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  • Beast mode = joke
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,888
    Wobbie said:
    Oakland absolutely deserves a team. much more so than jacksonville, carolina, miami, etc.

    Sad!
    Jacksonville absolutely should have been moved. Miami has too much history. Carolina.....eh...



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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    You know when you see the Gillette ads during any football game, you think of TB12 and the GOAT. You know it. KC and Oakland? Jokes.
    I do not think of Tom Brady when I see a Gillette ad, I think of shaving like a normal person. 
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,521
    You know when you see the Gillette ads during any football game, you think of TB12 and the GOAT. You know it. KC and Oakland? Jokes.
    wait, you watch commercials?
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    You know when you see the Gillette ads during any football game, you think of TB12 and the GOAT. You know it. KC and Oakland? Jokes.
    Huh.  Makes me think of a corporation trying to cheat me out of my money with over-priced razors.
  • ehbacon said:
    You know when you see the Gillette ads during any football game, you think of TB12 and the GOAT. You know it. KC and Oakland? Jokes.
    I do not think of Tom Brady when I see a Gillette ad, I think of shaving like a normal person. 
    If you were old (like Faxxxi & I) you might think of Victor Kiam, who famously bought Remington after his wife gave him his first electric razor.
    "I liked it so much, I bought the company!"
    In the late 80s he bought the Pats from the Sullivans, who had owned since they formed.
    This made shaving and Patriots go together...so it was a natural fit when Gillette bought naming rights to the new stadium in Foxboro.

    I do think of the Patriots, not of Tom Brady....and I think of Victor Kiam/Remington Products.
     
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Is Barry Bonds the GOAT of baseball?
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    Jason P said:
    Is Barry Bonds the GOAT of baseball?
    duh.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    Wobbie said:
    Oakland absolutely deserves a team. much more so than jacksonville, carolina, miami, etc.

    Sad!
    Jacksonville absolutely should have been moved. Miami has too much history. Carolina.....eh...

    I did kind of consider that. still.....
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Beast mode = joke

    Agreed. For so many reasons.
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    Jason P said:
    Is Barry Bonds the GOAT of baseball?
    No, the best but I wouldn't say the greatest. Too much of a tarnished legacy. Same reason BB is the probably the best coach of all time but not the GOAT. He will never be able to accomplish a legacy like Lombardi.

    Brady is the GOAT. Not nearly the best quarterback, but based on accomplishment he is the GOAT.
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  • Lombardi is overrated.  Sid Gilman and Bill Walsh were better.  BB is greatest coach ever, imo.
    All subjective choices, of course.

    I like Montana the best but it is tough to not give Brady the credit he earned.
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  • ehbacon said:
    Jason P said:
    Is Barry Bonds the GOAT of baseball?
    No, the best but I wouldn't say the greatest. Too much of a tarnished legacy. Same reason BB is the probably the best coach of all time but not the GOAT. He will never be able to accomplish a legacy like Lombardi.

    Brady is the GOAT. Not nearly the best quarterback, but based on accomplishment he is the GOAT.

    I am not a Brady worshipper or a Pats fan... but he has to be in the discussion for 'best' quarterback. His throwing skills alone distinguish him as an all-time elite: he's a great passer (can't run to save his life though- I think he might be slower than Marino was).

    I remember clearly when he took the reins from Drew Bledsoe. At the time I thought it was a little unfair to Drew. What did I know?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138

    Volkswagen .... all time auto diesel cheats. Perfect choice.  SAD!

    GOAT
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    BB is bobby bowden? :confounded:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    poor Browns :bawling:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    edited October 2017
    Lombardi is overrated.  Sid Gilman and Bill Walsh were better.  BB is greatest coach ever, imo.
    All subjective choices, of course.

    I like Montana the best but it is tough to not give Brady the credit he earned.
    Lombardi is overrated? He inherited a losing (1-10) team and then with the same exact players won 5 championships in 7 years. While being the first coach to desegregate an NFL locker room. Then he went to Washington and turned the losing Redskins around in a season as well, and would've been able to build a greater legacy there if he had more time.

    By far the greatest of all time, nobody will ever come close.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,157
    are the niners playing the browns this year?

    49er stadium, mostly cowboys fans. stub hub center 70% broncos fans.
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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
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    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,931
    Colts were sacked 10 times today.  Andrew Luck is going to say his shoulder is still sore every week for the rest of the season.  Pathetic coaching.  Pathetic players. Pathetic ownership.  Pathetic front office.  Extremely lucky to get Peyton and then for him to get injured when he did.
  • Colts were sacked 10 times today.  Andrew Luck is going to say his shoulder is still sore every week for the rest of the season.  Pathetic coaching.  Pathetic players. Pathetic ownership.  Pathetic front office.  Extremely lucky to get Peyton and then for him to get injured when he did.

    They'd be idiots to bring him back this year.

    They need offensive linemen. They need skilled players too.

    They're in a world of hurt.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,253
    edited October 2017
    Oh, he's a great coach no doubt...but in my mind BB is already better.  Five Super Bowls in a league that is much more complex and competitive than any NFL that Lombardi knew.
    Also was D Coordinator on those great Giants teams...winning two Super Bowls
    A d coordinator or head coach for 32 years in the NFL.  Strong coaching tree, including the best college coach now who is part of the top all time college coach conversation.

    You saying that he is the greatest coach ever by far and that nobody will ever be close is your opinion and a good reason why I think he is overrated.  (Have heard others talk about him that way as well)

    (Btw, 2 wins more than the previous year for the Redskins, not like they won a championship or even made the playoffs.)


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  • My Broncos were shut out today by the Chargers...

    There were two shutouts today in the league...
  • Pats D steppin up finally! Looking good.
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  • Pats D steppin up finally! Looking good.

    Very questionable play calling at the goal line. Eesh.

    (Not trying to take away anything from the defensive effort... solid for sure)
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,521
    Oh, he's a great coach no doubt...but in my mind BB is already better.  Five Super Bowls in a league that is much more complex and competitive than any NFL that Lombardi knew.
    Also was D Coordinator on those great Giants teams...winning two Super Bowls
    A d coordinator or head coach for 32 years in the NFL.  Strong coaching tree, including the best college coach now who is part of the top all time college coach conversation.

    You saying that he is the greatest coach ever by far and that nobody will ever be close is your opinion and a good reason why I think he is overrated.  (Have heard others talk about him that way as well)

    (Btw, 2 wins more than the previous year for the Redskins, not like they won a championship or even made the playoffs.)


    * for Belichick for being a convicted cheater.  Hard for me to say on Lombardi because long before my time. In my time you have to give Bill Walsh a long look for totally changing the way offense was played in the NFL. Revolutionized the offensive game in the NFL.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Colts were sacked 10 times today.  Andrew Luck is going to say his shoulder is still sore every week for the rest of the season.  Pathetic coaching.  Pathetic players. Pathetic ownership.  Pathetic front office.  Extremely lucky to get Peyton and then for him to get injured when he did.
    And Malik Hooker tore his MCL and ACL ...
  • pjhawks said:
    Oh, he's a great coach no doubt...but in my mind BB is already better.  Five Super Bowls in a league that is much more complex and competitive than any NFL that Lombardi knew.
    Also was D Coordinator on those great Giants teams...winning two Super Bowls
    A d coordinator or head coach for 32 years in the NFL.  Strong coaching tree, including the best college coach now who is part of the top all time college coach conversation.

    You saying that he is the greatest coach ever by far and that nobody will ever be close is your opinion and a good reason why I think he is overrated.  (Have heard others talk about him that way as well)

    (Btw, 2 wins more than the previous year for the Redskins, not like they won a championship or even made the playoffs.)


    * for Belichick for being a convicted cheater.  Hard for me to say on Lombardi because long before my time. In my time you have to give Bill Walsh a long look for totally changing the way offense was played in the NFL. Revolutionized the offensive game in the NFL.

    The Niners had a good stretch of dominance underneath him.

    Joe Montana's story is a bit like Brady's- both relatively unheralded coming out of college with intangibles that pre draft exercises can't reveal. And both elite QBs that settled into systems perfectly tailored to their abilities.
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