The National Football League

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Question.

The refs handled those balls after every single play during that game.

Yet the refs noticed nothing different?

Why is that?


Maybe because this is one of the stupidest non issues in the history of sports?

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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote: »

Question.

The refs handled those balls after every single play during that game.

Yet the refs noticed nothing different?

Why is that?


Maybe because this is one of the stupidest non issues in the history of sports?

I am not a pats fan. I'm 100% a buffalo bills fan and I could care the fuck less about this. It's a simple rules violation. Deal with it and move the fuck on.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Every single kicker in the NFL alters the football before every single kickoff. Right?

They grab that fucker at each end...
And squeeze the fuck out of it...
So it sits on the tee a certain way...
Right?

I know that sounds silly as fuck...
But they are altering the ball..
So it sits on the tee a certain way..
Therefore giving the kicker an advantage.
Right?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

And actually the kicker is squeezing each end to make the ball more round....Right?

For a bigger "kicking area"

Altering the ball for his advantage.

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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote: »

And actually the kicker is squeezing each end to make the ball more round....Right?

For a bigger "kicking area"

Altering the ball for his advantage.

The argument to that is that they can only do that right before kick offs. They can't squeeze them like that before a field goal.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

I get that.
But you kick it further on kickoff, you reduce the chance of a return.

Anyways....

Tom Brady is the best QB I have seen since Joe Montana.
I hope he goes 25-27 450 yards with 4 tds.

igotid88

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote: »

And actually the kicker is squeezing each end to make the ball more round....Right?

For a bigger "kicking area"

Altering the ball for his advantage.

But both teams do that. So it's not the same. Also when people say doesn't affect the outcome of a game. How do they know? Have they done studies? In baseball if one team's pitcher uses pine tar and the other's doesn't. You can't say it doesn't have at least a little effect.

igotid88

And also a real thorough investigation could uncover more stuff that might have been done in the past.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Somebody 1st investigate the refs.
How did they not see a difference during the course of the game?

Or from what I have read...
The 1st half anyways.

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I've done extensive studies. The results are still the same. Out of the 83,872 different possibilities that could have happened with psi's ranging from 6.2 to 16.4, the patriots won all of them. The Colts defense sucked.

josevolution

Please NFL don't suspend Belicheat next week of mandatory press conferences should be epic he hates the press i can't wait for him to just keep responding the same way all week long ......

The Juggler

igotid88 wrote: »

But Troy's right. That's why I said BB will get a year suspension.

aikman is ridiculous.

with the bounties, the nfl had to be concerned about player safety so they came down hard on the saints. deflating footballs in a 45-7 blowout? haha. come on. like a couple said earlier, i don't see how they can find any concrete evidence here of who did what and when. so the investigation will probably be inconclusive but they will tighten up the ridiculous rule of letting each team handle their own balls.

BALLS.

The Juggler

Jason P wrote: »

I wonder if his handlers coached him up to bring ISIS into the picture to make it seem so silly that we are arguing over a deflated ball or if he was just free styling?

Technically for his comparison to hold up, we all shouldn't give two shits about the game he is playing in a few weeks from now and he would be playing for free and he certainly wouldn't be wrapping up a press conference right now because no one would give a shit or know who Tom Brady even is.

do you think they are the same handlers who handle his balls?

Amongst the Ani

I think its time to move on. The NFL cannot do anything until after the SB anyways. McCann on SI (hes a sport lawyer for those who dont know him) laid out what could happen and when. Goodell can really only hand out a small fine by himself for this per the CBA. If he wants to do more it requires a vote by the executive committee. If they go that route the Pats have to be given adequate time to build a defense. With the SB next week they have a valid reason they need until afterwards to do it. So point being we can argue this all next week and it will be just us arguing it. Im sure Goodell will come out later and say they will do a full investigation after the SB and that will be it for now.

On a new note I''m starting to dig the 49ers hires. Mangini should be a really good DC and to get
Tarver and Sparano as position coaches is a big win. Sparano sucked as a HC but as a TE coach he is massively over qualified and should be great. If they are waiting for Chud's contract to end next week (Indy will not let him interview until it expires as they want to keep him) to sign him as OC I will partially forgive them for canning Harbs.

igotid88

The Juggler wrote: »

igotid88 wrote: »

But Troy's right. That's why I said BB will get a year suspension.

aikman is ridiculous.

with the bounties, the nfl had to be concerned about player safety so they came down hard on the saints. deflating footballs in a 45-7 blowout? haha. come on. like a couple said earlier, i don't see how they can find any concrete evidence here of who did what and when. so the investigation will probably be inconclusive but they will tighten up the ridiculous rule of letting each team handle their own balls.

BALLS.

But it's also not their first offense.

The Juggler

igotid88 wrote: »

The Juggler wrote: »

igotid88 wrote: »

But Troy's right. That's why I said BB will get a year suspension.

aikman is ridiculous.

with the bounties, the nfl had to be concerned about player safety so they came down hard on the saints. deflating footballs in a 45-7 blowout? haha. come on. like a couple said earlier, i don't see how they can find any concrete evidence here of who did what and when. so the investigation will probably be inconclusive but they will tighten up the ridiculous rule of letting each team handle their own balls.

BALLS.

But it's also not their first offense.

i know....but i just don't see how they can prove who did it and who was responsible. yada yada. and again--bounties were severely penalized because of player safety. this is not nearly as serious in my mind (i also though the bounty penalties were too harsh too, as that kind of stuff has been going on since football was invented--but i understood why the nfl took that stance)

CROJAM95

I'd bet the house on Seattle if the NFL doesn't punish NE until after the Super Bowl

The Refs will make sure NE loses if it comes down to it being a close game. They can't let NE carry that trophy off in another close game..... Pats better be that much better than Seattle to pull this off

Seattle 27
New England 20

g under p

igotid88 wrote: »

So the NFL hasn't interviewed Tom yet?

That's the biggest thing I took from

CROJAM95 wrote: »

I'd bet the house on Seattle if the NFL doesn't punish NE until after the Super Bowl

The Refs will make sure NE loses if it comes down to it being a close game. They can't let NE carry that trophy off in another close game..... Pats better be that much better than Seattle to pull this off

Seattle 27
New England 20

Well if you say if the game is close the refs will make sure the Patriots will lose the SB game.

Isn't THAT punishment enough? Just saying.....

Peace

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CROJAM95 wrote: »

I'd bet the house on Seattle if the NFL doesn't punish NE until after the Super Bowl

The Refs will make sure NE loses if it comes down to it being a close game. They can't let NE carry that trophy off in another close game..... Pats better be that much better than Seattle to pull this off

Seattle 27
New England 20

I doubt I highly doubt that. Those refs reputations are at stake and they aren't going to make obvious bogus calls just to keep NE from winning.

Poncier

igotid88 wrote: »

So the NFL hasn't interviewed Tom yet?

And we haven't heard anything from the league yet. Only reports from sources...what is taking the NFL so long on this?

If Walt Anderson properly tested the balls pregame with a gauge and then they were retested at half and found to be light, the league should make that known and say an investigation is ongoing as to who deflated the balls. The longer the league stays silent the more I'm inclined to believe Anderson just gave the balls a quick once over and passed them without using a gauge pregame, they could have already been under the 12.5 psi and now if the league admits that they look like schmucks.