1 vs 7: How many AET people own a gun?

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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Ban guns in the U.S.A? so just the criminals have them? Look, i didn't invent or mass produce guns.. but it happened.. and they are here to stay.. whether a peaceful, law abiding person like myself likes it or not..
    Here in the states, criminals will always have guns.. cheaply and very accessible. It is a problem that is next to impossible to overcome. period. So some of us peaceful, law abiding folks take a great comfort in the fact that some shady motherfucker is going to think twice before he fucks with us.. there is a good chance we have a gun in our home and even a chance we have one on our person when we go out.. It is a wonderful deterrent of crime.

    And there are very strict laws about carrying a gun in public.. and the bulk of folks follow these rules..

    Where I come from, this is a horrible reality.. and don't trip out, americans as a whole are maybe the nicest, most out-going, most loving group of folks you have ever met.. but there is crime.. and we do have rights to protect ourselves.. and most will.. and god bless us if we need to...
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    With all the school shootings in the USA I think guns need to be banned.
    Not to mention, our government and way of life is based on our constitution.. Our first amendment right grants us freedom of speech (which is huge) .. our second grants us the right to bare arms.. If they take our second, what stops them from taking our first?? I like my constitution just the way it is..
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  • ZiggyStar
    ZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    Thank FUCK I live in Australia. So so so so soooooooo glad my children will grow up either here or NZ.

    Thanks for explaining your thoughts, Caveeze....I guess I can see that point of view. I don't know if it's necessarily a "wonderful" right to have a gun....but I can kinda see why you think a gun is necessary.

    Now I want to know how many on this forum own a gun. :think:
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  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Thank FUCK I live in Australia. So so so so soooooooo glad my children will grow up either here or NZ.

    Thanks for explaining your thoughts, Caveeze....I guess I can see that point of view. I don't know if it's necessarily a "wonderful" right to have a gun....but I can kinda see why you think a gun is necessary.

    Now I want to know how many on this forum own a gun. :think:
    I couldn't/wouldn't watch that whole video! That is sick for sure. :(
    Hi Ziggy! We own actually own tons of guns. Mostly collector items, but still. Some are for hunting, which are used once a year. I think there is a whole misunderstanding of gun use/ownership in the US vs countries that don't allow them. Lots here have them for various reasons, some are for hunting, some for protection, some for collecting, but the majority are law abiding citizens that follow all laws and are conscientious about the ownership of them. I think the news gets swayed toward cities with gangs etc., and that doesn't take in to account the whole country, which is huge and still remote in lots of regions. Guns are not bad, they are a tool and like any other tool can be abused. They do serve a good purpose here and will never be outlawed that I can see, at least in the near future. :)
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Thank FUCK I live in Australia. So so so so soooooooo glad my children will grow up either here or NZ.

    Thanks for explaining your thoughts, Caveeze....I guess I can see that point of view. I don't know if it's necessarily a "wonderful" right to have a gun....but I can kinda see why you think a gun is necessary.

    Now I want to know how many on this forum own a gun. :think:
    I own 7.. and it would break my soul if I ever had to use one against a fellow human.. I would just be destroyed, for life.. even if it was in self defense or in defense of my family.. I don't care where you live, or what laws you have, taking a human life would be next to personal death...the worst...
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  • ZiggyStar
    ZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    wolfbear wrote:
    I couldn't/wouldn't watch that whole video! That is sick for sure. :(
    Hi Ziggy! We own actually own tons of guns. Mostly collector items, but still. Some are for hunting, which are used once a year. I think there is a whole misunderstanding of gun use/ownership in the US vs countries that don't allow them. Lots here have them for various reasons, some are for hunting, some for protection, some for collecting, but the majority are law abiding citizens that follow all laws and are conscientious about the ownership of them. I think the news gets swayed toward cities with gangs etc., and that doesn't take in to account the whole country, which is huge and still remote in lots of regions. Guns are not bad, they are a tool and like any other tool can be abused. They do serve a good purpose here and will never be outlawed that I can see, at least in the near future. :)

    Hi Wolfbear! :wave:

    Collecting I can understand. Hunting or farming I definitely understand.

    I know guns aren't bad....but the people that use them "can" be bad. That's what bothers me.
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  • ZiggyStar
    ZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    Caveeze wrote:
    I own 7.. and it would break my soul if I ever had to use one against a fellow human.. I would just be destroyed, for life.. even if it was in self defense or in defense of my family.. I don't care where you live, or what laws you have, taking a human life would be next to personal death...the worst...

    You own SEVEN....for protection? :? Or do you hunt/farm/collect?

    Do you drive around with them? Walk around with them on your person? If your answer is yes to either of those questions, do you really feel THAT threatened where you live that someone is going to attack you so badly that you may have to defend your life with a gun?

    This is interesting.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Thank FUCK I live in Australia. So so so so soooooooo glad my children will grow up either here or NZ.

    What?! You ditching Australia?
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Got a gun, fact I got two....
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  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Now I want to know how many on this forum own a gun. :think:

    I'll never own a gun. I live in a sketchy neighborhood and I seriously thought about it for awhile. But I've changed...
    Mostly since i see reports of a child being accidentally shot ALL THE TIME in the news. Also, my roomate had a shotgun in the house once, so I thought it would be a good idea if I knew how to use it. He thought the rounds were removed and it went off, narrowly missing my head. I couldnt hear out of my left ear for awhile, and it blew the ceiling to pieces right above me. Once i heard the power and saw how close I was to disappearing off the earth for good, I decided I'd steer clear of guns. (oh, and also, my ex-roommate is a police officer now! :lol: )
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    I own 7.. and it would break my soul if I ever had to use one against a fellow human.. I would just be destroyed, for life.. even if it was in self defense or in defense of my family.. I don't care where you live, or what laws you have, taking a human life would be next to personal death...the worst...

    You own SEVEN....for protection? :? Or do you hunt/farm/collect?

    Do you drive around with them? Walk around with them on your person? If your answer is yes to either of those questions, do you really feel THAT threatened where you live that someone is going to attack you so badly that you may have to defend your life with a gun?

    This is interesting.
    Yes 7.. I am a hunter.. I had a shotgun and 2 rifles. then when my dad passed I inherited all of his guns. I keep all of my guns at my mothers house in the wilderness (where I go hunting). I live in a city but I choose not to keep any of my guns here for protection. I feel if someone broke in I could defend myself with a bat or a golf club.. But the main reason i do not keep any of my guns here is because if someone were to break in and rob my home, there would just be one more gun on the street and in the hands of a criminal..

    This is a choice I have made but I am in full support of people who do keep a gun at home for protection and for people who meet the legal requirements to carry a firearm on there person.. I think in this country it does more good than harm.. With great freedom comes great responsibility.. And I believe the vast majority of gun owners are very responsible, respectful of the weapon, and safe..
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  • unlost dogs
    unlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    If I owned a gun, I would have way, way more interesting threads to start.

    That is, if they allow you a laptop and internet access in prison.
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    If I owned a gun, I would have way, way more interesting threads to start.

    That is, if they allow you a laptop and internet access in prison.
    you are not helping my argument girly :lol:
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  • ZiggyStar
    ZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    I can understand the hunting side of things.

    I find it strange that people in the US feel that their lives are soooo threatened that they need to protect themselves with guns. Is it paranoia?

    What percentage would own a gun for protection? Heaps? Not many?

    Johnny's story above about the gun going off near his head is scary....I don't like that people who obviously have no idea have access to guns so easily.
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I find it strange that people abroad are comfortable with the fact that that are not allowed to own a gun if that is what they desire...
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • I have rifles and shotguns that are only used for hunting, but my brother wants a pistol for protection. I'm not a big fan of the idea as he lives in the city. I do like that he is allowed to make the choice.
  • conman
    conman Posts: 7,493
    i don't personally own any guns but both my roommates do and i know exactly where to find them if i ever did need them..

    that being said, i probably won't ever own a gun... it's just the way i was raised and i have enough military training to defend myself if i ever feel threatened..


    on a side note: all 3 people in my house are well trained with firearms and know how to use them safely(for what it's worth)
  • ZiggyStar
    ZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    Caveeze wrote:
    I find it strange that people abroad are comfortable with the fact that that are not allowed to own a gun if that is what they desire...

    We have no need for guns. Why would we want them? That's the beauty of it. It doesn't bother any of us because there is absolutely NO NEED for us to have a gun....so we are comfortable with it.

    We can't rape....we can't torture animals....we can't hold up banks....there are a lot of things that many people desire that they can't do. These laws are there to protect people. Our gun laws protect us.
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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    ZiggyStar wrote:
    Caveeze wrote:
    I find it strange that people abroad are comfortable with the fact that that are not allowed to own a gun if that is what they desire...

    We have no need for guns. Why would we want them? That's the beauty of it. It doesn't bother any of us because there is absolutely NO NEED for us to have a gun....so we are comfortable with it.

    We can't rape....we can't torture animals....we can't hold up banks....there are a lot of things that many people desire that they can't do. These laws are there to protect people. Our gun laws protect us.

    our gun laws protect us as well.. the difference being we are allowed to have them.. us law abiding citizens that is.. not just criminals.. I love the fact that we are free to make our own choice on this matter.
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