Bug out bags

DS1119

brianlux wrote:

Who needs a Bug out Bag when you've got a Secret Decoder Ring?

Travelar

brianlux wrote:

Who needs a Bug out Bag when you've got a Secret Decoder Ring?

It's all that you will ever need.

SweetChildofMine

Who the heck in their right minds would want to concoct such a disaster in their head and then want to see if they survive through it? Then...


You would never make it up against a military complex and martial law. Ive seen the Department Interior run the empty woods along the Canadian border. Forget it.


The path of Glenn Beck fodder.

WaveRyder

it's all about preparation. and i find it hilarious reading these posts that say "couldnt you just hop in your car and drive somewhere?"


The other night the grid here in my town went down for like 15 hours. The big stores closed, so no one could get food, candles, flashlights, water, etc. Its a relatively small town but traffic got hectic during the shortage. The town was in a mini-panic. I realized that I wasn't prepared to go without power for very long.

and with the guns thing, if a scenario does play out, those who are prepared become targets, as someone already said.

Laugh about others being prepared, I don't mind, but you will if shit does ever hit the fan.

WaveRyder

DS1119 wrote:

Shit, I saw Indepoendance Day and even though every city was being attacked by aliens the roads were still open.

i guess we're thinking of two different Independence Day films......I thought you were referring to the Will Smith one until you said that the roads were still open. Wasn't his stripper wife caught in traffic and if it werent for her find that nook in the tunnel, she'd have never been able to strip again.

DS1119

WaveRyder wrote:

it's all about preparation. and i find it hilarious reading these posts that say "couldnt you just hop in your car and drive somewhere?"


The other night the grid here in my town went down for like 15 hours. The big stores closed, so no one could get food, candles, flashlights, water, etc. Its a relatively small town but traffic got hectic during the shortage. The town was in a mini-panic. I realized that I wasn't prepared to go without power for very long.

and with the guns thing, if a scenario does play out, those who are prepared become targets, as someone already said.

Laugh about others being prepared, I don't mind, but you will if shit does ever hit the fan.

Just wondering, and this is serious...what are you preparing for? If it's that serious an issue, and I'm being serious, those big stores that closed because the grid was shut down, someone is busting into those stores and taking the supplies they may hold.


Also, you mentioned traffic got hectic...if its that bad a situation leave and find another civilization until it's less hectic.
Obviously you could still drive.

DS1119

WaveRyder wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Shit, I saw Indepoendance Day and even though every city was being attacked by aliens the roads were still open.

i guess we're thinking of two different Independence Day films......I thought you were referring to the Will Smith one until you said that the roads were still open. Wasn't his stripper wife caught in traffic and if it werent for her find that nook in the tunnel, she'd have never been able to strip again.

And I guess when aliens attack Smalbany I'll be quicker to leave. Unless I could find someone with a backpack and a shotgun who could certainly protect me from alienas who flew millions of miles to take over the Earth and couldn't be defeated by nuke weapons...but glad you had that case of water and a shotgun. :?

WaveRyder

DS1119 wrote:

WaveRyder wrote:

it's all about preparation. and i find it hilarious reading these posts that say "couldnt you just hop in your car and drive somewhere?"


The other night the grid here in my town went down for like 15 hours. The big stores closed, so no one could get food, candles, flashlights, water, etc. Its a relatively small town but traffic got hectic during the shortage. The town was in a mini-panic. I realized that I wasn't prepared to go without power for very long.

and with the guns thing, if a scenario does play out, those who are prepared become targets, as someone already said.

Laugh about others being prepared, I don't mind, but you will if shit does ever hit the fan.

Just wondering, and this is serious...what are you preparing for? If it's that serious an issue, and I'm being serious, those big stores that closed because the grid was shut down, someone is busting into those stores and taking the supplies they may hold.


Also, you mentioned traffic got hectic...if its that bad a situation leave and find another civilization until it's less hectic.
Obviously you could still drive.

I live in a town of 5000 people.....hard to find a place less hectic. People freak out when they're forced to go without amenities.

as far as what im preparing for, nothing specific but anything could happen.
Nuclear war
massive earthquake
a complete shut down of the grid, which could be caused by massive solar flares or at the hands of a foriegn or domestic enemy
any terrorist attack on a wide scale

the scenarios are endless.

Someone mentioned that it wouldnt matter any way because the govt would enforce martial law or whatever, but what does that mean? Im assuming they meant that if shit does hit the fan, the feds will just round us up and confine us until everything is better. Uh uh, not letting that happen. I refuse to live in a govt cage. Id rather die in a gun fight than commit suicide or go willing to a prison camp. - call me nostalgic but when I say "liberty or death" i mean it.

WaveRyder

DS1119 wrote:

WaveRyder wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

Shit, I saw Indepoendance Day and even though every city was being attacked by aliens the roads were still open.

i guess we're thinking of two different Independence Day films......I thought you were referring to the Will Smith one until you said that the roads were still open. Wasn't his stripper wife caught in traffic and if it werent for her find that nook in the tunnel, she'd have never been able to strip again.

And I guess when aliens attack Smalbany I'll be quicker to leave. Unless I could find someone with a backpack and a shotgun who could certainly protect me from alienas who flew millions of miles to take over the Earth and couldn't be defeated by nuke weapons...but glad you had that case of water and a shotgun. :?

if you live in a big city, you're probably fucked no matter what you do. I live in the midwest so i think i might have more one on one confrontations with the aliens. :shock:

stargirl69

WaveRyder wrote:

it's all about preparation. and i find it hilarious reading these posts that say "couldnt you just hop in your car and drive somewhere?"


The other night the grid here in my town went down for like 15 hours. The big stores closed, so no one could get food, candles, flashlights, water, etc. Its a relatively small town but traffic got hectic during the shortage. The town was in a mini-panic. I realized that I wasn't prepared to go without power for very long.

and with the guns thing, if a scenario does play out, those who are prepared become targets, as someone already said.

Laugh about others being prepared, I don't mind, but you will if shit does ever hit the fan.

What are you preparing for man? This scenario is so far removed from my level of comprehension.

We once went 9 days without any power,contrary to what you think may happen in a situation like that I found that everyone in our community helped each other out man,rather than going straight to pillage and survival of the fittest.

A kill or be kill survive or be eaten mentality is not the usual route people take.Unless your this guy that owns the store.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxNuQDxnECU

brianlux

Since my first reply to this thread was a joke (but you have to admit, it was a good one ) I should at least be thoughtful enough to give a serious answer as well so here it is:

I always carry with me the following items:

A bottle of water
Swiss Army knife
Matches
Compass
Eye glass repair kit
A small basic first aid kit
A six foot tape measure
Pen
Wallet
A book
Elastic knee, wrist and back support (Hey, I'm 60 -I've got arthritis- you probably don't need these.)

They all fit into a small day pack.

But these are just for everyday kinds of situations. What else do you need? Any situation that those don't cover means the world's gone to hell- you can have it.

Of course in an emergency situation my natural instinct to survive would probably kick in but so would my learned impulse to be with friends and, because we're that kind of people, to help others. Too often the survivalist mentality is each one for themselves. Long term survival of a community of people working together and taking care of each other seems more reasonable and appealing to me. If that choice isn't available, I'd rather sit on a hill, watch the flames and hope for a relatively painless death.

stargirl69

brianlux wrote:

Since my first reply to this thread was a joke (but you have to admit, it was a good one ) I should at least be thoughtful enough to give a serious answer as well so here it is:

I always carry with me the following items:

A bottle of water
Swiss Army knife
Matches
Compass
Eye glass repair kit
A small basic first aid kit
A six foot tape measure
Pen
Wallet
A book
Elastic knee, wrist and back support (Hey, I'm 60 -I've got arthritis- you probably don't need these.)

They all fit into a small day pack.

But these are just for everyday kinds of situations. What else do you need? Any situation that those don't cover means the world's gone to hell- you can have it.

Of course in an emergency situation my natural instinct to survive would probably kick in but so would my learned impulse to be with friends and, because we're that kind of people, to help others. Too often the survivalist mentality is each one for themselves. Long term survival of a community of people working together and taking care of each other seems more reasonable and appealing to me. If that choice isn't available, I'd rather sit on a hill, watch the flames and hope for a relatively painless death.

Brianlux I applaud your sensibilities,brilliantly written statement, brilliant man,just brilliant!

I too would hope if I knew I was going to die,I'd plug my mp3 into my ears,sit down and wait until the end.I hope I never ever develop the mentality that I will kill another to gain a few more minutes in this life when we are all going anyway.

WaveRyder

brianlux wrote:

Since my first reply to this thread was a joke (but you have to admit, it was a good one ) I should at least be thoughtful enough to give a serious answer as well so here it is:

I always carry with me the following items:

A bottle of water
Swiss Army knife
Matches
Compass
Eye glass repair kit
A small basic first aid kit
A six foot tape measure
Pen
Wallet
A book
Elastic knee, wrist and back support (Hey, I'm 60 -I've got arthritis- you probably don't need these.)

They all fit into a small day pack.

But these are just for everyday kinds of situations. What else do you need? Any situation that those don't cover means the world's gone to hell- you can have it.

Of course in an emergency situation my natural instinct to survive would probably kick in but so would my learned impulse to be with friends and, because we're that kind of people, to help others. Too often the survivalist mentality is each one for themselves. Long term survival of a community of people working together and taking care of each other seems more reasonable and appealing to me. If that choice isn't available, I'd rather sit on a hill, watch the flames and hope for a relatively painless death.

agreed. hopefully that is a choice.... but i value life and will do everything in my power to sustain mine, even if the world is in tatters.

eMMI

stargirl69 wrote:

We once went 9 days without any power,contrary to what you think may happen in a situation like that I found that everyone in our community helped each other out man,rather than going straight to pillage and survival of the fittest.

Similarly here, there was a storm and lots of people lost all power for several days. (Take note that this was firmly in the middle of winter.) People worked with what they had, helping each other, they didn't jump at their neighbour's necks and panic at the first sign of trouble.


I don't know.. This thread kind of creeps me out. Although I will be the first one to admit that having some form of emergency supplies is not a bad idea. (Stuff like a first aid kit and maybe some food in tins.)

stargirl69

eMMI wrote:

stargirl69 wrote:

We once went 9 days without any power,contrary to what you think may happen in a situation like that I found that everyone in our community helped each other out man,rather than going straight to pillage and survival of the fittest.

Similarly here, there was a storm and lots of people lost all power for several days. (Take note that this was firmly in the middle of winter.) People worked with what they had, helping each other, they didn't jump at their neighbour's necks and panic at the first sign of trouble.


I don't know.. This thread kind of creeps me out. Although I will be the first one to admit that having some form of emergency supplies is not a bad idea. (Stuff like a first aid kit and maybe some food in tins.)

Absolutely,I agree,as I said we had a box with food,blankets and water but there was never any need for weapons

WaveRyder

stargirl69 wrote:

eMMI wrote:

stargirl69 wrote:

We once went 9 days without any power,contrary to what you think may happen in a situation like that I found that everyone in our community helped each other out man,rather than going straight to pillage and survival of the fittest.

Similarly here, there was a storm and lots of people lost all power for several days. (Take note that this was firmly in the middle of winter.) People worked with what they had, helping each other, they didn't jump at their neighbour's necks and panic at the first sign of trouble.


I don't know.. This thread kind of creeps me out. Although I will be the first one to admit that having some form of emergency supplies is not a bad idea. (Stuff like a first aid kit and maybe some food in tins.)

Absolutely,I agree,as I said we had a box with food,blankets and water but there was never any need for weapons

fire arms are a last resort but i would encourage everyone mentally fit to own a weapon regardless. You're never given a heads up about when you WILL need one, and besides, if criminals have guns I want law abiding citizens to have them too.

stargirl69

WaveRyder wrote:

fire arms are a last resort but i would encourage everyone mentally fit to own a weapon regardless. You're never given a heads up about when you WILL need one, and besides, if criminals have guns I want law abiding citizens to have them too.

Makes me proud not to be paranoid or American

eMMI

WaveRyder wrote:

fire arms are a last resort but i would encourage everyone mentally fit to own a weapon regardless. You're never given a heads up about when you WILL need one, and besides, if criminals have guns I want law abiding citizens to have them too.

:? Well that's a whole new box of fish.

WaveRyder

stargirl69 wrote:

WaveRyder wrote:

fire arms are a last resort but i would encourage everyone mentally fit to own a weapon regardless. You're never given a heads up about when you WILL need one, and besides, if criminals have guns I want law abiding citizens to have them too.

Makes me proud not to be paranoid or American

that's rude and condescending. Best of luck.

eMMI

stargirl69 wrote:

eMMI wrote:

stargirl69 wrote:

We once went 9 days without any power,contrary to what you think may happen in a situation like that I found that everyone in our community helped each other out man,rather than going straight to pillage and survival of the fittest.

Similarly here, there was a storm and lots of people lost all power for several days. (Take note that this was firmly in the middle of winter.) People worked with what they had, helping each other, they didn't jump at their neighbour's necks and panic at the first sign of trouble.


I don't know.. This thread kind of creeps me out. Although I will be the first one to admit that having some form of emergency supplies is not a bad idea. (Stuff like a first aid kit and maybe some food in tins.)

Absolutely,I agree,as I said we had a box with food,blankets and water but there was never any need for weapons

:thumbup: Having said that, I'm not exactly specially prepared for.. Anything really. :P I should really take a look at the innards of my cupboards, at least make sure my flashlight works.