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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,411
    Tom Brady is a system QB
    Correction. Tom Brady is the GOAT
    Has there ever been an unsuccessful QB in that system? I think not 
    I've pointed this out many a times
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    ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,964
    RiotZact said:
    Speak of the devil, Aaron Rodgers just announced that he is cleared to play in Carolina Sunday!
    I am so damn scared and excited. This is not the kind of drama I need In my life during finals week. Was checking for updates on it every couple minutes for the last couple days.
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    ehbacon said:
    RiotZact said:
    Speak of the devil, Aaron Rodgers just announced that he is cleared to play in Carolina Sunday!
    I am so damn scared and excited. This is not the kind of drama I need In my life during finals week. Was checking for updates on it every couple minutes for the last couple days.
    Haha I just had my last final today. I don’t want to get to cocky about the Packers bucause there’s still a lot that could go wrong, but you know those fuckers in Carolina are terrified right now. And if the Packers win, the Vikings better be REALLY fucking terrified next week. 
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    ehbacon said:
    Its a game they can afford to lose. They purposely played soft so as not to tip their hand offensively or defensively to the Steelers, a much more important game with more tangible benefits to winning. Bill treated this game as a practice with pads. Why risk injuries and show your playbook for a meaningless game? They still go 12-4 and make the playoffs if they lose next week. And home field in the playoffs hasn't always been kind to them.
    Ahhh so Brady must have been throwing those picks on purpose last night then huh?  Funny how SOME Pats fans can't even entertain the notion that they just got beat.  
    Ummmm not some, ALL.
    So Tom had a bad day in a stadium or against a team where he’s traditionally has a bad day. Those two picks were under thrown and pretty awesome defense plays were made as well. I just don’t think the Pats’ game in with a game plan and mindset to win 37-3. They’re saving it for next week. Remind me again what Tom’s TD to INT ratio is again, season and career. I said at the start of the season they’d go 12-4, hardly indicative of not admitting they can be beat or lose.
    Just feel obligated to point out that Rodgers has a much better TD-INT ratio. 
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    ehbacon said:
    Its a game they can afford to lose. They purposely played soft so as not to tip their hand offensively or defensively to the Steelers, a much more important game with more tangible benefits to winning. Bill treated this game as a practice with pads. Why risk injuries and show your playbook for a meaningless game? They still go 12-4 and make the playoffs if they lose next week. And home field in the playoffs hasn't always been kind to them.
    Ahhh so Brady must have been throwing those picks on purpose last night then huh?  Funny how SOME Pats fans can't even entertain the notion that they just got beat.  
    Ummmm not some, ALL.
    So Tom had a bad day in a stadium or against a team where he’s traditionally has a bad day. Those two picks were under thrown and pretty awesome defense plays were made as well. I just don’t think the Pats’ game in with a game plan and mindset to win 37-3. They’re saving it for next week. Remind me again what Tom’s TD to INT ratio is again, season and career. I said at the start of the season they’d go 12-4, hardly indicative of not admitting they can be beat or lose.
    Just feel obligated to point out that Rodgers has a much better TD-INT ratio. 
    Who has more rings?
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    Amongst the AniAmongst the Ani @Wobbie Posts: 7,790
    If you put Rodgers  on the Patriots he would have won more rings than Brady has. Rodgers > Brady.
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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    How many rings would Brady have with McCarthy?
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    If you put Rodgers  on the Patriots he would have won more rings than Brady has. Rodgers > Brady.
    Speculation. Let’s discuss facts.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Fact:  Brady is good friends with President Trump
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    edited December 2017
    I think that Brady is the greatest player of all time, but Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback ever and probably always will be. Brady wins GOAT because of the rings and his ability to show up and pull his best plays out of his ass when the game is on the line. But there’s no way in hell you can say Brady can pull off the type of plays/throws that Rodgers does on a consistent basis.

    Also, Rodger’s stats are other worldly from a proficiency standpoint, every milestone he hits is a record in terms of how many pass attempts it takes him to get there. For example, it took Rodgers 4,742 pass attempts to throw his 300th TD, 2nd place? Peyton Manning with 5,306, then Brady with 5,321 and Marino with 5,460. That means that an average of 77 attempts separates 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place, yet Rodgers has 564 fewer attempts than 2nd place, that’s not even close! That’s not even fucking close to being close. That has to be one of the most impressive and meaningful stats I’ve ever heard, and there’s countless more just like it. 

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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
    Manning= GOAT 
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    Jason P said:
    Fact:  Brady is good friends with President Trump

    Lol

    Halifax... it's got to grind your gears just a little bit that Brady and Trump are real chums (good pals according to Trump) eh?
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 
    Is was a small miracle the Colts won two games the season he was injured.
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,747
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,411
    DewieCox said:
    Manning= GOAT 
    Eli?
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,411
    RiotZact said:
    I think that Brady is the greatest player of all time, but Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback ever and probably always will be. Brady wins GOAT because of the rings and his ability to show up and pull his best plays out of his ass when the game is on the line. But there’s no way in hell you can say Brady can pull off the type of plays/throws that Rodgers does on a consistent basis.

    Also, Rodger’s stats are other worldly from a proficiency standpoint, every milestone he hits is a record in terms of how many pass attempts it takes him to get there. For example, it took Rodgers 4,742 pass attempts to throw his 300th TD, 2nd place? Peyton Manning with 5,306, then Brady with 5,321 and Marino with 5,460. That means that an average of 77 attempts separates 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place, yet Rodgers has 564 fewer attempts than 2nd place, that’s not even close! That’s not even fucking close to being close. That has to be one of the most impressive and meaningful stats I’ve ever heard, and there’s countless more just like it. 

    someone on Twitter posted that if Rodgers next 60 passes were interceptions. He would still have a higher passer rating than Brady. I haven't checked if it was true. But it probably is
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,633
    If Rodgers won his next 70 regular season and playoff games combined, TB would still have a higher career win percentage than aaron
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    igotid88 said:
    RiotZact said:
    I think that Brady is the greatest player of all time, but Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback ever and probably always will be. Brady wins GOAT because of the rings and his ability to show up and pull his best plays out of his ass when the game is on the line. But there’s no way in hell you can say Brady can pull off the type of plays/throws that Rodgers does on a consistent basis.

    Also, Rodger’s stats are other worldly from a proficiency standpoint, every milestone he hits is a record in terms of how many pass attempts it takes him to get there. For example, it took Rodgers 4,742 pass attempts to throw his 300th TD, 2nd place? Peyton Manning with 5,306, then Brady with 5,321 and Marino with 5,460. That means that an average of 77 attempts separates 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place, yet Rodgers has 564 fewer attempts than 2nd place, that’s not even close! That’s not even fucking close to being close. That has to be one of the most impressive and meaningful stats I’ve ever heard, and there’s countless more just like it. 

    someone on Twitter posted that if Rodgers next 60 passes were interceptions. He would still have a higher passer rating than Brady. I haven't checked if it was true. But it probably is
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    ed243421 said:
    If Rodgers won his next 70 regular season and playoff games combined, TB would still have a higher career win percentage than aaron
    Wrong. If the Packers won their next 70 regular season and playoff games with Aaron Rodgers at QB, the Patriots would still have a higher win percentage with Brady at QB. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers don’t win or lose games, the Patriots or Packers do. 
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    The NFL is not going to suspend Michael Bennett because they determined he was going for the ball when he tried to end the Jag's center career even though he was facing opposite of Bortels and was a good 5 yards away



    The NFL Wheel of Justice strikes again!


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    ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,964
    ed243421 said:
    If Rodgers won his next 70 regular season and playoff games combined, TB would still have a higher career win percentage than aaron
    Good thing wins are a team stat and cannot be contributed to just one player, or else we'd be in some major trouble here.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    It doesn't help when you head coach spends all game studying the Denny's menu


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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,633
    ehbacon said:
    ed243421 said:
    If Rodgers won his next 70 regular season and playoff games combined, TB would still have a higher career win percentage than aaron
    Good thing wins are a team stat and cannot be contributed to just one player, or else we'd be in some major trouble here.
    What’s the packers record without aaron this season?
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,603
    Has there ever been a Tom Brady backup that has been unsuccessful for the Patriots?
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,747
    Jason P said:
    The NFL is not going to suspend Michael Bennett because they determined he was going for the ball when he tried to end the Jag's center career even though he was facing opposite of Bortels and was a good 5 yards away



    The NFL Wheel of Justice strikes again!



    What a joke.  That guy is one of the biggest pieces of shit in the league.  Intentionally going after a guys knee trying to injure him and the league does nothing. 

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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    Fuck the Seahawks.
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    RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 6,207
    Jason P said:
    It doesn't help when you head coach spends all game studying the Denny's menu


    I’m not a MM hater like some Packers fans are, I think he’s a top 5 current coach. But he and the current Packers organization are no BB and the Patriots organization. 
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    Jason P said:
    Fact:  Brady is good friends with President Trump

    Lol

    Halifax... it's got to grind your gears just a little bit that Brady and Trump are real chums (good pals according to Trump) eh?
    Trump tells 5.6 lies a day on average. Why would anyone believe that? 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,613
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    Unless Aaron Rodgers wins 5 or more super bowl rings, nobody’s going to be talking about him in 10 years. Look at Marino. Look at Kelley. Stats are fine but unless you bring the hardware, they’re meaningless. Ask any of those QBs if they’d trade stats for a SB ring and see what they say.
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,412
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    Manning= GOAT 

    Manning is one of the all time greats, but no way is he the GOAT.  The 2 Super Bowls he won were courtesy of Rex Grossman and the Denver D.

    Manning had a few skill players here and there, but mostly those Colts team were totally dependent on him, and there weren’t many game where he had an opportunity and blew it. He never had a great head coach and he was the oc. 

    Brady’s 5 wins are courtesy of Belichek’s and Pete Carrols coaching, Vinatieri’s leg and aat miniumim well rounded Pats roster.
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