Does Mitt Romney really have a shot at it ?
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as someone on here said "stranger things have happened"
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as someone on here said "stranger things have happened"
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It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
more like electoral system + weak democracy = anyone has a shot ...
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Status Quo...If you like how things have been run for 100 years than he will probably be your guy...
How I feel about it can be summed up this way...President Barmitt Obamney. They really won't do things all that differently besides a regulation here and a few tax percent there...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
he is the establishment's candidate ... he has raised the most money ... he has been the front runner from the get go ... it really shouldn't be a surprise he will get the GOP nomination ...
if Cobra Commander does not unite the entire world under ONE RULE by the end of 2012,
I would say Mitt has a snowballs chance in hell.
I feel like Newt was sent in as "the Destroyer" to turn this already laughable Republican Side Show Circus in to a flaming clown car of doom for the GOP. In other words he was tasked with taking pot shots at Romney's credibility to partially debilitate him in the run up to the general election.
I think the elite is luke-warm on Romney for one reason or another (to be blunt, i think Popular Opinion rules the day, and they know that if he isn't "likable" in the run up to the presidency, he won't make a good smoke screen for any of their plans, because if they don't like you at the start, they start to hate you sooner) ... look at just how much Entirely-Opposite-Of-His-Campaign-Rhetoric stuff "Obama" (those behind him) got pushed through simply because everyone was fucking spell bound by [bigoted inflammatory name removed by Admin] (i won't apologize for this comment ... I am not racist ... I'm making a non-PC political point ... which is that the color of the man's skin undeniably played a LARGE part in both his election AND in popular public opinion of him ... that, and his rather nondescript "Change" anthem helped bedazzle people into pulling his lever at the polls) ...
taking a step back to look at Obama's real legacy, it becomes clear that, minus all the "fear-mongering", points made in the film, The Obama Deception (thanks, Alex Jones) are largely valid, and Obama is nothing more than an extremely gifted Public Relations Mouthpiece (his mouth woos them peoples) for THE Establishment.
He may not be the most beloved president in history, but I'm pretty sure "they" want him back in for another term ...
that is ... if they even intend to let the country get that far down the road (ie. I'm starting to question whether 2012 will in many ways be some sort of New Age \ New Era \ utterly paradigm shattering year where The Man lets all the old order ways fall to pot, and rise like a Phoenix in to a new system ... sounds crazy, but at this point - given ALL the global instability on the back burners - i'm not ruling this out yet ... again, to be Non-PC blunt ... I have always had this fishy feeling that "a black man as president sure makes a great capstone to the entire USA experiment" ... but i know that is kooky-town stuff.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Romney says he doesn't care about poor people and is a Mormon, so right there you lose the election. And Romney 100% will be the GOP candidate. I will bet anyone $10,000 that is the case.
Four more years of Obama.
I'd agree with this. He has a shot. But if he does get in, nothing of any significance will change. Except maybe the rest of the worlds perception of the voting public in America.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
How much are you willing to be that Obama will beat Romney?
$1,000.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/0 ... 46557.html
"Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said on Wednesday that he's "not concerned about the very poor," citing the social safety net in place for that segment of the populace and adding that he's focused on the middle class..."
He has off shore bank accounts - although I don't have a problem with it, a lot of people do.
Obama will crush him in a debate, as he would with anyone. (that's not me supporting Obama)
The economy is turning around.
...I just don't see any way that Obama loses. Again, that's not an endorsement for the pitiful tyrant, just my perception of the public opinion.
In fact, state polls are saying Obama will lose:
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gallup-state-numbers-predict-huge-obama-loss/352881
Personally, I think it's too early to know who will win. I'd bet against Obama, just because I think the economy will turn south this year. But, I think we'll be pretty sure by end of summer though. Because by end of summer, we'll have a good idea of where things will most likely be by November.
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why do you think the economy will turn south this year? The trend is upward. What specific event will change the trend?
or optimism depending on which way you look at it and who you want to win....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Well, most likely you wouldn't trust my own thoughts. But, I look at indicators like consumer confidence, and see warning signs. On top of that, my issue is really debt - here and abroad. I see the EU's economy diving this year, and we'll soon follow. We can't keep propping up the economy with props that are borrowed forever.
But, if you don't like my intuition, as I showed in another thread, the CBO came out this week and said they also expect unemployment to increase this year and next year, ending 2013 at around 9.3%. They expect GDP growth of 2% this year, which is terrible, and worse growth in 2013 - around 1%. That's the CBO's take, not mine.
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I don't want either of them (Romney or Obama) to win. You do, however. So, your post is ironic.
P.S. CBO is far from partisan, I would say. Since they agree with me.... Are they pessimistic? Or are they realists?
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Basically, what he was trying to say was that the middle class gets ignored while everyone else focuses on the very poor or very rich. The rich don't need help and the poor receive help--but if that system of helping the poor needs to be improved, he'll improve it. That's a far cry from saying he doesn't care about them.
interesting, because everything I've read predicts steady and modest growth in 2012 and 2013. "official" unemployment numbers will likely fall but only by a few tenths of a percent before the election. the housing market has hit bottom and is rebounding in most areas that aren't CA, AZ, FL and NV. Consumer spending is at an all time high, which is absurd to me but that's the case.
Certainly, the Europe debt crisis is something to consider. I don't think anyone can predict what's going to happen.
Iran isn't going to influence anything until 2013. Obama isn't stupid enough to fan those flames before the election, but after the election I'm sure we'll start launching bombs.
fair enough. I was just going by what the news ticker reads. and it reads "Romney says he doesn't care about the very poor."
my post is not ironic. people who want obama out are optimistic it will fail. and to me their outlook for the economy is pessimistic. it depends exactly on how you look at it.
like other posters i see job report numbers going up the last several months. i saw that people spent record amounts of money in december, numbers not seen in a decade.
so now the cbo has credibility? i remember when the cbo was crunching the numbers on the obama insurance reform law and people all over this board said it was not credible because they did not like the outcome of what the cbo said. the cbo estimates get politicized all the time...all i know is we will see what we will see. and for people to hope the bottom falls out is the same as wanting your country to fail.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what happened to <paraphrasing> "obama has no shot at re-election and anyone who thinks so is a fool"? ...
Well, I think we can say this: consumer spending was flat (or fell very slightly) in December. People expected a big month, they didn't get it. Housing may be at it's bottom, but it's not growing. Consumer confidence plummeted recently. Unemployment is projected to worsen. Then there's the issues abroad and issues with our own debt. One sign I don't get is the stock market is moving up, despite some bad econ news. Why? I'm clueless. Personally, I think the jobs numbers will be interesting on Friday because the birth/death model will be factored in (I think).
I really, really want the economy to improve and want the market to jump up, I just honestly don't see the picture as rosey as you do. That's all. I see it as a scary picture. In fact, to me it's so scary, I'm reluctant to sell my house (we're outgrowing) and move into a bigger one right now. Seriously. I am worried that I'd be tying my hands financially.
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1. People hate Obama.
2. The economy isn't recovering quickly enough from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depressions. This can be attributed to many, many factors, but in the end Obama is president. The idiocy of the instant gratification generation/culture is clear as day.
3. The propaganda campaign that has been waged since the fall of 2008.
"This is the Obama Recession"--Rush Limbaugh.
Add tot hat: socialist, Marxist, radical Kenyan muslim, birther bull shit--WOULD there be a birther issue if Obama was white? (or more accurately, 100% white?), and son on, and so on.