George Lucas Blames 'Star Wars' Critics for Killing Series

JonnyPistachio

George Lucas Blames 'Star Wars' Critics for Killing Series

http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniverse/ ... y/feature/

Well, George, did you consider that maybe the plots and characters were as interesting as a hot pile of steamy poo? haha, just kidding..I think some of the newer films had their moments. Nowhere near as good as the three original ones, but if you're going to take that chance, you HAVE to assume that people will compare the two.

I wonder what i'd think the the newest three films if I hadnt seen the originals first.
Anyone here watch the recent three first? Or only the last three?

RedMosquito22

I blame 45 year old basement dwellers who think that the OT was perfect.

MD97728

well - i never saw the original when it came out and did not see a full length star wars movie until episode 3 came out and that is without question my favorite of the series and i also thinks it's the best one. i have now seen them all and again it's only because of how much i love episode 3. as the mother of 3 boys you would think i would have seen the movies sooner but my youngest son is the only one who is a fan. we even watch the clone wars cartoons on friday nights together.

MayDay10

People were way too fickle with these movies. I am a Star Wars fan, and I thought the new ones were just fine... even really good. People wanted to pick apart everything in the movies and tear it down. It ended up being a pack-type mentality and the cool thing to hate the movies.

You can take the originals and pick them apart for holes and cheesiness and whatnot too.

Drowned Out

:roll:
aaaaaawwwww, are the internet geeks pickin on you Georgie?
That was pathetic. Like we should feel sorry for you because your art is being critiqued. It happens to every single artist in existence.
Maybe he's hypersensitive to being called out on pandering to five year olds in order to sell more toys....which makes it pretty ironic for him to say he needs to maintain his artistic integrity in these movies.
Still, I think the people who loathe the new ones are a minority. Sure, most people I know DO think jar jar sucks etc...but they'd still go see new movies. I know I would. I never expected the prequels to be as good as the originals, and still enjoyed the new ones. Just like pretty much everyone else. But hey, if you can't repeat your masterpiece, you might as well pack it in, right? weak.

RedMosquito22

They are all cheesy B-Movies that I love.

honestly I wish they would redo the movies in the Clone Wars animation. Don't change anything keep all of the original dialogue and animate it.

LikeAnOcean

Most people don't even realize the changes to the original.


The prequels just have too many awkward moments. Lucas should have had somebody else direct them. They should have been much darker films. He made them into kiddie movies. I would have rather seen them shot on old film, minus the cgi, to give them the atmosphere the original trilogy had. Lucas is just too bent up on technology. A lot of the magic and mystery of the series was lost.

sven82

I like Episode 3 the most because of General Grievance eh Grievous...

Monster Rain

I thought the 3rd film in the new trilogy was good, but the other 2 weren't--especially the first one. The first one was basically a movie for kids. Jar Jar Binks was created to make 5-year olds laugh and sell some toys. If George Lucas honestly doesn't understand why adults would hate that character, then he's an idiot. If he did understand why people hated that character and still force-fed him into the next 2 movies so he could sell more toys, then he's got nobody to blame but himself for the reaction they received.

pjsteelerfan

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Most people don't even realize the changes to the original.


The prequels just have too many awkward moments. Lucas should have had somebody else direct them. They should have been much darker films. He made them into kiddie movies. I would have rather seen them shot on old film, minus the cgi, to give them the atmosphere the original trilogy had. Lucas is just too bent up on technology. A lot of the magic and mystery of the series was lost.

This, part of what helped the originals is he did not direct them. Same with the Indy movies, he did the story and let Spielberg do the rest.

Jason P

Hey yo, Mesa think dat Lucus be-a too sensitiven'! Whata yousa tink???

Abe Froman

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Most people don't even realize the changes to the original.


The prequels just have too many awkward moments. Lucas should have had somebody else direct them. They should have been much darker films. He made them into kiddie movies. I would have rather seen them shot on old film, minus the cgi, to give them the atmosphere the original trilogy had. Lucas is just too bent up on technology. A lot of the magic and mystery of the series was lost.

+1
You nailed it. Plus Greedo shooting first was one of the absolute worst decisions in movie history. (I don't think I even need to explain how much Jar Jar ruined the franchise)

JonnyPistachio

of the new ones, I really wanted to enjoy the first one, but I think it fell short because they had a great opportunity to make a good villian - the Darth Maul guy with two sided light saber - but he had a very tiny part. One great swordfight at the end, but that was it. The Grvious guy was awesome, but also very short lived. Just a lack of development in too many characters.

Then I liked the 2nd one a bit better, and the third and final one was the best of the recent three, imo.
But the character that played young Darth Vader was just so whiny and unlikable. I get that you're not supposed to like him, but I just feel it could've been acted better.

Ewan McGregor on the other hand was fantastic.

The worst scene in all of them was (i think part 2, or was it 3?) when C3PO and R2D2 went through that assembly line factory. that was god-awful.

Jason P

I miss the Ewok victory dance song at the end of Jedi. That song fucking ruled!

81

LikeAnOcean wrote:

minus the cgi

that is the problem with a lot of movies

JonnyPistachio

pjsteelerfan wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Most people don't even realize the changes to the original.


The prequels just have too many awkward moments. Lucas should have had somebody else direct them. They should have been much darker films. He made them into kiddie movies. I would have rather seen them shot on old film, minus the cgi, to give them the atmosphere the original trilogy had. Lucas is just too bent up on technology. A lot of the magic and mystery of the series was lost.

This, part of what helped the originals is he did not direct them. Same with the Indy movies, he did the story and let Spielberg do the rest.

Dont even get me started on the last Indy movie. What a travesty. Lost all respect for Spielberg..

Jason P wrote:

Hey yo, Mesa think dat Lucus be-a too sensitiven'! Whata yousa tink???

JonnyPistachio

Jason P wrote:

I miss the Ewok victory dance song at the end of Jedi. That song fucking ruled!

Yub Yub!

DewieCox

I've never seen any of them aside from bits on cable. What order should I watch them?

I'm not a big fan like some of you so I could be way off, but you guys think he coulda realistically done the newer ones with no cgi? I think that woulda been a big mistake.

LikeAnOcean

Abe Froman wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Most people don't even realize the changes to the original.


The prequels just have too many awkward moments. Lucas should have had somebody else direct them. They should have been much darker films. He made them into kiddie movies. I would have rather seen them shot on old film, minus the cgi, to give them the atmosphere the original trilogy had. Lucas is just too bent up on technology. A lot of the magic and mystery of the series was lost.

+1
You nailed it. Plus Greedo shooting first was one of the absolute worst decisions in movie history. (I don't think I even need to explain how much Jar Jar ruined the franchise)

Also, I don't think the story in the prequels was strong enough to be stretched out over three films. Revenge of the Sith has the only strong story and even that had it's dragging moments.

It should have been one, three hour movie about the life of Anaken Skywalker. The Phantom Menace seemed so pointless to the series. They didn't even keep Darth Maul! They should have kept Darth Maul to be overthrown in Episode III.

curly

The original 3 movies are...Ten VS and Vitalogy...

the newer 3 movies are...Riot Act...Avacado, and Backspacer...

what do you think???

Monster Rain

I disagree. I think Riot Act, Avacado, and Backspacer all have mostly good tracks and none that are terrible. Aside from the 3rd movie in the new trilogy, those movies are mostly bad with just a little bit of good stuff mixed in.

I prefer this:

The original 3 are Ten, vs, and Vitalogy. The newer 3 are Van Halen III, Van Halen III, and whatever the new Van Halen album is called.

curly wrote:

The original 3 movies are...Ten VS and Vitalogy...

the newer 3 movies are...Riot Act...Avacado, and Backspacer...

what do you think???

F5AgainstOne

I get that Lucas wants to have the films HIS way, but I think when you present art to the world (whatever it is)
and you gain fans of that art, it is not fair to alter it . I think he should absolutely put his ultimate vision out in the world, but the original was what lined his pockets to be in this position in the first place.
There are many reasons why people love the originals.
I personally love the imagery that he was able to create based on his limited budget and limited technology.

That, to me, is where the true artwork is. He made an epic space adventure with
stop motion models
puppetry
creative camera angles
real actors inside of costumes (i use the term "actors" loosely).
Real sand-dunes
real snow drifts
hand painted back drops.
creative sound effects

Removing or masking all of this with tons of CGI on the special editions of the orignal series steals the soul of the original art.
Again, his prerogative, but he should still make the originals available (in tact), not necessarily for the story's sake, but for those of us who appreciate the ingenuity and artistic innovation that went into it. Afterall, it was quite a feat back in 1976/1977.

dcfaithful

81 wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

minus the cgi

that is the problem with a lot of movies

Dude exactly. Way too many movies now a days are simply cgi porn with the weakest plots and laughable acting. It's getting old.

Drowned Out

dcfaithful wrote:

81 wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

minus the cgi

that is the problem with a lot of movies

Dude exactly. Way too many movies now a days are simply cgi porn with the weakest plots and laughable acting. It's getting old.

yup, and some are so overdone its almost impossible to tell what you're lookin at. The Transformer movies are all just a big blur of shit flying thru the air. In the action sequences, the characters are almost unrecognizable there is so much going on at once.

pjsteelerfan

Monster Rain wrote:

I disagree. I think Riot Act, Avacado, and Backspacer all have mostly good tracks and none that are terrible. Aside from the 3rd movie in the new trilogy, those movies are mostly bad with just a little bit of good stuff mixed in.

I prefer this:

The original 3 are Ten, vs, and Vitalogy. The newer 3 are Van Halen III, Van Halen III, and whatever the new Van Halen album is called.

curly wrote:

The original 3 movies are...Ten VS and Vitalogy...

the newer 3 movies are...Riot Act...Avacado, and Backspacer...

what do you think???

curly

I love pj's latest cd's...

i also really really like the latest Star Wars...

But,,,like with PJ....majority of the world only liked their initial 3 lp's...

that's why they sold so many more of the initial cd's...

people just dont like change and what the pj to re create the cd ten over and over for the next 30 years and its not going to happen...

just like you can't re-create the original movies...

I've only seen the new 3 star wars each one time, when they came out...

then my son and i watched them...Actually all 6 in one weekend a few months ago..

i have to admit...the most recent...when anakin turns into Darth Vader...

it was pretty fuckin cool....they were way better than i was expecting them to be...

just like pj continues to amaze me with their music...

i thought for sure they'd "run out" so to speak of creativity but...Pj continues to put out great music

norm

What a tool...face it George, you went way overboard with the computer shit and forgot about assembling any sort of decent script...as was said, you should not have directed them...and don't get me started on the fuckups, er sorry, improvements you made to the original 3

Drowned Out

curly wrote:

i have to admit...the most recent...when anakin turns into Darth Vader...

ya, until he did the cheesiest of cheesy movie moments - looking skyward and yelling "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
Darth Vader doing the NOOOOOOO thing? say it ain't so

Kilgore_Trout

No one should be defending any of this nonsense... they. were. TERRIBLE.

And George is 100% responsible... Ok and maybe whoever the casting director was... Hayden and Natalie are both shitty decisions IMO... the fact that they had a shitty script and nothing to play off of but green screen certainly didn't help the fact that their acting is "meh"

And George's newest effort looks like more pandering. Why do you need techno beats in a trailer for a film about the Tuskegee Airmen? Trying to get that young black audience? He was making himself out to be some civil rights hero in the interview I saw with him. :roll:

Digital Twilight

If you haven't then you NEED to watch these reviews. Hilarious but also very informative.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star ... om-menace/

uninnocent-

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Dont even get me started on the last Indy movie. What a travesty. Lost all respect for Spielberg..

At least he accepted blame for the refrigerator scene.

“Blame me,” Spielberg said. “Don't blame George. That was my silly idea. People stopped saying ‘jump the shark.’ They now say, ‘nuked the fridge.’ I'm proud of that. I'm glad I was able to bring that into popular culture."

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/article/s ... idea-32203