Bug out bags

DS1119

i remember I lost power three weeks ago during the Giants/Packers playoff game. It was out for almost three hours. I took four of my neighbors out and ate their dog. Semper fi bitches!!

WaveRyder

DS1119 wrote:

i remember I lost power three weeks ago during the Giants/Packers playoff game. It was out for almost three hours. I took four of my neighbors out and ate their dog.

i take it your a packers fan.

DS1119

WaveRyder wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

i remember I lost power three weeks ago during the Giants/Packers playoff game. It was out for almost three hours. I took four of my neighbors out and ate their dog.

i take it your a packers fan.

Neither. I just lost power...it was the middle of the winter and my surviavl instinct kicked in. German Shepard makes a fine meal!

voidofman

Not quite related:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhgEpT4f7p8

frazba

I never go out of the house without a can of this

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http ... CCkQ9QEwAw

It works too, I've never once been attacked by one

Be prepared

stargirl69

frazba wrote:

I never go out of the house without a can of this

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http ... CCkQ9QEwAw

It works too, I've never once been attacked by one

Be prepared

DS1119

frazba wrote:

I never go out of the house without a can of this

http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http ... CCkQ9QEwAw

It works too, I've never once been attacked by one

Be prepared

Carey

stargirl69 wrote:

frazba wrote:

I find this thread scary on several levels!

If I mentioned to my wife that I thought we needed one of these, she'd figure I already had bugged out

Me too .. I wonder why people are expecting urban warfare and if they are American? :? Don't mean to offend but I have never heard of such a thing.
When I lived in Canada we had a survival box with food,blankets and water in it but it wasn't for urban warfare it was because we were two hours drive from everywhere and often went without electricity.
I too find this mind set scary as :?

Oh actually, my little stash of stuff was assembled during tornado season, I had that in mind. We have had a few tornado seasons in recent years that leveled nearby towns. My house (at that time) was out in the middle of nowhere. So, I put things like water, snacks for the kids, battery operated radio, etc and stashed it in my basement.

DS1119

Carey wrote:

Oh actually, my little stash of stuff was assembled during tornado season, I had that in mind. We have had a few tornado seasons in recent years that leveled nearby towns. My house (at that time) was out in the middle of nowhere. So, I put things like water, snacks for the kids, battery operated radio, etc and stashed it in my basement.

This is more than acceptable. Now if you stocked that stash with a few hand grenades, an assault rifle, and some bullet proof vests...that would be a little extreme.

WaveRyder

People in LA start cars and fire and break out store-front windows when the Lakers win a game.............. if we go off the grid, I doubt it would be peaceful response by the masses.

Cosmo

Japan recently suffered a devestating earthquake and a follow-on disasterous, far reaching tsunami. Add on a nuclear plant meltdown that lead to a couple of large explosions and the leaking of radioactive material.
The Japanese people sat in the dark for several weeks and shared what litte food and remaining shelter they had with those who had nothing. Complete strangers, that just happened to be caught in the same nightmare.
...
What does that tell you about the Japanese people, in general?
To me? It tells me that that is the kind of people I would want Americans to be.

PureandEasy

Cosmo wrote:

Japan recently suffered a devestating earthquake and a follow-on disasterous, far reaching tsunami. Add on a nuclear plant meltdown that lead to a couple of large explosions and the leaking of radioactive material.
The Japanese people sat in the dark for several weeks and shared what litte food and remaining shelter they had with those who had nothing. Complete strangers, that just happened to be caught in the same nightmare.
...
What does that tell you about the Japanese people, in general?
To me? It tells me that that is the kind of people I would want Americans to be.

cosmo, always the voice of reason

why is it when something devastating happens here (i.e. Katrina), it brings out the ruthlessness in so many people - the vandalism, looting

it's a disgrace

as cosmo said, we could learn a lot from the Japanese

WaveRyder

Cosmo wrote:

Japan recently suffered a devestating earthquake and a follow-on disasterous, far reaching tsunami. Add on a nuclear plant meltdown that lead to a couple of large explosions and the leaking of radioactive material.
The Japanese people sat in the dark for several weeks and shared what litte food and remaining shelter they had with those who had nothing. Complete strangers, that just happened to be caught in the same nightmare.
...
What does that tell you about the Japanese people, in general?
To me? It tells me that that is the kind of people I would want Americans to be.

right. but the japanese have a disaster response training day every year and the country invests heavily in preparing its people for such disasters. we dont..... we should.

DS1119

Cosmo wrote:

Japan recently suffered a devestating earthquake and a follow-on disasterous, far reaching tsunami. Add on a nuclear plant meltdown that lead to a couple of large explosions and the leaking of radioactive material.
The Japanese people sat in the dark for several weeks and shared what litte food and remaining shelter they had with those who had nothing. Complete strangers, that just happened to be caught in the same nightmare.
...
What does that tell you about the Japanese people, in general?
To me? It tells me that that is the kind of people I would want Americans to be.

So you mean they didn't have bug out bags stuffed with assault rifles and grenades ready to kill any rapists or looters?

Cosmo

WaveRyder wrote:

right. but the japanese have a disaster response training day every year and the country invests heavily in preparing its people for such disasters. we dont..... we should.

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Agreed.
But, lack of preparadeness does not make us barbarians. The bottom line... we are STILL Americans, even after a disaster, aren't we? That should count for something, right? If it does not, what does that tell us about ourselves... about America?
I have a modest earthquake preparadness kit in my garage. I mean, I need to get into my garage to drag it out. If my garage is leveled, I'm shit out of luck. Same goes for my home and my car. If those are gone, too... so are my kits in them.
But, I am not going to resort to killing another human being for a bag of stale potato chips. And if my kits are in tact, I will share what I have if someone, who has lost everything, comes along. He need not threaten my life with a gun for that stale bag of chips, because i will share it with him. If he decides to kill me... judgement falls upon him, not me.

stargirl69

Cosmo wrote:

WaveRyder wrote:

right. but the japanese have a disaster response training day every year and the country invests heavily in preparing its people for such disasters. we dont..... we should.

...
Agreed.
But, lack of preparadeness does not make us barbarians. The bottom line... we are STILL Americans, even after a disaster, aren't we? That should count for something, right? If it does not, what does that tell us about ourselves... about America?
I have a modest earthquake preparadness kit in my garage. I mean, I need to get into my garage to drag it out. If my garage is leveled, I'm shit out of luck. Same goes for my home and my car. If those are gone, too... so are my kits in them.
But, I am not going to resort to killing another human being for a bag of stale potato chips. And if my kits are in tact, I will share what I have if someone, who has lost everything, comes along. He need not threaten my life with a gun for that stale bag of chips, because i will share it with him. If he decides to kill me... judgement falls upon him, not me.

Beautifully said Cosmo

WaveRyder

Cosmo wrote:

WaveRyder wrote:

right. but the japanese have a disaster response training day every year and the country invests heavily in preparing its people for such disasters. we dont..... we should.

...
Agreed.
But, lack of preparadeness does not make us barbarians. The bottom line... we are STILL Americans, even after a disaster, aren't we? That should count for something, right? If it does not, what does that tell us about ourselves... about America?
I have a modest earthquake preparadness kit in my garage. I mean, I need to get into my garage to drag it out. If my garage is leveled, I'm shit out of luck. Same goes for my home and my car. If those are gone, too... so are my kits in them.
But, I am not going to resort to killing another human being for a bag of stale potato chips. And if my kits are in tact, I will share what I have if someone, who has lost everything, comes along. He need not threaten my life with a gun for that stale bag of chips, because i will share it with him. If he decides to kill me... judgement falls upon him, not me.

i agree with everything in your post except one thing. I wouldnt kill another human to sustain myself, UNLESS that person was trying to kill me to sustain himself. Im not going to just let me and my loved ones die ... that's not american. life should be preserved and valued. if someone tries to break the social contract by stealing and killing, the state of nature kicks in.

Jason P

A better strategy is to just get into backpacking.

Plus, you will actually know how to use your gear once the shit hits the fan ... and more importantly, you actually get to use your stuff instead of letting it collect dust while waiting for shit to arrive.

DS1119

I signed up for a course this morning that teaches me how to make a shelter out of a cow's carcas and weapons from a pen. I'm going to be so ready when the end comes.

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Carey wrote:

that freaked me out b/c I have two small kids.

it's amazing how much advertising is built around fear