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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'd be more impressed if Brady played for an awful team and had a winning record 
    You mean like Acheman, Rapelsburger, Teabagger Peyton, or Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Staubach and Grogan?
    Aikman wasn't as good. Peyton could
    Could what? Win a Superb Owl with a shit team?

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    Wow. How about that “Who Got My Back” ad? Has the nascar crowd dropped out of attendance yet? Where’s the kneel?
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'd be more impressed if Brady played for an awful team and had a winning record 
    You mean like Acheman, Rapelsburger, Teabagger Peyton, or Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Staubach and Grogan?
    Aikman wasn't as good. Peyton could
    Could what? Win a Superb Owl with a shit team?

    NVMD.
    Have a wining record without a ton of weapons. 
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    How old is TB12 again? Trade em to Detroit.
    That would change my mind 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    I'd be more impressed if Brady played for an awful team and had a winning record 
    You mean like Acheman, Rapelsburger, Teabagger Peyton, or Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Staubach and Grogan?
    Aikman wasn't as good. Peyton could
    Could what? Win a Superb Owl with a shit team?

    NVMD.
    Have a wining record without a ton of weapons. 
    When, exactly, throughout his career, did he “have a ‘ton’ of weapons?” Which season’s roster?
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    Just saying he's never been on awful teams
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    igotid88 said:
    Just saying he's never been on awful teams
    Define an awful team. Is it players or organization? Both? Some more than others? Name an awful team in the  NFL since Brady entered the league. Parity. I thought there was parity. Is this not true?

    In the MLB, the Orioles are an awful team being 40+ games out of first. But even when they were 15 games out, one pitcher or batter not only took them to the playoffs but won the WS, hypothetically. That’d be what you posit, substituting MLB for NFL.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    Basically a team everyone has not having a winning record at the start of the season. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    Seems TB is a shitty team. At the start of the season.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
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    Attaway77Attaway77 Posts: 2,881
    That was a great first game of the season... Football is back and that makes me fucking happy. 
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,581
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.
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    JV130312JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,409
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.

    Brady's New England teams were not stacked with talent the way this Tampa team is.  You could actually argue that the Patriots were never really stacked with "talent".
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,726
    Great game last night. So nice to have football back....with the fans. It was so weird watching last year when they'd be playing in empty or half-empty stadiums. Some thoughts on last night's game...

    -Brady's ridiculous. I don't even know what to say anymore. He looks better now than he did in his last two seasons with New England. 

    -Nice to see Dak look good following the injury.

    -In my fantasy draft, I agonized over drafting Jerry Jeudy or Antonio Brown in like the 5th or 6th round....and went with Jeudy like an idiot. Brown is going to be Tampa's number one guy. He's just better than Evans and Godwin. Frankly, he's better than nearly every WR ever. That's why despite his off-the-field bullshit, Brady's all-in on him. 

    -Thankfully though, my fantasy opponent this week, who has Brown on his team, and named his team "Antonio Clown's Rap Sheet," didn't start him. 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,985
    igotid88 said:
    Just saying he's never been on awful teams
    I can't recall one awful team winning the super bowl except maybe the first one the Giants won w Eli.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    I cant figure out how that Ravens/49ers Superbowl happened
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,192
    108 passes and only 32 runs last night. The Juggler's head must be exploding today. It's not your daddies NFL anymore.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,258
    JV130312 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.

    Brady's New England teams were not stacked with talent the way this Tampa team is.  You could actually argue that the Patriots were never really stacked with "talent".
    Yeah, I've tried telling this to igotid for years. The only year you can really argue he had "stacked" offensive talent was the year they proceeded to go undefeated. 


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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    The Juggler said:
    JV130312 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.

    Brady's New England teams were not stacked with talent the way this Tampa team is.  You could actually argue that the Patriots were never really stacked with "talent".
    Yeah, I've tried telling this to igotid for years. The only year you can really argue he had "stacked" offensive talent was the year they proceeded to go undefeated. 


    Anyone who thinks NE's offense was stacked from '01-'04 didn't watch football from '01-'04. 
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    Merkin Baller said:
    The Juggler said:
    JV130312 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.

    Brady's New England teams were not stacked with talent the way this Tampa team is.  You could actually argue that the Patriots were never really stacked with "talent".
    Yeah, I've tried telling this to igotid for years. The only year you can really argue he had "stacked" offensive talent was the year they proceeded to go undefeated. 


    Anyone who thinks NE's offense was stacked from '01-'04 didn't watch football from '01-'04. 
    Right.

    Then they'll shift the argument to him being a "system quarterback" despite NE altering their "system"  to mesh with the different types of players they had in any given year. 
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    The Juggler said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    The Juggler said:
    JV130312 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.

    Brady's New England teams were not stacked with talent the way this Tampa team is.  You could actually argue that the Patriots were never really stacked with "talent".
    Yeah, I've tried telling this to igotid for years. The only year you can really argue he had "stacked" offensive talent was the year they proceeded to go undefeated. 


    Anyone who thinks NE's offense was stacked from '01-'04 didn't watch football from '01-'04. 
    Right.

    Then they'll shift the argument to him being a "system quarterback" despite NE altering their "system"  to mesh with the different types of players they had in any given year. 
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    LETS GO BROWNS!  End the misery and the factory of sadness.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,700
    mrussel1 said:
    LETS GO BROWNS!  End the misery and the factory of sadness.

    I hear manufacturing is coming back strong in NE Oho.....
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LETS GO BROWNS!  End the misery and the factory of sadness.

    I hear manufacturing is coming back strong in NE Oho.....
    It’s in all the political ads so yeah.

    are you Clowns or Bungles?
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,700
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    LETS GO BROWNS!  End the misery and the factory of sadness.

    I hear manufacturing is coming back strong in NE Oho.....
    It’s in all the political ads so yeah.

    are you Clowns or Bungles?

    Steelers.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,317
    The Juggler said:
    JV130312 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    igotid88 said:
    They were but they had the pieces. And he's better than Jameis. Then they added more later.
    Average margin of victory? He’s over 40. 40+ year olds are hard and 20 somethings are soft, or TB is MJ of the NFL. He makes everyone better regardless of who he’s been teamed with, and despite it all, has never had a “complete” team. More like bits and pieces and his talent, along with coaching, carries the day. But tonight, was all TB. Team or not.
    Yes it was all Tampa Bay 
    Sure. Well oiled machine. Stacked. With talent. Just like every team TB12 has played for throughout his career. If he’d been traded to Detroit, they’d win a Superb Owl.

    Brady's New England teams were not stacked with talent the way this Tampa team is.  You could actually argue that the Patriots were never really stacked with "talent".
    Yeah, I've tried telling this to igotid for years. The only year you can really argue he had "stacked" offensive talent was the year they proceeded to go undefeated. 


    I didn't say he had stacked talent every year. Was talking about last season. He's also had a great coach. I'm not saying he isn't good. Just that he's never been on terrible teams 
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