Can the replacement refs critique Lang's blocking for his QB? Why didn't the Packers DB just knock the ball out of bounds. What exactly is the NFL ruleon possession of the ball in the air? I thought there wasn't possession until the ball is down. It's not after the DB pulls the ball away, it's at the exact moment the ball is down. Anyone know if this is correct?
Alright, alright, alright!
Tom O. "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...
what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...
I understand where the guy is coming from...
I understand he is pissed off beyond belief....
I understand he is livid....
But the guy should just shut his mouth....Right?
He is now looking at a BIG FINE and possible suspension....Wouldnt you think?
And I am not saying I disagree with the guy....
But he should just keep his mouth shut......
Or not...
I highly doubt they will suspend a guy for criticizing officials. This whole thing has gotten so out of hand that players just don't care anymore. It's a complete fucking joke. Roger Goodell is officially the worst commissioner in all of sports.
Adam Schefter is doing an interview and says he received a text from an NFl Executive that he says stated that "The NFL needs to go to the NHL rule where all the goals are reviewed at league headquarters. It needs to be the same with all scoring plays".
Not a bad idea.
They could probably even get the NHL to do make the calls right...since they won't be busy for a while
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I understand where the guy is coming from...
I understand he is pissed off beyond belief....
I understand he is livid....
But the guy should just shut his mouth....Right?
He is now looking at a BIG FINE and possible suspension....Wouldnt you think?
And I am not saying I disagree with the guy....
But he should just keep his mouth shut......
Or not...
I highly doubt they will suspend a guy for criticizing officials. This whole thing has gotten so out of hand that players just don't care anymore. It's a complete fucking joke. Roger Goodell is officially the worst commissioner in all of sports.
I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.
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The worst part of the call for the pack is, in todays NFL is you can't afford to have games given away, I guess fortunately for them the Lions gave away Sundays game (but Lions was by there own stupidity), the pack had this one stolen.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.
The NFL is going to have some motivation to resolve this now that a huge fuck-up like last night cost the Packers a game.
That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...
what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...
You can't review possesion so if they called a td on the field it stands.
Alright, alright, alright!
Tom O. "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
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I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.
The NFL is going to have some motivation to resolve this now that a huge fuck-up like last night cost the Packers a game.
I would hope so too but with Goodell you never know. I'd be shocked if the real refs weren't back by week 5.
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That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...
what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...
You can't review possesion so if they called a td on the field it stands.
Thats what I understood from the announcers...what I didn't understand is what were they reviewing? Were they just making sure the ball didn't hit the ground?
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"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
score one for those socialist refs demanding that they get paid what they are worth? what a bunch of lazy, greedy, SOBs...they should take their shit pay for a shit job and be happy with it like those teachers in Chicago.
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ESPN is reporting that $200M - $250M in bets shifted based on the hail mary call. The spread was 3.5 favoring the Packers.
That's completely irrelevant. Bad calls happen all the time to determine point spread shifts.
Point fixing???
Temp job. Low pay. Chance to make some real money before going back to officiating D3 and Arena League games?
:think:
Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.
Alright, alright, alright!
Tom O. "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
score one for those socialist refs demanding that they get paid what they are worth? what a bunch of lazy, greedy, SOBs...they should take their shit pay for a shit job and be happy with it like those teachers in Chicago.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.
Well those part-time employees are obviously a pretty vital part of this league.
That was an awful call, even worse that it cost the Packers the game, but I don't think it's quite as bad as it's being made out to be. If possession isn't established til the db comes down, especially. He did have it tucked to his chest, but I think people are underestimating how much Tate had ahold of it. Jennings should've batted it down or done a better job at ripping it away.
It was bad, but I think ESPN hyped it up a ton to give them something to talk about for the rest of the week. I've seen worse so far this season and that call was a helluva lot less annoying than the several 3rd and long pass interferences I've seen or the obvious balls breaking the plains that they miss with or without reviews.
Honestly, I think the NFL has no reason to go back to regular refs. Everyone is talking about football, everyone is going to tune in to the car wreck..i think this is a good thing for the nfl in terms of ratings, revenue dollars etc.
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Honestly, I think the NFL has no reason to go back to regular refs. Everyone is talking about football, everyone is going to tune in to the car wreck..i think this is a good thing for the nfl in terms of ratings, revenue dollars etc.
you make a good point. now everyone will tune in to see the awful referee calls
Honestly, I think the NFL has no reason to go back to regular refs. Everyone is talking about football, everyone is going to tune in to the car wreck..i think this is a good thing for the nfl in terms of ratings, revenue dollars etc.
I heard some defensive player say(at least I think it was a defensive player)
"I like the replacement refs, they just let us play"
As a quarterback gets his helmet ripped off his head, loses part of his ear, on an illegal hit.....
Just sit down and settle with the refs..
Get it done in the next 2-3 days...
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.
Well those part-time employees are obviously a pretty vital part of this league.
yeah but they are greedy for wanting to get paid a fair wage. i mean they work at most 21 weeks a year and get the other half the year to line their coffers with other jobs. sure they have to prepare for the upcoming season by staying in shape and knowing the rulebook, but those old refs, once they have been around long enough and know they aren't going to get fired, just don't give a shit. fuck the unions man they make no sense.
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Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.
Well those part-time employees are obviously a pretty vital part of this league.
yeah but they are greedy for wanting to get paid a fair wage. i mean they work at most 21 weeks a year and get the other half the year to line their coffers with other jobs. sure they have to prepare for the upcoming season by staying in shape and knowing the rulebook, but those old refs, once they have been around long enough and know they aren't going to get fired, just don't give a shit. fuck the unions man they make no sense.
pretty sure it's not about the wages...it's about the pension vs. switching to a 401K system.
yeah but they are greedy for wanting to get paid a fair wage. i mean they work at most 21 weeks a year and get the other half the year to line their coffers with other jobs. sure they have to prepare for the upcoming season by staying in shape and knowing the rulebook, but those old refs, once they have been around long enough and know they aren't going to get fired, just don't give a shit. fuck the unions man they make no sense.
pretty sure it's not about the wages...it's about the pension vs. switching to a 401K system.[/quote]
my point is that the rich people always win they make the rules and change them how they see fit.
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Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
it depends on if you bet on the game ... i literally lost my fantasy football week on the last play ...
what i ultimately find confusing is how they could have reviewed it for 10 mins and come back with that call!?? ... please tell me the guy worked for the seahawks or is a fan of the seahawks or hates the packers ... something ... anything but that's how he saw it ... that would be the worst case scenario ...
I highly doubt they will suspend a guy for criticizing officials. This whole thing has gotten so out of hand that players just don't care anymore. It's a complete fucking joke. Roger Goodell is officially the worst commissioner in all of sports.
They could probably even get the NHL to do make the calls right...since they won't be busy for a while
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I hope more players stand up and send out tweets like this. The more pressure and attention that gets put on this issue the quicker it will get resolved. As it is now the NFL has no incentive or motivation to resolve this, people are still watching and going to games so they are still making money (that's how they see it anyway). I don't think they are considering the long term affects of turning their league into a complete embarrassment all to save a few bucks.
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2010 - Noblesville
2011 - EV solo St Louis, PJ20 Alpine Valley
2012 - San Fran (Oracle)
2013 - Wrigley, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014 - Cincy, St Louis, Detroit
2016 - Lexington, Wrigley
2018 - Wrigley
2022 - Nashville, St Louis
2024 - Noblesville, Wrigley
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The NFL is going to have some motivation to resolve this now that a huge fuck-up like last night cost the Packers a game.
You can't review possesion so if they called a td on the field it stands.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
Temp job. Low pay. Chance to make some real money before going back to officiating D3 and Arena League games?
:think:
I would hope so too but with Goodell you never know. I'd be shocked if the real refs weren't back by week 5.
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2010 - Noblesville
2011 - EV solo St Louis, PJ20 Alpine Valley
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2018 - Wrigley
2022 - Nashville, St Louis
2024 - Noblesville, Wrigley
Thats what I understood from the announcers...what I didn't understand is what were they reviewing? Were they just making sure the ball didn't hit the ground?
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
that is full of win
Now you're going to a conspiracy level. The real refs could be point shaving as well. The NFL is greedy. The refs are greedy as well. The NFL can't completely give in because then these part time employees will be running the league.
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Well those part-time employees are obviously a pretty vital part of this league.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-t ... conference
It was bad, but I think ESPN hyped it up a ton to give them something to talk about for the rest of the week. I've seen worse so far this season and that call was a helluva lot less annoying than the several 3rd and long pass interferences I've seen or the obvious balls breaking the plains that they miss with or without reviews.
you make a good point. now everyone will tune in to see the awful referee calls
"I like the replacement refs, they just let us play"
As a quarterback gets his helmet ripped off his head, loses part of his ear, on an illegal hit.....
Just sit down and settle with the refs..
Get it done in the next 2-3 days...
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
pretty sure it's not about the wages...it's about the pension vs. switching to a 401K system.
pretty sure it's not about the wages...it's about the pension vs. switching to a 401K system.[/quote]
my point is that the rich people always win they make the rules and change them how they see fit.
pensions are bad...
i have no issue with the NFL trying to switch it up.