid and uses terms like "conservatard" or "libby."

Whoa. I wasn't referring to income levels. I was saying dems are addicted to spending money on entitlement programs.even if we can't afford it..wasn't saying that ppl are dems because they're poor. Dems and repubs are addicted to spending money that we don't have. Sorry for the confusion. And its not my list....its a blog I thought id share here because I thought it was funny, sad and true. I didn't expect everybody to agree. Thanks for reading it, if you did.

WaveRyder

brianlux wrote:

What strikes me about this list is what it excludes. Woods mentions...

The economy (several times)
Education
Afghanistan
Cuba and Castro
Drugs and prison
The Constitution
Iraq
Gingrich
The Middle East,
"Indefinite detention for U.S. citizens"
The media
Romney

...but nowhere does he address environmental issues, particularly climate change.

So does that mean that Ron Paul supporters are saying, "We have all these things listed above to worry about- why bother with something as trivial as the environment?" I hope that's not what this means.

That's a good observation. I think Woods realizes that most GOPers AREN'T that concerned with the environment, if anything they think the epa is too big. The intent of the blog is to sway primary voters. And I will admit the environment isn't a tenant of ron pauls campaign like the other things listed. Even so, its my opinion that he's the best option for president we've had in a long long time and the most reasonable republican candidate we've ever had.

Prince Of Dorkness

WaveRyder wrote:

Whoa. I wasn't referring to income levels. I was saying dems are addicted to spending money on entitlement programs.even if we can't afford it..wasn't saying that ppl are dems because they're poor. Dems and repubs are addicted to spending money that we don't have. Sorry for the confusion. And its not my list....its a blog I thought id share here because I thought it was funny, sad and true. I didn't expect everybody to agree. Thanks for reading it, if you did.

Oh I always read the stuff you post. I seldom agree and I do poke at you with my devil's advocate arguments but I do at least try to understand what you're saying.

I don't agree about addicted to spending on entitlement programs. And usually when I ask specifically about which entitlements, people don't really have answers.

And if we pulled out of the war, we'd have plenty of money. Or taxed the people who have the money. Im one of the people who would pay more if the bush tax cuts expired. And I'm just fine with that. We'd all be better off.

kenny olav

Voters, it turns out, aren't naively idealistic libertarians. Ron Paul does speak some truth that the other Republicans will either avoid or ignorantly disavow, but he's still ignorant about reality in many ways himself.

Most people are not paranoid when it comes to the role of government. Most people think that the government should make sure everyone has health insurance, for example.

Ron Paul would not just abolish the Fed (which is probably a dumb idea), but he'd also abolish the HUD, which is an extremely dumb idea. Does he want to send all of the nation's homeless out into the mountains to look for gold, since it's the only viable currency, apparently?

He's an just old fool, mining for fools' gold, and he's found a lot of it out there, but he'll never find enough fools to get himself elected President.

unsung

SweetChildofMine wrote:

This is a flip flop:

I watch so much bs it was a flip flop on a GOP policy like the rest of them. I flipped from news channel to another and viola! he was speaking live against just what I saw him speak live for. Sorry, I didnt write it down, it was last year at this time. Thats all I remember, after that point it was enough for me to turn him off.

A specific on the issue, I dont remember. I do remember when I first see him speak I was like wow! nice guy, flipped the channel and said holy crap was I wrong! Channel flipping from MSNBC to Fox.

I call BS.