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Backspacer white vinyl - how do I know?

Up Here In My TreeUp Here In My Tree Posts: 541
edited December 2011 in The Porch
How do I know the difference between a Backspacer white vinyl album and a non white vinyl without actually opening in? Anyone know?
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    open it....
    not sure if there's any other way to tell. i opened my copy, looked at the marbled white vinyl & put it on the turntable! :D
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    Up Here In My Tree wrote:
    How do I know the difference between a Backspacer white vinyl album and a non white vinyl without actually opening in? Anyone know?

    Is impossible...
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
    Neil deGrasse Tyson

    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • Up Here In My TreeUp Here In My Tree Posts: 541
    Damn...that's what I thought. Thanks, I appreciate the response.
  • photogirllizphotogirlliz Posts: 2,491
    mfc2006 wrote:
    open it....
    not sure if there's any other way to tell. i opened my copy, looked at the marbled white vinyl & put it on the turntable! :D
    :clap: Me too!
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  • PKTrekGirlPKTrekGirl Posts: 747
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?

    limited pressing...they sold these a few weeks back.
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  • LoveBoatCaptainDaveLoveBoatCaptainDave san antonio,tx Posts: 461
    photogirlliz wrote:
    mfc2006 wrote:
    open it....
    not sure if there's any other way to tell. i opened my copy, looked at the marbled white vinyl & put it on the turntable! :D
    :clap: Me too!
    same here!! i mean is there any other way!!
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  • Up Here In My TreeUp Here In My Tree Posts: 541
    Be careful though, especially since you can't tell without opening it.

    I just opened it and it's not white vinyl...I'm pissed. Bought it on e-bay.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    Up Here In My Tree wrote:
    Be careful though, especially since you can't tell without opening it.

    I just opened it and it's not white vinyl...I'm pissed. Bought it on e-bay.

    holy shit....
    that sucks, man. sorry that happened to you. when did you buy it? you might be able to dispute it through eBay and/or PayPal.
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  • Chief BroomChief Broom Posts: 2,036
    mfc2006 wrote:
    Up Here In My Tree wrote:
    Be careful though, especially since you can't tell without opening it.

    I just opened it and it's not white vinyl...I'm pissed. Bought it on e-bay.

    holy shit....
    that sucks, man. sorry that happened to you. when did you buy it? you might be able to dispute it through eBay and/or PayPal.
    You have 45 days to dispute through ebay/paypal...That is some shit...
    MLMF Det
  • PKTrekGirlPKTrekGirl Posts: 747
    mfc2006 wrote:
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?

    limited pressing...they sold these a few weeks back.

    Ah! I see! Thanks! So if you ordered it from here during a certain time period, you got a white one for sure...and if you ordered it elsewhere during that period, you may or may not have received a white one?

    Were the white ones a higher price at 10c? Or same price and if they didn't have a white one left, they sent you a regular one?

    I'm just curious as to why people don't know if they have one or not... Seems like if you ordered from 10c, you'd have ordered that specifically....

    I don't have one, by the way...I just curious. :lol:
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    mfc2006 wrote:
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?

    limited pressing...they sold these a few weeks back.

    Ah! I see! Thanks! So if you ordered it from here during a certain time period, you got a white one for sure...and if you ordered it elsewhere during that period, you may or may not have received a white one?

    Were the white ones a higher price at 10c? Or same price and if they didn't have a white one left, they sent you a regular one?

    I'm just curious as to why people don't know if they have one or not... Seems like if you ordered from 10c, you'd have ordered that specifically....

    I don't have one, by the way...I just curious. :lol:

    if you recieved a copy from the 10c during the White Backspacer sale, then you can be confident that it is white. the thing is....the packaging is the same, so there's no way to tell unless you open it. because of that, some people are selling the original (black) sealed copies on eBay saying that they're white....and they aren't. they're just out to make a quick $...which is complete bullshit (in my opinion).

    you can still buy Backspacer on vinyl, but the White copies sold out very quickly. no one knows how may were pressed...but it was limited & they sold out fast...so that number has to be pretty low.
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  • jshinjshin Posts: 1,759
    The best thing about white vinyl is how well it hides greasy fingerprints...
    I ain't got no fly'n shoes..




  • PKTrekGirlPKTrekGirl Posts: 747
    mfc2006 wrote:
    if you recieved a copy from the 10c during the White Backspacer sale, then you can be confident that it is white. the thing is....the packaging is the same, so there's no way to tell unless you open it. because of that, some people are selling the original (black) sealed copies on eBay saying that they're white....and they aren't. they're just out to make a quick $...which is complete bullshit (in my opinion).

    you can still buy Backspacer on vinyl, but the White copies sold out very quickly. no one knows how may were pressed...but it was limited & they sold out fast...so that number has to be pretty low.

    Thanks very much for taking the time to 'splain it to me! I very much appreciate it!

    So this product was run just like all the other limited items...only available here at 10c, limited pressing, etc. The only difference is that the people reselling them on ebay are oftentimes dishonest in their representation, because they know that the cover is the same as a run-of-the-mill copy and unless you opened it, you'd never know. Right?

    Thanks again for explaining it. I don't have one, nor am I in the market for one...I was just curious as to why what a person bought would be a mystery to them upon receipt.
  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    mfc2006 wrote:
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?

    limited pressing...they sold these a few weeks back.

    a few weeks back means September 30th...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    Up Here In My Tree wrote:
    Be careful though, especially since you can't tell without opening it.

    I just opened it and it's not white vinyl...I'm pissed. Bought it on e-bay.

    open a case against that fucker and request the total amount, that was made deliberately, that person intention was to rip you off... and to add insult to injury, you will have to spend more money to ship it back...
    ... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...

  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    javiselerrante wrote:
    mfc2006 wrote:
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?

    limited pressing...they sold these a few weeks back.

    a few weeks back means September 30th...

    thanks. couldn't recall the exact date.
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  • NoelMichaelNoelMichael Posts: 1,635
    Ask the seller to provide the copy of the invoice that came with it. If they don't have that, ask for a printout of the order # from the Goods section. It's not total proof that what you have is actually a white BS, but it's better than nothing.
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  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    mfc2006 wrote:
    thanks. couldn't recall the exact date.

    you are welcome my friend, I knew it was on late Sept, however, I had to check my order history to reply accurately, to be honest, when I read what I wrote later, I thought "that may sound rude", it wasn't my intention to be rude, I'm glad you didn't take it that way...
    PKTrekGirl wrote:
    What? Were these white ones randomly distributed throughout the pressing or something? Were they available for only a limited time? Or are they still out there in the yet-to-be-purchased albums?

    I was told that some of these were released back in 2009, for raising funds for a charity, I honestly don't know if it was exactly like that... we don't know if there are more available, or if they are going to press more...

    these were made available on September 29 evening, PST, and by October 1st or 2nd they were sold out... It seems that many people ordered several copies, and the rest couldn't get none, so 10C management decided to cancel all multiple orders and put those item cancelled back on sale "members only, 1 per member", even so, many couldn't get theirs since it was a limited quantity

    So they weren't randomly distributed, it was a specific sale, the price was 25 + shipping, many white backspacers are on the bay right now but that is another topic...
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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    31.50 delivered

    Between 500-5000 pressed per santo


    As for the op, file a complaint and offer to file a police case under the fraud catagory if the seller gives you any shit....and leave negative feedback calling out the fraud

    These things may prove to be the one thing worth more open
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  • javis el errantejavis el errante Buenos Aires Posts: 6,144
    and another one went out for 163.50

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/260907746663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&autorefresh=true
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  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    javiselerrante wrote:
    and another one went out for 163.50

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/260907746663?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&autorefresh=true
    And that is on the low end
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  • PJ Fan 1978PJ Fan 1978 Posts: 165
    jshin wrote:
    The best thing about white vinyl is how well it hides greasy fingerprints...


    lol - you could always lick your fingers a little bit better ;)
  • jimbojones1138jimbojones1138 Posts: 3,640
    Up Here In My Tree wrote:
    Be careful though, especially since you can't tell without opening it.

    I just opened it and it's not white vinyl...I'm pissed. Bought it on e-bay.


    :shock:
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
  • grdesigner79grdesigner79 Posts: 186
    This record should probably go down as one of PJ's rarest. I'm fairly certain that a thousand of these were pressed which is half the amount of the Benaroya set.
  • jshinjshin Posts: 1,759
    grdesigner79 wrote:
    This record should probably go down as one of PJ's rarest. I'm fairly certain that a thousand of these were pressed which is half the amount of the Benaroya set.

    The world may never know....
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  • grdesigner79grdesigner79 Posts: 186
    I'm certain
  • aus_suzaus_suz Posts: 9,379
    When I purchased a purple vinyl from Metclub it had a sticker saying it was purple
    gee sucks ppl are selling black for white..
  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Up Here In My Tree wrote:
    Be careful though, especially since you can't tell without opening it.

    I just opened it and it's not white vinyl...I'm pissed. Bought it on e-bay.

    Man, that sucks. I am sure some of these ebay sellers are banking on the fact that you won't open it and just "assume" its the white vinyl. Very cool the 10club made these available, but having some way to differentiate it from the black backspacer would help to avoid this issue.
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  • Up Here In My TreeUp Here In My Tree Posts: 541
    Thanks everyone. I just heard back from the seller and he/she is actually being pretty cool about it and I'm sending it back. The odd part is that he/she says the "ten club must have messed up my order"? Not sure I'm buying that.

    I paid $170, btw, which I thought was pretty good. I've been tracking these things for a bit and, just like the Blu Ray limited PJ20 DVD's (which I already have) they are super expensive.

    I'm still going to try to get one though! Just like a drug addict, I gotta have my PJ collectibles!
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