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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,744
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,030
    Wobbie said:
    Why is that even a news article? I doubt anybody else even cares.

    That's pretty much how I felt after wasting 5 min of my day reading it.
    You’re a slow reader :l:lol:

    as a former firefighter, that guy always annoyed me. FDNY is a backwards and inbred FD, yet they are celebrated.
    Article didn't say and I don't really care to look it up, but is he an actual firefighter or is this just some shtick that he came up with?
    probably a retired PIO. :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,478
    Sometimes I'm highly surprised at what blew up a thread.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,030
    Wobbie said:
    Why is that even a news article? I doubt anybody else even cares.

    That's pretty much how I felt after wasting 5 min of my day reading it.
    You’re a slow reader :l:lol:

    as a former firefighter, that guy always annoyed me. FDNY is a backwards and inbred FD, yet they are celebrated.
    Article didn't say and I don't really care to look it up, but is he an actual firefighter or is this just some shtick that he came up with?
    Actual firefighter. Retired on “disability” due to an “injury.” Are you picking up on my sarcasm? Kind of a go to for FDNY.

    p.s. I’m sure there are fine men and women on the FDNY but the culture has long been fucked up.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Columbus 10
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,030
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Columbus 10
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,030
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Clearly The Visor is going to be the 2nd coach this season fired after an embarrassment in London. Only question is do they do it today and make him book his own passage home while they stay in the UK, or do they let him lose to the woeful Patriots next Sunday before dropping the hammer.
    kirby smart might be the only coach worth a fuck who has worn a visor.
    visor on visor crime tonight. you’re indoors….there’s no sun….why not wear a bandana? :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,506
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
  • markymark550markymark550 Posts: 5,148
    Wobbie said:
    Wobbie said:
    Why is that even a news article? I doubt anybody else even cares.

    That's pretty much how I felt after wasting 5 min of my day reading it.
    You’re a slow reader :l:lol:

    as a former firefighter, that guy always annoyed me. FDNY is a backwards and inbred FD, yet they are celebrated.
    Article didn't say and I don't really care to look it up, but is he an actual firefighter or is this just some shtick that he came up with?
    Actual firefighter. Retired on “disability” due to an “injury.” Are you picking up on my sarcasm? Kind of a go to for FDNY.

    p.s. I’m sure there are fine men and women on the FDNY but the culture has long been fucked up.
    Gotcha. Thanks
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,228
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,478
    My sister's in Colorado. If they go to a Broncos game they use light rail or park & ride. Do they have that in Cleveland?

    Also sounds like they want a dome. Guess all football will be indoors eventually. BOO
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,701
    edited October 18
    My sister's in Colorado. If they go to a Broncos game they use light rail or park & ride. Do they have that in Cleveland?

    Also sounds like they want a dome. Guess all football will be indoors eventually. BOO
    Buffalo's new stadium going up is open-air.

    It is semi-enclosed with a canopy that covers like 70% of the seats, and much of the problematic wind will be blocked being 360-degree enclosed.  Still essentially outside though.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfTxOKmCL38
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,506
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,228
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,744
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,228
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,744
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,478
    That is remarkable confidence in an extremely mediocre team, but I guess when you have 25 years of barely interrupted duck boat parades you can be that way.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,744
    Have you watched Jacksonville this season?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,228
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
    So was Miami two weeks ago. 

    Maye showed some promise last week, but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,506
    Poncier said:
    Have you watched Jacksonville this season?
    It's sort of inexplicable what happened to them.  
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,030
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Have you watched Jacksonville this season?
    It's sort of inexplicable what happened to them.  
    visor curse.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,195
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  

    gotta recoup that watson money somehow, seeing how stellar THAT turned out.
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,497
    Purdy
    WHAT THE FUCK???

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • TD51045TD51045 Posts: 9
    https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/10/brook-park-browns-5-hurdles-that-stand-between-clevelands-home-team-and-an-exit-to-the-suburbs-analysis.html

    The Haslam’s are really good at being buffoons. Hence, they also back J.D. Vance.

    They are Bu$hleaguer-esque. 

    Also, light rail connects the flats to the stadium. 

    Most fans that attend games come from outside the county and don’t pay the sin-tax that goes to the stadium and subsidizes the Haslam’s money printing machine.

    Let ‘em go.
    Dennis Rodman stole my seat N1 @ PJ20. 
    U.S. Summer shows for the teachers, please.
    I’m tired of driving to Chicago. Play Detroit, Cleveland, Columbus, Pittsburgh, or Buffalo.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,506
    TD51045 said:
    https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/10/brook-park-browns-5-hurdles-that-stand-between-clevelands-home-team-and-an-exit-to-the-suburbs-analysis.html

    The Haslam’s are really good at being buffoons. Hence, they also back J.D. Vance.

    They are Bu$hleaguer-esque. 

    Also, light rail connects the flats to the stadium. 

    Most fans that attend games come from outside the county and don’t pay the sin-tax that goes to the stadium and subsidizes the Haslam’s money printing machine.

    Let ‘em go.
    You think most people attending Browns games are from outside Cuyahoga?  No way.  Where do you think they are from, exactly?  Geauga?
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,744
    edited October 21
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
     but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
    Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head calling run after run on first down. Let the kid throw the ball, especially in some non passing downs so the D can't tee off.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,030
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
     but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
    Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head 
    toaster head sucks.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,744
    Is Wroggers going to look to trade Wilson as this week's solution?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,228
    edited October 21
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.
    Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 
    I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 
    The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  
    Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

    I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 
    The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.
    I won't be holding my breath.
    Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.
     but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 
    Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head calling run after run on first down. Let the kid throw the ball, especially in some non passing downs so the D can't tee off.
    I don't think AVP is even 1/4 of the problem... the fish rots from the head down, and Kraft f'ed up huge by bringing in a guy w/ zero head coaching experience. He was puffing out his chest as recently as a couple weeks ago over the Mayo hiring, and the guy looks like a deer in the headlights. 

    It doesn't help that so many defensive players are injured, but still in all... Mayo is in way over his head and I'll be surprised if he hasn't already lost the team with the way he's calling some of them out to the media. 
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,460
    Poncier said:
    Is Wroggers going to look to trade Wilson as this week's solution?
    it's really enjoyable watching him struggle and lose games.  
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