George Lucas Blames 'Star Wars' Critics for Killing Series

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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    That sounds like something George would make up after the fact as an excuse. Just like he said he always intended to have Luke and Leia be twins, but in the second movie they were playing tonsil hockey.
    He said that when the Phantom Menace was released.. Look at the acting in the old Flash Gordan serials, which Star Wars is inspired from.


    It's not an excuse. Natalie Portman didn't just decide to act badly. It was a conscious artistic decision.

    Then why not use old shitty special effects too? Yeah, he may have said it when Phantom Menace was released, because he had seen the finished result. I can't find anything on the internet to support this claim, just quotes from George and other actors that contradict it. And the fact that some people actually manage to turn in some decent performances over the course of the trilogy raises an eyebrow. Did they suck at bad acting or something? I realize the performances aren't intended to be completely serious, but some performances are just flat out awkward. To the point that it is distracting. I can't imagine a world where that would be intentional. I think it has more to do with the fact that George was not concerned at all with acting, and all the green screens and unorthodox methods used probably had an effect on the performances.
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399

    :lol: "Starving African children in Cambodia"
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Then why not use old shitty special effects too? Yeah, he may have said it when Phantom Menace was released, because he had seen the finished result. I can't find anything on the internet to support this claim, just quotes from George and other actors that contradict it. And the fact that some people actually manage to turn in some decent performances over the course of the trilogy raises an eyebrow. Did they suck at bad acting or something? I realize the performances aren't intended to be completely serious, but some performances are just flat out awkward. To the point that it is distracting. I can't imagine a world where that would be intentional. I think it has more to do with the fact that George was not concerned at all with acting, and all the green screens and unorthodox methods used probably had an effect on the performances.

    this

    i can't find the quotes, but i know i've read or seen carrie fisher talk about lucas' approach toward acting...which is basically non existent
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    norm wrote:
    Then why not use old shitty special effects too? Yeah, he may have said it when Phantom Menace was released, because he had seen the finished result. I can't find anything on the internet to support this claim, just quotes from George and other actors that contradict it. And the fact that some people actually manage to turn in some decent performances over the course of the trilogy raises an eyebrow. Did they suck at bad acting or something? I realize the performances aren't intended to be completely serious, but some performances are just flat out awkward. To the point that it is distracting. I can't imagine a world where that would be intentional. I think it has more to do with the fact that George was not concerned at all with acting, and all the green screens and unorthodox methods used probably had an effect on the performances.

    this

    i can't find the quotes, but i know i've read or seen carrie fisher talk about lucas' approach toward acting...which is basically non existent
    Surprised..

    I thought American Graffiti was amazing...
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    norm wrote:
    Then why not use old shitty special effects too? Yeah, he may have said it when Phantom Menace was released, because he had seen the finished result. I can't find anything on the internet to support this claim, just quotes from George and other actors that contradict it. And the fact that some people actually manage to turn in some decent performances over the course of the trilogy raises an eyebrow. Did they suck at bad acting or something? I realize the performances aren't intended to be completely serious, but some performances are just flat out awkward. To the point that it is distracting. I can't imagine a world where that would be intentional. I think it has more to do with the fact that George was not concerned at all with acting, and all the green screens and unorthodox methods used probably had an effect on the performances.

    this

    i can't find the quotes, but i know i've read or seen carrie fisher talk about lucas' approach toward acting...which is basically non existent
    Surprised..

    I thought American Graffiti was amazing...

    it was and is...george was probably a little more involved in the acting aspects in that one since there was less special effects to worry about...also, look at the actors in that movie...probably didn't need that much directing :)
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    That sounds like something George would make up after the fact as an excuse. Just like he said he always intended to have Luke and Leia be twins, but in the second movie they were playing tonsil hockey.
    He said that when the Phantom Menace was released.. Look at the acting in the old Flash Gordan serials, which Star Wars is inspired from.


    It's not an excuse. Natalie Portman didn't just decide to act badly. It was a conscious artistic decision.

    Then why not use old shitty special effects too? Yeah, he may have said it when Phantom Menace was released, because he had seen the finished result. I can't find anything on the internet to support this claim, just quotes from George and other actors that contradict it. And the fact that some people actually manage to turn in some decent performances over the course of the trilogy raises an eyebrow. Did they suck at bad acting or something? I realize the performances aren't intended to be completely serious, but some performances are just flat out awkward. To the point that it is distracting. I can't imagine a world where that would be intentional. I think it has more to do with the fact that George was not concerned at all with acting, and all the green screens and unorthodox methods used probably had an effect on the performances.


    George's quote..

    "It's not deliberately camp. I made the film in a 1930s style. It's based on a Saturday matinee serial from the 1930s, so the acting style is very 30s, very theatrical, very old-fashioned. Method acting came in in the 1950s and is very predominant today. I prefer to use the old style. People take it different ways, depending on their sophistication."
  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399


    George's quote..

    "It's not deliberately camp. I made the film in a 1930s style. It's based on a Saturday matinee serial from the 1930s, so the acting style is very 30s, very theatrical, very old-fashioned. Method acting came in in the 1950s and is very predominant today. I prefer to use the old style. People take it different ways, depending on their sophistication."

    That doesn't really explain Natalie Portman's wooden performance though. She wasn't "very theatrical". And there are still many quotes that contradict it.

    Just seems like more George bullshit. Somebody turns in a shitty performance, or the director did a shitty job directing them, and it's the audiences fault for not being sophisticated enough. :roll:
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    norm wrote:
    What a tool...face it George, you went way overboard with the computer shit and forgot about assembling any sort of decent script...as was said, you should not have directed them...and don't get me started on the fuckups, er sorry, improvements you made to the original 3
    Agreed. He is just obsessed, it's like nothing else exists to him except to keep tinkering with this series.

    He needs to accept the brilliance he had in creating this story, and just let it be. The constant 'fine-tuning' is destroying it.
  • EZ1221C
    EZ1221C Posts: 2,645
    Prequel trilogy was awful. End of story. I thought the second one was easily the worst of the entire series, although Hayden does have his laughable "struggle face" moments, which almost make it watchable. Outside of that, Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones were downright bad. Poor acting, awful awful script and pretty boring to watch. Revenge of the Sith almost makes up for it, but Hayden being a whiny brat the whole movie almost ruins it. The cheesiest line ever was the "you underestimate my power" from the final fight between Anakin and Obi Wan. Ewan McGregor was good in the latter two of the prequel and almost redeems it from the hell that they are.
    PLAY THE SOUTH
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Jason P wrote:
    I miss the Ewok victory dance song at the end of Jedi. That song fucking ruled!
    :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :clap::clap::clap:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    tybird wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I miss the Ewok victory dance song at the end of Jedi. That song fucking ruled!
    :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :clap::clap::clap:

    What about the original song from Jabba's Palace? Was replacing that really necessary either?

    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • SxDx1982
    SxDx1982 Posts: 124
    The characters and the stories behind them were better in the original series. I felt like I was watching scenes from a computer game when I saw the prequels. I thought the characters were very one dimensional.
    Of course I love them because I love everything Star Wars, but I like eps 4, 5 and 6 better. I mean, who doesn't? :ugeek:
    I'm still out here waiting
    Watching reruns of my life
  • tybird wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I miss the Ewok victory dance song at the end of Jedi. That song fucking ruled!
    :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :clap::clap::clap:

    What about the original song from Jabba's Palace? Was replacing that really necessary either?

    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg
    yeah... the joe cocker alien is the WORST

    THE WORST THING ADDED TO ORIGINAL 3

    ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg

    wait...this is real? i thought this was another great photoshop job by satansfuton...lucas is a fuckhead
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    norm wrote:
    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg

    wait...this is real? i thought this was another great photoshop job by satansfuton...lucas is a fuckhead
    I miss the funky original. :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0LD-QAzg0
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    norm wrote:
    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg

    wait...this is real? i thought this was another great photoshop job by satansfuton...lucas is a fuckhead
    I miss the funky original. :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0LD-QAzg0
  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    norm wrote:
    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg

    wait...this is real? i thought this was another great photoshop job by satansfuton...lucas is a fuckhead
    I miss the funky original. :(

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV0LD-QAzg0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogbtlJs1rI
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • chiquimonkey
    chiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    norm wrote:
    Was this fucking guy necessary?
    joh_yowza.jpg

    wait...this is real? i thought this was another great photoshop job by satansfuton...lucas is a fuckhead
    I thought that was fake too :(