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Newch91

norm wrote:

Shortly after introducing new coach Chuck Pagano on Thursday, Irsay said Manning should have kept his thoughts "in the family." When asked whether a decision on Manning was next, Irsay went into a long answer, calling Manning a "politician" and suggested he was "campaigning" publicly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2 ... lp00000003


i think we've seen the last of peyton in indy

How many fans will Indy lose?

The Juggler

Newch91 wrote:

norm wrote:

Shortly after introducing new coach Chuck Pagano on Thursday, Irsay said Manning should have kept his thoughts "in the family." When asked whether a decision on Manning was next, Irsay went into a long answer, calling Manning a "politician" and suggested he was "campaigning" publicly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2 ... lp00000003


i think we've seen the last of peyton in indy

How many fans will Indy lose?

none. they'll draft luck and they'll be fired up about that just like they were when they drafted manning back in the day.

The Juggler

bucs gonna sign schiano huh?

from rutgers to the nfl...

norm

The Juggler wrote:

none. they'll draft luck and they'll be fired up about that just like they were when they drafted manning back in the day.

yep

this reminds me of the spurs...the admiral goes down and is out for the season, the spurs tank and get #1 pick which turns out to be tim duncan

F Me In The Brain

Jason P wrote:

81 wrote:

what if they redid his contract???

And push the date back for the bonus? You still carry the risk and will be making the #1 pick a backup for four years or take huge hits in the cap for four years.

This is a fucked-up scenario that I could have never envisioned ever happening as little as six months ago. I blame Curtis Painter. I had to watch that fucking idiot for four years at Purdue and now his incompetence has led to the Colts getting the #1 pick ... which may work out in the long run, but it would kill me to see Manning playing elsewhere. He is the reason the Colts are in Indy and not L.A. The entire state owes allegiance to him.

I love football fans! Blame the shit-ball qb who should not be on any roster on any team. He should not have been on the roster at Purdue and he sucked total balls playing for Indy this year. Fault? The team. But I love the fan perspective to blame the player and get a laugh/feel better that way. (This is the type of logic I might take as well!)
Truly is a shame -- I (like all 49ers fans) had to watch Joe Montana put on a Chiefs jersey. Ugghghhhh, I still want to throw up in my mouth.

Jason P

F Me In The Brain wrote:

I love football fans! Blame the shit-ball qb who should not be on any roster on any team. He should not have been on the roster at Purdue and he sucked total balls playing for Indy this year. Fault? The team. But I love the fan perspective to blame the player and get a laugh/feel better that way. (This is the type of logic I might take as well!)
Truly is a shame -- I (like all 49ers fans) had to watch Joe Montana put on a Chiefs jersey. Ugghghhhh, I still want to throw up in my mouth.

Painter has all the tangibles to be a great QB. But I watched him play enough games in college that I knew he would not make it in the NFL when he couldn't handle the Big Ten.

I remember being at a friend's house when the draft was on and Indy had the next pick. NFL network put up the "Top 10 Still On The Board" and Painter was listed around 5th. I jokingly told my buddy, "I feel bad for the poor shlubs that draft him". Seconds later they announce the Colts select Curtis Painter and I let out a "Nooooooooo!!!!". Little did I know ...

I know it is a little silly to blame just one player ... but ... Curtis Painter was 0 - 8 as a starter and he kept getting worse after each game he played. Dan Orlovsky was cut after training camp and sent to the practice squad. After he took over as starter, he went 2 - 3 (beating a playoff bound Houston Texans to boot while losing to the Steelers and Pats ... and the Jags) and almost cost the Colts the first overall pick by almost leading them to a 3 game winning streak to end the season (which probably would have caused my head to explode in utter confusion).

If Curtis Painter was cut in training camp, would Dan Orlovsky have won one of those eight games? We will never know. But my guess is that he would have had a great chance. I don't think the Colts would have been much better, but my guess is that they would be picking between 4 - 9 in the draft instead of number one.

Getting the number one pick has forced Irsay's hand to blow up the current system. All that Indy fans have know has / will drastically change. I don't think Irsay would have done this if they went 5 -11. But now they have a chance to get one of the most coveted draft picks since ... well, since Peyton Manning.

I just hope the future works out ...

Jason P

Newch91 wrote:

How many fans will Indy lose?

If any, fuk 'em.

Manning took Indiana from a basketball state to a football state. The transformation has been amazing. As long as the Colts organization continues to run with pride and virtue (basically the complete opposite of the Indiana Pacers over the last decade), the fans will stay loyal.

Now, if it gets to the point where players are running into the stand creating mass brawls ... or getting run over by cars purposely in the parking lot of a strip club at 2 am while firing their Glock 9 mm's into the air ... well, then the Colts may start losing some fans. :ugeek:

pjhawks

The Juggler wrote:

bucs gonna sign schiano huh?

from rutgers to the nfl...

this has got to be the most baffling hire by an NFL outside of the Raiders ever. this guy was mediocre at Rutgers. One game over .500 with one big season what 4 years ago and somehow parlays that to a head NFL coaching job? utterly baffling.

The Juggler

norm wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

none. they'll draft luck and they'll be fired up about that just like they were when they drafted manning back in the day.

yep

this reminds me of the spurs...the admiral goes down and is out for the season, the spurs tank and get #1 pick which turns out to be tim duncan

i'll thank you never to bring that up again.






my sixers had the 2nd pick that year. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

g under p

norm wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

none. they'll draft luck and they'll be fired up about that just like they were when they drafted manning back in the day.

yep

this reminds me of the spurs...the admiral goes down and is out for the season, the spurs tank and get #1 pick which turns out to be tim duncan

......and they were able to get Tim duncan over the Celtics who had 2 picks in the top 5 and STILL didn't snag him. :(

Peace

81

norm

The Juggler wrote:

i'll thank you never to bring that up again.

my sixers had the 2nd pick that year. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

g under p wrote:

......and they were able to get Tim duncan over the Celtics who had 2 picks in the top 5 and STILL didn't snag him. :(

Peace

sorry guys...didn't realize it was a sore spot :P

81

picks 2 & 6...

which they used on Billups and ron Mercer, and passed over tracy mcgrady....

The Juggler

81 wrote:

picks 2 & 6...

which they used on Billups and ron Mercer, and passed over tracy mcgrady....

no the sixers had the 2nd pick which they used on keith van horn...then traded him to the nets for tim thomas. :x

it takes a lot for me to not like a villanova player and i hated tim thomas.

81

The Juggler wrote:

81 wrote:

picks 2 & 6...

which they used on Billups and ron Mercer, and passed over tracy mcgrady....

no the sixers had the 2nd pick which they used on keith van horn...then traded him to the nets for tim thomas. :x

it takes a lot for me to not like a villanova player and i hated tim thomas.

duh...i was gonna say something about them not taking KVH too.

here is the full draft...not much in it behond Duncan, Chauncy and McGrady

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_NBA_Draft

The Juggler

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

81 wrote:

picks 2 & 6...

which they used on Billups and ron Mercer, and passed over tracy mcgrady....

no the sixers had the 2nd pick which they used on keith van horn...then traded him to the nets for tim thomas. :x

it takes a lot for me to not like a villanova player and i hated tim thomas.

duh...i was gonna say something about them not taking KVH too.

here is the full draft...not much in it behond Duncan, Chauncy and McGrady

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_NBA_Draft

bad draft. i forgot tony batie was taken so high

norm

kids always have the right perspective

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/0 ... y/related/

F Me In The Brain

norm wrote:

kids always have the right perspective

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/0 ... y/related/

Cool story.
(Not sure about the #1 fan part but I think it is very cool that the kid could sympathize with Kyle Williams and would reach out like that.)

jimed14

F Me In The Brain wrote:

norm wrote:

kids always have the right perspective

http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/0 ... y/related/

Cool story.
(Not sure about the #1 fan part but I think it is very cool that the kid could sympathize with Kyle Williams and would reach out like that.)

Meanwhile, I'm so old and cynical, I read that and thought, "I bet the father made him do it hoping to score free tickets or something."

Wobbie

Chad Ochocinco - your Super Bowl XLVI MVP :shock: