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  • lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...

    I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.

    I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.
    Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.
    There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).

    QB is a very tricky position to gauge.
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  • lukin2006
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    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...

    I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.

    I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.
    Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.
    There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).

    QB is a very tricky position to gauge.
    Of definitely ... my favourite QB first round bust Ryan Leaf....lol
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  • cutz
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    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...

    I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.

    I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.
    Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.
    There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).

    QB is a very tricky position to gauge.
    Of definitely ... my favourite QB first round bust Ryan Leaf....lol
    Yeah, Leaf is a good.

    Man, i can't remember his name, but he was 1st round draft pick(can't remember if he was a #1 overall pick or not). I want to say he went to LSU. He ate himself out of football because he got fat. I think he tried to make a comeback too.

    AH, i just find out who he was: JaMarcus Russell & he was the first pick in the 2007 Draft.

    http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/26/jamarcus-russell-oakland-raiders-draft-comeback

    A little part from the article:

    Based largely on this measure of athleticism—and a body to rival that of a linebacker—he was the first pick in the 2007 draft, lavished with more money than Peyton Manning, who’d just won the Super Bowl.
  • Wobbie
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    this isn't rodgers sitting behind favre...I'm thinking goff sucks....and fisher is trying to keep his job.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Jason P
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    Media is saying that Osweiler should have stayed in Denver, but Houston offered him $37M guaranteed and Denver only offered $30M guaranteed. That is a lot of money for a QB who hasn't established himself to turn down. Judging by his performance so far this year, it looks to be a good business decision.
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  • lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I wouldn't write Goff off yet, Fisher has already said "he wants him to watch and learn", Wentze would have sat and watched if Minnesota didn't decide to make such a foolish trade and Prescott in Dallas was suppose to sit, then Romo got hurt...

    I believe Fisher sat McNair for 2 years before he started and he was pretty good.

    I'm not holding my breath, but you are right... there's a chance.
    Aaron Rogers sat as well, the same as I'm not annoiting Prescott and Wentz as the next all pro quartbacks ... both are off to terrific starts, but you just never know.
    There's also a boatload of QBs that speak to the contrary as well. There are more first round busts than first round successes (Kyle Boller from the same university comes to mind- great physical traits... but hardly the wherewithal to succeed).

    QB is a very tricky position to gauge.
    Of definitely ... my favourite QB first round bust Ryan Leaf....lol
    Ryan Leaf. Yup... a champion for sure.

    Peyton Manning picked first that year... then Leaf number two. Moss picked in that draft as well.

    Jamarcus is the one that tipped the cart- to that point... the players' union protecting rookies who have never played a down in the NFL at the expense of veterans (salary cap in mind). Fixed contracts are much fairer.
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  • pjhawks
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    Jason P said:

    Media is saying that Osweiler should have stayed in Denver, but Houston offered him $37M guaranteed and Denver only offered $30M guaranteed. That is a lot of money for a QB who hasn't established himself to turn down. Judging by his performance so far this year, it looks to be a good business decision.

    i can't believe two teams offered him at least $30 million guaranteed. average at best.
  • gregkitefan
    gregkitefan Posts: 1,122
    Looks like the Pats will get the Bills without McCoy this weekend. This coming after last week when they faced Pitt without Ben.
    You can argue that this will be two straight weeks where the Pats travel on the road and face a good team without their best player.
    Strange how things happen sometime.
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  • ^ Pats played 4 weeks without their best player...it happens.
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    ^ Pats played 4 weeks without their best player...it happens.

    that's because he cheated not because of luck.
  • pjhawks said:

    ^ Pats played 4 weeks without their best player...it happens.

    that's because he cheated not because of luck.
    It's rigged. Anyone check with Vegas to see how much and with what team Clinton placed her bets with?
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,251
    wow icing the kicker actually worked
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    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Indifference71
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    Kickers are the worst.
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,251
    edited October 2016
    well at leas this tie was more entertaining than the seahawks/cardinals tie from last week.
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    10/21/13- Philly, PA
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    4/28/16- Philly, PA
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    5/1/16- NYC
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    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
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    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,251
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,251
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
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