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There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).lukin2006 said:
Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.lukin2006 said:I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...
I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.
QB is a very tricky position to gauge."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Of definitely ... my favourite QB first round bust Ryan Leaf....lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).lukin2006 said:
Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.lukin2006 said:I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...
I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.
QB is a very tricky position to gauge.I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
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Yeah, Leaf is a good.lukin2006 said:
Of definitely ... my favourite QB first round bust Ryan Leaf....lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).lukin2006 said:
Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.lukin2006 said:I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...
I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.
QB is a very tricky position to gauge.
Man, i can't remember his name, but he was 1st round draft pick(can't remember if he was a #1 overall pick or not). I want to say he went to LSU. He ate himself out of football because he got fat. I think he tried to make a comeback too.
AH, i just find out who he was: JaMarcus Russell & he was the first pick in the 2007 Draft.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/26/jamarcus-russell-oakland-raiders-draft-comeback
A little part from the article:
Based largely on this measure of athleticism—and a body to rival that of a linebacker—he was the first pick in the 2007 draft, lavished with more money than Peyton Manning, who’d just won the Super Bowl.0 -
this isn't rodgers sitting behind favre...I'm thinking goff sucks....and fisher is trying to keep his job.If I had known then what I know now...
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Media is saying that Osweiler should have stayed in Denver, but Houston offered him $37M guaranteed and Denver only offered $30M guaranteed. That is a lot of money for a QB who hasn't established himself to turn down. Judging by his performance so far this year, it looks to be a good business decision.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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Ryan Leaf. Yup... a champion for sure.lukin2006 said:
Of definitely ... my favourite QB first round bust Ryan Leaf....lolThirty Bills Unpaid said:
There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).lukin2006 said:
Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.lukin2006 said:I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...
I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.
QB is a very tricky position to gauge.
Peyton Manning picked first that year... then Leaf number two. Moss picked in that draft as well.
Jamarcus is the one that tipped the cart- to that point... the players' union protecting rookies who have never played a down in the NFL at the expense of veterans (salary cap in mind). Fixed contracts are much fairer."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
i can't believe two teams offered him at least $30 million guaranteed. average at best.Jason P said:Media is saying that Osweiler should have stayed in Denver, but Houston offered him $37M guaranteed and Denver only offered $30M guaranteed. That is a lot of money for a QB who hasn't established himself to turn down. Judging by his performance so far this year, it looks to be a good business decision.
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Looks like the Pats will get the Bills without McCoy this weekend. This coming after last week when they faced Pitt without Ben.
You can argue that this will be two straight weeks where the Pats travel on the road and face a good team without their best player.
Strange how things happen sometime.
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^ Pats played 4 weeks without their best player...it happens.Worcester1 13, Worcester2 13, Hartford 13, San Diego 13, Los Angeles1 13, Los Angeles2 13
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that's because he cheated not because of luck.SmallestOceans said:^ Pats played 4 weeks without their best player...it happens.
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It's rigged. Anyone check with Vegas to see how much and with what team Clinton placed her bets with?pjhawks said:
that's because he cheated not because of luck.SmallestOceans said:^ Pats played 4 weeks without their best player...it happens.
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wow icing the kicker actually worked8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PATres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA0 -
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well at leas this tie was more entertaining than the seahawks/cardinals tie from last week.8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PATres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA0 -
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PATres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA0 -
pretty spot on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VL3wkv77DU
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PATres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA0 -
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