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Jason P

imalive wrote:

gregkitefan wrote:

There is no such thing as a "PED" in football. Those things only exist in baseball.
Everyone in football is clean........

you're right. what was I thinking?? :? :shock:

Anyone remember David Boston?

Ledbetterman10

Newch91

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

The Juggler

Jason P wrote:

Manning's response to Rob Lowe tweeting his retirement announcement:

“I never thought `Sodapop Curtis’ would announce my retirement,’’ Manning said, laughing, referring to Lowe’s character in the 1983 movie “The Outsiders.’’ “I always thought I would be the one to announce it. I’m a huge fan of the movie, but that caught me way off guard. I can’t explain it. I know he (Lowe) is a friend of Jim’s (Irsay), and Jim sounded surprised.’’

His future is in Jim Irsay's hands. The new GM will not be a factor according to Manning.

peyton manning is a funny dude.

i actually liked that papa johns commerical with him as the ref telling bettis "hey a man's gotta work" or something to that effect.

81

Jason P wrote:

imalive wrote:

gregkitefan wrote:

There is no such thing as a "PED" in football. Those things only exist in baseball.
Everyone in football is clean........

you're right. what was I thinking?? :? :shock:

Anyone remember David Boston?

Buckeyes....yup....i was pretty awesome in college....had one solid season, got hurt, and was never the same

Jason P

Another Patriots conspiracy theory to dwell on ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/why-billy-cundiff-rushed-fateful-field-goal-try-013101618.html

Apparantly the Raven's kicker has a routine he goes through that changes depending what down it is. The scoreboard operator changed the down from second to third and Cundiff was rushed. Could the Patriots possibly have known this?

Sounds like a far stretch ... but you can never rule anything out with New England/

:think:

g under p

Jason P wrote:

Another Patriots conspiracy theory to dwell on ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/why-billy-cundiff-rushed-fateful-field-goal-try-013101618.html

Apparantly the Raven's kicker has a routine he goes through that changes depending what down it is. The scoreboard operator changed the down from second to third and Cundiff was rushed. Could the Patriots possibly have known this?

Sounds like a far stretch ... but you can never rule anything out with New England/

:think:

Make the kick....there's NO issue there.

Peace

Jason P

g under p wrote:

Make the kick....there's NO issue there.

Peace

Still, it's hard to resist speculating on what the Sith is capable of.

Jason P

Colts name Chuck Pagano as the new head coach.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120125/SPORTS03/120125030/Chuck-Pagano-named-new-Colts-head-coach?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|IndyStar.com

The Juggler

Jason P wrote:

Colts name Chuck Pagano as the new head coach.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120125/SPORTS03/120125030/Chuck-Pagano-named-new-Colts-head-coach?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|IndyStar.com

wow...talk about a 180 change in philosophy.


i don't think peyton's coming back.

81

The Juggler wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Colts name Chuck Pagano as the new head coach.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120125/SPORTS03/120125030/Chuck-Pagano-named-new-Colts-head-coach?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|IndyStar.com

wow...talk about a 180 change in philosophy.


i don't think peyton's coming back.

why not?

if he is healthy...i can see him going back...it's not like he really needs a HC with an offensive background...

cowboypjfan

Another 6 years of Goodell. Woohooo

Guaranteed to be the National Flag Football League by 2015

Newch91

crazypjfan wrote:

Another 6 years of Goodell. Woohooo

DewieCox

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Colts name Chuck Pagano as the new head coach.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120125/SPORTS03/120125030/Chuck-Pagano-named-new-Colts-head-coach?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|IndyStar.com

wow...talk about a 180 change in philosophy.


i don't think peyton's coming back.

why not?

if he is healthy...i can see him going back...it's not like he really needs a HC with an offensive background...

I'm not sure he's coming back, but this makes me lean more towards him coming back than anything else that's come out about it.

I think all the statements about him leaving are getting blown way outta proportion.

I dig the move, having assumed they were gonna hire Tressel.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Colts name Chuck Pagano as the new head coach.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120125/SPORTS03/120125030/Chuck-Pagano-named-new-Colts-head-coach?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|IndyStar.com

wow...talk about a 180 change in philosophy.


i don't think peyton's coming back.

why not?

if he is healthy...i can see him going back...it's not like he really needs a HC with an offensive background...

seems like they are gutting that team from the top down. new gm, new, defensive minded coach, totally new system. they're probably a few years from seriously contending again. peyton's owed a huge bonus in a month and they'll most likely draft andrew luck in april...think it makes sense for both sides to move on at this point.

jimed14

New York players, past and present, really need to avoid Inside The NFL interviews.

Last week, Tomlinson pretty much killed the Jets locker room and wasn't too kind to Sanchez.

... and right now I'm watching Lawrence Taylor do himself no good by answering questions about the underage prostitution charges he faced.

Oooof.

Jason P

Peyton Manning's Future

The biggest issue is that we will not know Manning's health status by March 8th, which is when the Colts have to pay a $28M bonus option if he is still on the roster. That $28M will have consequence over the next four years on the salary cap whether or not Peyton ever plays another down. That is a big risk.

Based on Cam Newtons contract, Andrew Luck will have around a $4.5M hit to next years cap. Peyton's base salary of $7.5M along with bonuses brings his salary cap for 2012 to around $17M. So the Colts would have have around $21M locked up in the QB position (note: even if they release Manning prior to March 8th, his current bonuses due will still have a $10M hit on the Colts in 2012).

So releasing him will still have around $14M salary cap hit for the Colts in 2012. But, they won't have an additional $7M hitting the cap for each of the next four years.

So every Colts fan's dream is that Manning will play 1-2 more years while mentoring Luck (and believe you me, I would love for that to happen). But the Colts would still have a $7M cap hit after he retires until 2016. And Luck is not sitting on the bench for four years. If Manning plays out the entire remainder of his contract and Luck is sitting on the bench, that means the Colts are paying a #1 overall draft-pick to sit on the bench and he will be a free agent.

Jim Irsay has stated they are taking a QB with the number one pick. Does it make sense to pay someone $28M to mentor a number 1 pick for a year? With the info I have outlined above and using pragmatic logic and common sense, Peyton Manning will be released prior to March 7th, 2012.

I shall now go light myself on fire and jump into uncoming traffic.

81

Jason P wrote:

Peyton Manning's Future

The biggest issue is that we will not know Manning's health status by March 8th, which is when the Colts have to pay a $28M bonus option if he is still on the roster. That $28M will have consequence over the next four years on the salary cap whether or not Peyton ever plays another down. That is a big risk.

Based on Cam Newtons contract, Andrew Luck will have around a $4.5M hit to next years cap. Peyton's base salary of $7.5M along with bonuses brings his salary cap for 2012 to around $17M. So the Colts would have have around $21M locked up in the QB position (note: even if they release Manning prior to March 8th, his current bonuses due will still have a $10M hit on the Colts in 2012).

So releasing him will still have around $14M salary cap hit for the Colts in 2012. But, they won't have an additional $7M hitting the cap for each of the next four years.

So every Colts fan's dream is that Manning will play 1-2 more years while mentoring Luck (and believe you me, I would love for that to happen). But the Colts would still have a $7M cap hit after he retires until 2016. And Luck is not sitting on the bench for four years. If Manning plays out the entire remainder of his contract and Luck is sitting on the bench, that means the Colts are paying a #1 overall draft-pick to sit on the bench and he will be a free agent.

Jim Irsay has stated they are taking a QB with the number one pick. Does it make sense to pay someone $28M to mentor a number 1 pick for a year? With the info I have outlined above and using pragmatic logic and common sense, Peyton Manning will be released prior to March 7th, 2012.

I shall now go light myself on fire and jump into uncoming traffic.

what if they redid his contract???

Jason P

81 wrote:

what if they redid his contract???

And push the date back for the bonus? You still carry the risk and will be making the #1 pick a backup for four years or take huge hits in the cap for four years.

This is a fucked-up scenario that I could have never envisioned ever happening as little as six months ago. I blame Curtis Painter. I had to watch that fucking idiot for four years at Purdue and now his incompetence has led to the Colts getting the #1 pick ... which may work out in the long run, but it would kill me to see Manning playing elsewhere. He is the reason the Colts are in Indy and not L.A. The entire state owes allegiance to him.

norm

Shortly after introducing new coach Chuck Pagano on Thursday, Irsay said Manning should have kept his thoughts "in the family." When asked whether a decision on Manning was next, Irsay went into a long answer, calling Manning a "politician" and suggested he was "campaigning" publicly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2 ... lp00000003


i think we've seen the last of peyton in indy