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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    The AFC east is trash and if you're pointing to a Tyrod Taylor playoff team as a reason why the division is not trash, you're losing.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Cliffy6745 said:
    The AFC east is trash and if you're pointing to a Tyrod Taylor playoff team as a reason why the division is not trash, you're losing.
    Yes cause I used that as the lone reason the division is the bestest evah.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,443
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Take everything you just said and apply it to Barry Bonds and tell me you don’t see greatness in Tom Brady. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,044
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Take everything you just said and apply it to Barry Bonds and tell me you don’t see greatness in Tom Brady. 

    here ya go......”I don’t see greatness in Tom Brady”

    no comparison to baseball......manager has about 1% the impact of a coach and the baseball offense doesn’t have the ball. is there a brady equivalent of 688 intentional bases on balls?
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    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?

    what are you even talking about, fanboy?

    (fanboy who asks for “the brady” at great clips. no lie)
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,044
    Wobbie said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?

    what are you even talking about, fanboy?

    (fanboy who asks for “the brady” at great clips. no lie)
    I must have previously posted this during one of your blackout phases.

    https://apple.news/Aww2Kx3i9QsiFhpzK1mEytg
     
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,044
    My guess is is that neither Acheman or Blowmo can compare seeing how they retired at ages 34 and 37 respectively. I’m sure Wob considers them “great” QBs though.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?

    what are you even talking about, fanboy?

    (fanboy who asks for “the brady” at great clips. no lie)
    I must have previously posted this during one of your blackout phases.

    https://apple.news/Aww2Kx3i9QsiFhpzK1mEytg
     

    from the “Pats Pulpit” :lol:

    you like that picture, huh?
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,044
    Wobbie said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?

    what are you even talking about, fanboy?

    (fanboy who asks for “the brady” at great clips. no lie)
    I must have previously posted this during one of your blackout phases.

    https://apple.news/Aww2Kx3i9QsiFhpzK1mEytg
     

    from the “Pats Pulpit” :lol:

    you like that picture, huh?
    What you respond with when you can’t argue the stats. For the record, thats a great photo of the GOAT.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    I hate to make this comparison, but....

    AMT....I’m the trump guy.....you cannot change my opinion, no matter how many facts you throw my way :wink:

    that said, go back to your AMT.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,044
    Wobbie said:
    I hate to make this comparison, but....

    AMT....I’m the trump guy.....you cannot change my opinion, no matter how many facts you throw my way :wink:

    that said, go back to your AMT.
    Go back to your Pappy. Or is it Big Papi?
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,443
    Big Sloppi
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Big Sloppi

    I have a definite love/hate with dyer. this ^^^, I obviously love.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,443
    At least you put love before hate :smile:
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,175
    we’ll drink some beers, someday.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • SmallestOceansSmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Poncier said:
    Aikman ahead of Brady?
    I've heard it all now.
    All he does is finds open guys? What is a QB supposed to do? 
    First QB to throw 50 TDs in a season, first to win 5 Super Bowls, most career regular season wins by a good margin, 3rd all time TD passes (your boy Troy is #73 all time there), 4th all time pass yards (will be 2nd early next year) Most playoff wins by a QB (28, 2nd place has 16).

    But yeah Aikman's better.
    Don’t feed the Wobbies. lol
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    Trieste 14, Vienna 14, Gdynia 14, Leeds 14, Milton Keynes 14, Denver 14
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    You can not compare QB's from the early '90s to today's wussified QB's ... today's QB's are over protected, guess they don't want them soiling their panties.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.
    Hard to take someone seriously who actually believes that.

    By the way, it was The Great Wall Of Dallas that made the offence function the way it did.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.


    By the way, it was The Great Wall Of Dallas that made the offence function the way it did.
    So you agree Aikman wasn't that vital to the team's success.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.
    Hard to take someone seriously who actually believes that.

     
    That's a bit of exaggeration to prove a point, Clearly Leaf would have lost to Young annually in the NFC title game.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Meltdown99 said:
    You can not compare QB's from the early '90s to today's wussified QB's ...
    Should we only compare Troy to his peers for Wobbie then?
    Behind guys like Chris Chandler, Rich Gannon, and Mark Brunell (won't even get into how far behind the likes of Kelly, Elway, Young and others he is). =)
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,443

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    edited January 2019
    HesCalledDyer said:

    you forgot more likely to cheat on a pregnant girlfriend
     
    and more likely to lose to Nick Foles in the Super Bowl (100%)
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,443
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,044
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
    Neither of which diminsih TB as GOAT.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,443
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
    Neither of which diminsih TB as GOAT.
    No arguments from me.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
    Neither of which diminsih TB as GOAT.
    No arguments from me.
    nor me.  
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