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    Tonight was my second Packers game of the season, still have yet to see a point. Didn't get to see Rodgers either. Not what I was expecting going into the season, very disappointing.
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.







    He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls. 

    The rules don't know him? That was funny.
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.







    He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls. 

    The rules don't know him? That was funny.
    In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.
     
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.







    He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls. 

    The rules don't know him? That was funny.
    In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.
     
    I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules. 

    That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth. 
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.







    He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls. 

    The rules don't know him? That was funny.
    In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.
     
    I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules. 

    That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth. 
    Or come in second. 11-5 and missing it is bullshit. But that said, BB LOST his starting QB, has never had big money/name, complete game, position players and he goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs. Since then? 9 straight AFC east titles and last year 28-3. Fuck Vince Lombardi.
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.







    He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls. 

    The rules don't know him? That was funny.
    In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.
     
    I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules. 

    That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth. 
    Or come in second. 11-5 and missing it is bullshit. But that said, BB LOST his starting QB, has never had big money/name, complete game, position players and he goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs. Since then? 9 straight AFC east titles and last year 28-3. Fuck Vince Lombardi.

    Can't compare eras.

    I'm not a Pats fan... but I'm not a hater either. I respect them- how can you not?

    That said... you can't compare eras.
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    Oh yeah... Brady and Trump are best friends lol.
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.







    He missed the playoffs! When I say he wants to win without brady, I'm talking about winning super bowls. 

    The rules don't know him? That was funny.
    In any other sport, league, what have you, can a 11-5 Team miss the playoffs and thus the super bowl by another division’s team going 8-8 or 7-9. Two losses to the jets and sexy rexy thought he was super bowl bound. Nobody but nobody but BB knows the rules. Nobody.
     
    I don't disagree with you about BB knowing the rules. 

    That's what makes football a great sport. You have to win your division to guarantee a playoff birth. 
    Or come in second. 11-5 and missing it is bullshit. But that said, BB LOST his starting QB, has never had big money/name, complete game, position players and he goes 11-5 and misses the playoffs. Since then? 9 straight AFC east titles and last year 28-3. Fuck Vince Lombardi.

    Can't compare eras.

    I'm not a Pats fan... but I'm not a hater either. I respect them- how can you not?

    That said... you can't compare eras.
    Well, it’s hard not to when you era began in 2001 and here it is 2017. 16 years of unbridled success. Not without its controversy, mind you. But stick um? Remember that? Kelvin Winslow getting injections on the sideline between plays? Jerry rice admitting to basically cheating ? Romanowski and his tackle box full of pills? In the grasp not being called or the fumble that never was? Aaron ouch my collarbone hurts Rodgers admitting he prefers balls over inflated? (And they are). Mike Tomlin mad all the time?
     
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    DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
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    Why is it bullshit? One year the AFC had a lot of good teams. The pats 5 losses were all costly. I think they lost 3 different tie breakers that hear.
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    Why is it bullshit? One year the AFC had a lot of good teams. The pats 5 losses were all costly. I think they lost 3 different tie breakers that hear.
    Geez Scott, because a team with a 7-9 record or 8-8 beat out 11-5. Math is not your strong suite?
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    Why is it bullshit? One year the AFC had a lot of good teams. The pats 5 losses were all costly. I think they lost 3 different tie breakers that hear.
    And dude? I’m over it. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of the NFL. First and foremost, their a business.
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    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.

    add BB to halifax’s list of man crushes.
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    Montana and Walsh will always be linked. TB and BB will as well. Doesn’t matter what they do after they split up. 

    halfax would like to be linked to brady.

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    Wobbie said:
    This is my opinion. Kraft nixed the idea of trading brady. BB got pissed that Kraft essentially chose TB over BB. So BB traded away the future of the team in JG and JB. I feel like he's going to leave and he's leaving the patriots without a future qb.  I also think he will leave before Brady retires just so he can show Kraft that it was that system and not the qb that created the success in NE since 2001.
    I don’t think any of that is in dispute. BB’s legacy is cemented in NE. Non-story. One player does not a team make. BB doesn’t like having a non-staff member telling team players what or how to do things. Guerrero isn’t on the Patriots team payroll. Any employer would have an issue with it. Contrived controversy.
    You don't think BB and TB aren't going to be linked together? Neither of them won without each other. I think BB wanted to move away to from Brady after this season so be could show that he could win without brady. 
    Of course they are. But that said, BB’s genius lies in seeing all of the moving parts, from the owner, to the players he has, to the future and the past, to the water boy. His draft picks have confounded us. His play calling has been suspect. His strategy? Get inside the head of your opponent, know them well and exploit and execute. It’s all about next week, a continuous one game season lasting 18-19 games. BB knows the rules but the rules do not know him. While everyone else is playing checkers, he’s playing 11 dimensional chess. And of course he can win without Brady. Doh, 11-5 and missed the playoffs. Only in the NFL.

    add BB to halifax’s list of man crushes.
    Jealous?
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    And, if BB wanted to fuck the Patriots by trading away their future at QB, he would have traded Garoppolo to the jets and Brisset to the Bills. But BB wanted to see both flourish somewhere and not be devoured by ineptitude. BB shows respect where earned.
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    Brady to Gronk! GOAT combo! :sunglasses:
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    More bullsht. Another catch. The NFL blows 
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    Brady to Gronk! GOAT combo! :sunglasses:
    Montana to Rice will never be touched as greatest combo. Gronk/Brady is the greatest QB/TE combo. 
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    More bullsht. Another catch. The NFL blows 
    Ha ha! The NFL does it just for you Cliffy.
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    Brady to Gronk! GOAT combo! :sunglasses:
    Montana to Rice will never be touched as greatest combo. Gronk/Brady is the greatest QB/TE combo. 
    It'll be a good debate when all is said and done.
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    More bullsht. Another catch. The NFL blows 
    Absolutely.
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    Brady to Gronk! GOAT combo! :sunglasses:
    Montana to Rice will never be touched as greatest combo. Gronk/Brady is the greatest QB/TE combo. 
    It'll be a good debate when all is said and done.
    Agreed. Problem with Gronk is he can’t stay healthy. Different positions, but judging them purely on receiving Gronk would need to average almost 2000 receiving yards for the next 7 seasons to catch Rice. People forget now how impressive Rice’s  almost 23000 receiving yards is. Rice still today has 7000 more receiving yards than anyone else. He is the greatest player in NFL history. Reason I say no one will touch him and Montana is Montana is one of the top 2 QB’s ever. Purely as receiving combos we will never see another Rice involved with anyone.  Fitz in AZ was supposed to challenge Rice’s numbers. Fitz is a 1st ballot HOF guy and can’t get close to Rice. 
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    And, if BB wanted to fuck the Patriots by trading away their future at QB, he would have traded Garoppolo to the jets and Brisset to the Bills. But BB wanted to see both flourish somewhere and not be devoured by ineptitude. BB shows respect where earned.

    Trading their only 2 young backups for next to nothing isnt screwing them? No future at QB would kill any team.
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    And, if BB wanted to fuck the Patriots by trading away their future at QB, he would have traded Garoppolo to the jets and Brisset to the Bills. But BB wanted to see both flourish somewhere and not be devoured by ineptitude. BB shows respect where earned.

    Trading their only 2 young backups for next to nothing isnt screwing them? No future at QB would kill any team.
    It’s the “system.” Any third stringer or DII QB in the draft, waiver or out of retirement will work. BB is going anywhere soon. Unless he gets his sixth.
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