Obama, Romney, Santorum all same on GAY MARRIAGE

fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
edited January 2012 in A Moving Train
I love to see the liberal media spin this as Santorum to be the rigid ideaologue that will take away ones birth control! Its SOOOO obvious to see the liberal media agenda! If they are seeking ways to seperate the candidates.....do it with true stances and issues.....for the right reasons! UNREAL!
They expose themselves and anyone with any brains should see the agenda and make adjustments accordingly!
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I enjoyed santorums response re gay marriage "so, if everyone has a right to marry whoever they want, does that mean you should be able to marry a few people at the same time...
    Ha
  • that arguement makes as much sense as most three year olds when they're trying to make a point.
    I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Just let gays marry. Christ.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Just let gays marry. Christ.
    Well said. :thumbup:
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Newch91 wrote:
    Just let gays marry. Christ.
    Well said. :thumbup:


    Thank you, I mean, problem solved right? End of debate.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    Newch91 wrote:
    Just let gays marry. Christ.
    Well said. :thumbup:


    Thank you, I mean, problem solved right? End of debate.

    Well said. Rational, easy, done.
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  • exactly and anyone who doesn't want to be involved doesn't have to be
    I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
  • liberal media bias? are u joking? none of the 3 u mentioned are real progressives but santorum especially stands out as he oftens speaks out as a religious nutjob homophobe, which to be honest, are a disgusting sort of species that i cannot tolerate!
  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    I don't even know why the president would be involved in gay marriage. Just let the states decide.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    think I'll go to the polls this election and vote...I'll try and find someone that has these ideas in mind..

    1) no gay marriage
    2) increase military spending
    3) will not add new tax's to an already over-taxed country
    4) knows how to ballance a budget...or even a check book
    5) will keep God in our country/world
    6) has a birth cert..... :lol:
    7) has the balls to run this country

    now really is that to much ask :lol:

    Godfather.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    bgivens33 wrote:
    I don't even know why the president would be involved in gay marriage. Just let the states decide.

    why is marriage a leagal institution?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    bgivens33 wrote:
    I don't even know why the president would be involved in gay marriage. Just let the states decide.

    why is marriage a leagal institution?
    Good question. Probable answer: "Money".

    Why is marriage an institution at all? I'll ask my wife. She knows more about that than I do and she's the boss...
    hmmm, maybe marriage is an occupational arrangement? :lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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  • Godfather. wrote:
    think I'll go to the polls this election and vote...I'll try and find someone that has these ideas in mind..

    1) no gay marriage
    2) increase military spending
    3) will not add new tax's to an already over-taxed country
    4) knows how to ballance a budget...or even a check book
    5) will keep God in our country/world
    6) has a birth cert..... :lol:
    7) has the balls to run this country

    now really is that to much ask :lol:

    Godfather.

    "now really is that to much ask?" - not if you live in Iran or Syria.

    as far as Santorum, he said that (paraphrasing) gay sex is tantamount to incest and beastiality... so, no... that isn't really the same position as Obama.

    Obama has been supportive of gay rights but unexplicably hasn't supported gay marriage (yet). I am fairly confident that is because he's trying to get a second term, but I'm not sure.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...
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  • For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    I think it has something to do with the "fabric" of society or maybe because it also means you can marry your dog?

    :?
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    it has been legal in Mass for a few years now. My taxes are the same. My marriage was not devalued. My Quality of life was maintained.

    I think there may have been a slight increase on the supply/demand of Marriage Officiants. ;)


    Long story short: Let whoever marry whomever.
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  • For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    This is VITAL to understand! Those who are against gay marriage are mainly not against two men or two women doing their thing. We believe in your freedom to do what you want! You can also unionize and recieve all the tax breaks that married couples also do! The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution! Those who support gay marriage are in the minority by far! So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80! The definition of bigotry is not listening to the other side and only standing firm on your own. Gays and those who support gay marriage are being bigots first and foremost because they wont accept the civil union label! So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority! The disease of progressivism will slowly try to persuade society to agree with gay marriage, hence, the bigotry is developed there.....by hijacking marriage and forcing those who do not believe in it ....to accept it! Thats what you and most people who support gays dont understand!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430
    For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    This is VITAL to understand! Those who are against gay marriage are mainly not against two men or two women doing their thing. We believe in your freedom to do what you want! You can also unionize and recieve all the tax breaks that married couples also do! The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution! Those who support gay marriage are in the minority by far! So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80! The definition of bigotry is not listening to the other side and only standing firm on your own. Gays and those who support gay marriage are being bigots first and foremost because they wont accept the civil union label! So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority! The disease of progressivism will slowly try to persuade society to agree with gay marriage, hence, the bigotry is developed there.....by hijacking marriage and forcing those who do not believe in it ....to accept it! Thats what you and most people who support gays dont understand!
    The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution!
    Who's definition of marriage would that be? That makes no sense.

    So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority!
    No one is "forcing" their ideology on anyone. Sorry, but that statement sound paranoid. By the way, "major majority" is redundant.

    So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80!
    How is letting gays marry hijacking any one? And since when in America can the minority not have the same rights as the majority?

    The disease of progressivism (sic)
    A useless inflammatory remark that serves no purpose but to offend.
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  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    This is VITAL to understand! Those who are against gay marriage are mainly not against two men or two women doing their thing. We believe in your freedom to do what you want! You can also unionize and recieve all the tax breaks that married couples also do! The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution! Those who support gay marriage are in the minority by far! So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80! The definition of bigotry is not listening to the other side and only standing firm on your own. Gays and those who support gay marriage are being bigots first and foremost because they wont accept the civil union label! So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority! The disease of progressivism will slowly try to persuade society to agree with gay marriage, hence, the bigotry is developed there.....by hijacking marriage and forcing those who do not believe in it ....to accept it! Thats what you and most people who support gays dont understand!
    This is the same type of thoughtless "equality" that was the jim crow laws. a "civil union" is a separate but equal term for marriage. it contains the same benefits as far as the law is concerned but forever dehumanizes people who must utilize it. it says to gays that you can still take the bus to the same destination - but you must sit in the back.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    This is VITAL to understand! Those who are against gay marriage are mainly not against two men or two women doing their thing. We believe in your freedom to do what you want! You can also unionize and recieve all the tax breaks that married couples also do! The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution! Those who support gay marriage are in the minority by far! So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80! The definition of bigotry is not listening to the other side and only standing firm on your own. Gays and those who support gay marriage are being bigots first and foremost because they wont accept the civil union label! So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority! The disease of progressivism will slowly try to persuade society to agree with gay marriage, hence, the bigotry is developed there.....by hijacking marriage and forcing those who do not believe in it ....to accept it! Thats what you and most people who support gays dont understand!
    This is the same type of thoughtless "equality" that was the jim crow laws. a "civil union" is a separate but equal term for marriage. it contains the same benefits as far as the law is concerned but forever dehumanizes people who must utilize it. it says to gays that you can still take the bus to the same destination - but you must sit in the back.

    Damn, well said.
  • brianlux wrote:
    For those against gay marriage, please answer this question.

    How does gay marriage have any negative effect whatsoever on your life? I'm in Canada, and the only effect I see is loving couples get to get married, the world hasn't ended, and there hasn't been a total degradation of society as a whole...

    This is VITAL to understand! Those who are against gay marriage are mainly not against two men or two women doing their thing. We believe in your freedom to do what you want! You can also unionize and recieve all the tax breaks that married couples also do! The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution! Those who support gay marriage are in the minority by far! So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80! The definition of bigotry is not listening to the other side and only standing firm on your own. Gays and those who support gay marriage are being bigots first and foremost because they wont accept the civil union label! So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority! The disease of progressivism will slowly try to persuade society to agree with gay marriage, hence, the bigotry is developed there.....by hijacking marriage and forcing those who do not believe in it ....to accept it! Thats what you and most people who support gays dont understand!
    The definition of marriage is an institution between a one man and a one woman! Its healthy for society to preserve that instititution!
    Who's definition of marriage would that be? That makes no sense.

    So they are forcing their ideology on the major majority!
    No one is "forcing" their ideology on anyone. Sorry, but that statement sound paranoid. By the way, "major majority" is redundant.

    So you cannot have %20 of society HIJACK the other %80!
    How is letting gays marry hijacking any one? And since when in America can the minority not have the same rights as the majority?

    The disease of progressivism (sic)
    A useless inflammatory remark that serves no purpose but to offend.

    ARE YOU KIDDIN ME? GO To the dictionary and lookup marriage! The definition is quite clear! Its an institution between a man and a woman! If you dont understand that, then you wont understand anything else that comes along with that! Dont be such a bigot! You are not respecting the institution or the meaning of marriage! So you will never acknowledge it! If you understood that, then you would see the truth!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • marriage is an institution between a man and a vegetable.

    I can say that all day and believe it I suppose, but if someone were to ask "why only a vegetable" I would probably put some critical thinking into motion, rather than repeat it ad nauseam with exclamation points for effect.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293

    ARE YOU KIDDIN ME? GO To the dictionary and lookup marriage! The definition is quite clear! Its an institution between a man and a woman! If you dont understand that, then you wont understand anything else that comes along with that! Dont be such a bigot! You are not respecting the institution or the meaning of marriage! So you will never acknowledge it! If you understood that, then you would see the truth!


    Here is the definition FROM: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage

    a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075

    ARE YOU KIDDIN ME? GO To the dictionary and lookup marriage! The definition is quite clear! Its an institution between a man and a woman! If you dont understand that, then you wont understand anything else that comes along with that! Dont be such a bigot! You are not respecting the institution or the meaning of marriage! So you will never acknowledge it! If you understood that, then you would see the truth!

    The definition of the word gay has changed in the last 100 years. Seems fitting that the definition of marriage did as well.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,897
    Godfather. wrote:
    think I'll go to the polls this election and vote...I'll try and find someone that has these ideas in mind..


    2) increase military spending
    3) will not add new tax's to an already over-taxed country
    4) knows how to ballance a budget...or even a check book

    This is hilarious. Would love to see how this would work.
  • jethrojam420jethrojam420 Foxborough MA Posts: 1,075
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    think I'll go to the polls this election and vote...I'll try and find someone that has these ideas in mind..


    2) increase military spending
    3) will not add new tax's to an already over-taxed country
    4) knows how to ballance a budget...or even a check book

    This is hilarious. Would love to see how this would work.
    agreed ;)

    also...
    Which country is the overtaxed one? and how are we going to tax them?



    Here is a look at the Total Tax Revenue by country, as a percentage of Gross Domestic Product:
    Country Tax %
    Austrailia 30.8
    Austria 42.3
    Canada 33.3
    Finland 43.0
    France 43.5
    Germany 36.2
    Italy 43.5
    Japan 28.3
    Korea 26.5
    Netherlands 37.5
    Norway 43.6
    Sweden 48.3
    Switzerland 28.9
    United States 28.3


    Source: OECD Tax Database
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,430

    ARE YOU KIDDIN ME? GO To the dictionary and lookup marriage! The definition is quite clear! Its an institution between a man and a woman! If you dont understand that, then you wont understand anything else that comes along with that! Dont be such a bigot! You are not respecting the institution or the meaning of marriage! So you will never acknowledge it! If you understood that, then you would see the truth!

    No, actually I'm not kidding you.

    Which dictionary? Do you know that the meaning of many words change over time?

    I'm a bigot? Congratulations on being the first person in my 60 years of living to call me a bigot. Somebody had to do it. Why? Beats me.

    Truth? Haven't we been over that before?

    Hey, thanks anyway for the lecture. It was, um, interesting.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I love to see the liberal media spin this as Santorum to be the rigid ideaologue that will take away ones birth control! Its SOOOO obvious to see the liberal media agenda! If they are seeking ways to seperate the candidates.....do it with true stances and issues.....for the right reasons! UNREAL!
    They expose themselves and anyone with any brains should see the agenda and make adjustments accordingly!
    I thought the OP's thread was about politics and the media

    not whether gay marriage should be legal... this has been so discussed already

    I was hoping to learn something more about all the candidates
    and what peoples views here were on them and the media.

    Oh well ...
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