Romney/Christie 2012 welcome to the next AMERICAN century

gimmesometruth27

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dasvidana

Romney is the darling of corporations, I really fear how they might use their corporate controlled media to sell him to the American people. Ugh.

CH156378

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He even looks like Kerry. Which is even funnier being he is from Massachusetts.

Byrnzie

Newch91 wrote:

They're running on nothing.

Reagan? What good did Reagan do America?

Are people's memories really so short?

Newch91

Byrnzie wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

They're running on nothing.

Reagan? What good did Reagan do America?

Are people's memories really so short?

Probably a stupid question, but is this directed at me?

If it is, I know Reagan did nothing good for America except start the economic problems that we have today.

usamamasan1

“I think he’s forgetting that he had a Democrat Congress for his first two years that put in place his economic plans,” Mr. Romney said. “He borrowed $787 billion, told us that if we let him borrow that kind of money he’d keep unemployment below 8%. It has not been below 8% since. He has failed.”


Obama is done


WOOT

pandora

Romney / Christie
yep .... I can see this

How bout Romney / Paul, it would be nice to see Ron score something in his lifetime of
awesome hard work

if he would consider runner up

pjfan021

ron paul is the only conservative candidate who has any ideas worth while...still wouldn't vote for him but mitt romney doesn't have anything to tout. He spent his career in the private sector buying companies and selling them off or laying off workers to make money...he didn't create jobs at all; the health care bill he signed in MA is almost identical to Obama's...and it works pretty well for them in Mass....on a sidenote, there are still rumors that Clinton may jump on as a VP and Biden may move to her position so that would really kill this romney/christie bid you think of.

Gern Blansten

About 25% of what Ron Paul says is sane....the rest is absolutely batshit crazy.

Conan O'Brien did a fake ad a few weeks ago that was probably pretty accurate as to what the country would be like if Ron Paul got what he wanted. Basically every citizen would be given a lead pipe to beat back the starving horde of people that would be swarming because of the loss of social security, welfare, unemployment benefits, etc.

pjl44

Gern Blansten wrote:

About 25% of what Ron Paul says is sane....the rest is absolutely batshit crazy.

Conan O'Brien did a fake ad a few weeks ago that was probably pretty accurate as to what the country would be like if Ron Paul got what he wanted. Basically every citizen would be given a lead pipe to beat back the starving horde of people that would be swarming because of the loss of social security, welfare, unemployment benefits, etc.

It sounds especially batshit crazy when you consider none of what you described is in his plan.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/r ... e-america/

Gern Blansten

Sure it is....you just can't "Read"

pjl44

Gern Blansten wrote:

Sure it is....you just can't "Read"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Gern Blansten

Anyone who can't see the disaster that privatizing social security would be is batshit crazy. Paul is so far out there even the GOP can't stand him and won't stand by him as evidenced by his treatment on Faux News, etc.

You like him....that's fine....but he's batshit crazy.

JonnyPistachio

Gern Blansten wrote:

Anyone who can't see the disaster that privatizing social security would be is batshit crazy. Paul is so far out there even the GOP can't stand him and won't stand by him as evidenced by his treatment on Faux News, etc.

You like him....that's fine....but he's batshit crazy.

How can the GOP identify Paul as batshit crazy, but ignore Bachmann and Perry?

CH156378

Gern Blansten wrote:

Anyone who can't see the disaster that privatizing social security would be is batshit crazy. Paul is so far out there even the GOP can't stand him and won't stand by him as evidenced by his treatment on Faux News, etc.

You like him....that's fine....but he's batshit crazy.

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Also if iI could add.I have noticed a disturbing trend as of late. Rand Paul sitting in with his Dad during many recent interviews. It seems when Ron can't finish a thought or give a coherent answear Rand seems to but in and answear for him.
Let's also remember we had one president with alzheimers in the White House (Reagan.) Do we really need another?

Newch91

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plu ... _blog.html

When will media demand that Mitt Romney back up his claims about jobs?

By Greg Sargent

I don’t know how to be any clearer about this, but here goes. It is now beyond doubt that Mitt Romney will be resting his case against Obama on two core claims.

The first: At Bain Capital, Romney created over 100,000 jobs, which proves he has the job-creation experience to turn the economy around.

The second: Under the Obama presidency, the country has actually lost jobs, which proves his record is a failure.

These claims are absolutely central to Romney’s entire rationale for runing for president. Is it too much to expect reporters and news outlets to scrutinize them or to ask him to substantiate them?

The Romney campaign is triumphantly circulating a quote that Romney gave to Fox News today. Asked about the Dem criticism of his Bain years, Romney replied:

“This is a president who lost more jobs during his tenure than any president since Hoover. This is 2 million jobs that he lost as President. And by the way, when he was overseeing General Motors and Chrysler, how many factories did he close? How many dealerships? How many thousands upon thousands of Americans had to be let go in an effort to try and save those businesses? That’s what we did in our business. And I’m very happy in my former life; we helped create over 100,000 new jobs. By the way, we created more jobs in Massachusetts than this president’s created in the entire country. So if the President wants to talk about jobs, and I hope he does, we’ll be comparing my record with his record and he comes up very, very short.”

It’s obviously too much to expect Fox to challenge these claims. But Romney has made this assertion about 100,000 new jobs in various other settings, too. As Steve Benen noted, his Super PAC is also making a very similar claim in ads. And as far as I can tell, only two lonely fact checking operations — one at the Post, the other at FactCheck.org — have scrutinized it. They have found that the assertion is at best unsubstantiated and that there may have been more layoffs than jobs created by Bain; there’s no way to tell for sure. When will reporters push Romney on this?

Meanwhile, Romney’s claim that two million jobs were lost under the Obama presidency is based on the idea that there’s been a net loss of jobs since he took office. In other words, Romney is taking into account the fact that the economy continued hemorraghing jobs at a furious rate after Obama took office — before Obama’s stimulus passed. But the figures show that once it became law, monthly job loss declined over time, and turned around in the spring of 2010, after which the private sector added jobs for over 20 straight months, totaling around 2.2 million of them.

You can debate whether the stimulus underperformed. You can debate whether the stimulus is the reason the economy did add private sector jobs. You can argue that public sector jobs loss should be factored in. But it is not debatable to claim that the overall net jobs loss number Romney cites is a fair measure of the success or failure of Obama’s policies. At an absolute minimum, Romney should be pressed to explain why he’s claiming this net loss figure as an indictment of those policies, when many of those jobs were lost before the policies were implemented.

When NBC, to its enormous credit, pressed Romney to justify his debunked claim that Obama made the economy “worse,” the network made big news by getting Romney to backtrack. These latest claims provide another opportunity to do the same, people.

pjfan021

oh mitt....what a shithead. Whether you like Obama or not, he saved a lot of jobs by bailing out the auto industry...there were a shitload of jobs that were going to be lost if nothing was done there and for him to come out and say that the president fucked up the auto industry's job market is asinine. Romney did not create jobs while at Bain if you look into how many people he fired.....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 3872.story

gimmesometruth27

pjfan021 wrote:

oh mitt....what a shithead. Whether you like Obama or not, he saved a lot of jobs by bailing out the auto industry...there were a shitload of jobs that were going to be lost if nothing was done there and for him to come out and say that the president fucked up the auto industry's job market is asinine. Romney did not create jobs while at Bain if you look into how many people he fired.....

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 3872.story

to add to this, the auto bailouts actually made the taxpayers money. every one of those companies have paid back thier loans WITH interest...

BinFrog

Romney’s statement, while technically correct, is lacking crucial context. He compares his four-year record with Obama’s three-year tally and ignores the fact that hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost before Obama’s policies had an impact. He also focuses on his job creation record as a business consultant but does not count the jobs that were lost.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fac ... _blog.html

polaris_x

i can't believe romney would make a stupid comment about the chevy volt ... horrendous ...

in any case - i am of the belief now that obama will make it to term 2 ... although i contend that any candidate with a R next to their name can win the presidency (and I mean ANYONE) ... i believe the establishment prefers continuity and obama will get his 8 years as long as he complies (which he has) ... this list of GOP candidates is absurd and laughable except it really is more sad than funny ... edit: Paul excluded ...