The War on Drugs

big mick

Godfather. wrote:

mh210105 wrote:

your move now wrote:

but isn't that really the overall point, that use/addiction/abuse should be treated as medical not criminal

Exactly! Treat addiction as an illness/recovery and the criminal aspect with court, continuing effective treatment inside prisons or with effective drug correction orders in community settings.

guess who runs the inside of the prisons..there is plenty of dope in prison.

Godfather.

I'm not stoopid! But if you're going to lock someone up, there should be replacement therapies available and help them find a way out! So what you're saying is let people follow the course of their addiction with no consequence, running a mock doing what they choose? Get a grip!

whgarrett

For me the real problem with the war on drugs is the marijuana. I think it should be legalized. I do not see it being any more destructive than alcohol. It is still a classified schedule I drug along with heroin and LSD!! It is rated higher than cocaine. That's crazy. However, I do not think cocaine, meth, heroin, or any other strong opiate should be legal. I believe we should be treating these drug dealers as terrorists. They are destroying countless lives and families and costing the country billions. For the casual user that doesn't have a drug problem it shouldn't be a big deal to do it at home, safely without the fear of getting caught. I mean if you don't have a problem and can handle your drugs then why do you get caught? You needed it so bad that you had to go to a shady place to buy it and were pulled over? You couldn't wait to smoke/shoot/snort it somewhere safe and had to risk doing it in plain sight? If you know something is bad for you, you know you might get busted doing it, and you know it finances death and murder, but you need it so bad that it you have to risk it, you may have a problem. I'm not bullshitting about the terrorism though. I really think the defense department should be more involved in protecting the country from drugs then political and religious extremists. For those who claim that it should be legalized because a person has the right to damage their own body, I agree. But it doesn't. Addiction is a disease that not only infects the host but sickens all who come in contact with it. Friends, family, the workplace, schools, and random strangers who are caught between the crossfire.

Godfather.

no I didn't call you stupid mh210105
sorry you took it that way, I went thru a rehab program and paid for it myself and did not get any funding
it was my choice to do drugs and my choice to get clean, my point of stupid stupid stupid is this...you all want to legalize drugs then then call addiction a illness that will be covered by state or federal funding no doubt...that would be setting up people to fail at the cost of the hard working tax payers and that is stupid !...don't ya think

Godfather.

Godfather.

whgarrett wrote:

For me the real problem with the war on drugs is the marijuana. I think it should be legalized. I do not see it being any more destructive than alcohol. It is still a classified schedule I drug along with heroin and LSD!! It is rated higher than cocaine. That's crazy. However, I do not think cocaine, meth, heroin, or any other strong opiate should be legal. I believe we should be treating these drug dealers as terrorists. They are destroying countless lives and families and costing the country billions. For the casual user that doesn't have a drug problem it shouldn't be a big deal to do it at home, safely without the fear of getting caught. I mean if you don't have a problem and can handle your drugs then why do you get caught? You needed it so bad that you had to go to a shady place to buy it and were pulled over? You couldn't wait to smoke/shoot/snort it somewhere safe and had to risk doing it in plain sight? If you know something is bad for you, you know you might get busted doing it, and you know it finances death and murder, but you need it so bad that it you have to risk it, you may have a problem. I'm not bullshitting about the terrorism though. I really think the defense department should be more involved in protecting the country from drugs then political and religious extremists. For those who claim that it should be legalized because a person has the right to damage their own body, I agree. But it doesn't. Addiction is a disease that not only infects the host but sickens all who come in contact with it. Friends, family, the workplace, schools, and random strangers who are caught between the crossfire.

great post !

Godfather.

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big mick

Godfather. wrote:

no I didn't call you stupid mh210105
sorry you took it that way, I went thru a rehab program and paid for it myself and did not get any funding
it was my choice to do drugs and my choice to get clean, my point of stupid stupid stupid is this...you all want to legalize drugs then then call addiction a illness that will be covered by state or federal funding no doubt...that would be setting up people to fail at the cost of the hard working tax payers and that is stupid !...don't ya think

Godfather.

This is pretty much how treatment is run in the UK.

chadwick

what about the cia and the top secret international drug smugglers and killers who are uncle sam?

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

what about the cia and the top secret international drug smugglers and killers who are uncle sam?

:shh: shhhhhh.. there is no such thing and no secret international drug smugglers it's all a pigment of your intoxication......


Godfather.

chadwick

Godfather. wrote:

chadwick wrote:

what about the cia and the top secret international drug smugglers and killers who are uncle sam?

:shh: shhhhhh.. there is no such thing and no secret international drug smugglers it's all a pigment of your intoxication......


Godfather.

didn't realize this was a comedy

Godfather.

chadwick wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

chadwick wrote:

what about the cia and the top secret international drug smugglers and killers who are uncle sam?

:shh: shhhhhh.. there is no such thing and no secret international drug smugglers it's all a pigment of your intoxication......


Godfather.

didn't realize this was a comedy

I thought that's what secret government anything was around here

Godfather.

catefrances

your move now wrote:

but isn't that really the overall point, that use/addiction/abuse should be treated as medical not criminal

oh girl you making too much sense.


i just find it weird that drugs are illegal.. but not ALL drugs. just seems to be the ones the govts cant control. i dont see why i cant grow my own personal plants in my veggie patch alongside my tomatoes without the law breathing down my neck.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

your move now wrote:

but isn't that really the overall point, that use/addiction/abuse should be treated as medical not criminal

oh girl you making too much sense.


i just find it weird that drugs are illegal.. but not ALL drugs. just seems to be the ones the govts cant control. i dont see why i cant grow my own personal plants in my veggie patch alongside my tomatoes without the law breathing down my neck.

thank you, catester. and can you imagine the gardens in your lands? y'all have some major sunlight goin on. i'd imagine w/ a lil drink of water and the right nitrogen rich soil, the land over there would produce huge tomatoes

chadwick

better not though, catester. the united states might get all up in your ass for having a garden 19,000 miles from uncle dick

catefrances

chadwick wrote:

better not though, catester. the united states might get all up in your ass for having a garden 19,000 miles from uncle dick

well we are directly under an army flight path so....

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

better not though, catester. the united states might get all up in your ass for having a garden 19,000 miles from uncle dick

well we are directly under an army flight path so....

the usa bombs other countries over plants all the time. poor mexico, central and south america. murder them poor ppl down there then steal their crop and sell it.

catefrances

chadwick wrote:

catefrances wrote:

chadwick wrote:

better not though, catester. the united states might get all up in your ass for having a garden 19,000 miles from uncle dick

well we are directly under an army flight path so....

the usa bombs other countries over plants all the time. poor mexico, central and south america. murder them poor ppl down there then steal their crop and sell it.

yeah im not really all that concerned about the US dropping a bomb on my veggie patch.

chadwick

catefrances wrote:

yeah im not really all that concerned about the US dropping a bomb on my veggie patch.

you would be if you were an aztec indian minding to your own affairs.