There was a thread last week that made me laugh too......something about what god looks like.
The ignorance in this thread is pretty sad. My guess is that alot of these people posting have never known a transgendered person.
How many people here do you actually think hang out w/ dudes that chop their own dicks off?
just curious...
CHOP OFF THEIR OWN DICKS.
If that ain't psychotic, then I don't know what is.
Im not a bigot, I don't discriminate, and I don't hate. Its just my opinion that gender-id crisis' are a mental disorder. that deserves better traetment than radical sexual reassignment surgery.
Why don't you follow the posting guidelines, and refrain from making personal attacks, before you get a nice little Xmas ban?
I seriously want to know...no one thinks some perverts won't claim they are transgendered if they think they can get away with it?
You are aware that there are doors and walls in women's dressing rooms, right? And perverts can sneak in without having to go through the trouble of making themselves up to be transgendered.
duh!!!! I am fully aware...I'm not about to except another excuse that these pervs can use to avoid the law. A mans washroom is for men, a woman washroom is for woman...why is that a problem.
While I'm not saying I want to go to all unisex public restrooms or dressing rooms, let's ask ourselves for a minute: Why do they really need to be separate?
If you have a dog and its got a penis is its gender in question.
I accept transgender, but all this touchy feely stuff is a bit over the top.
sure there are SOME who are born differently but thats SOME not all.
the majority are born with a sexual organ either penis or vagina and that is and has always been what we define as making us male or female.
It's fear that often underlies bigotry, discrimination, and hatred.
I totally agree. Fear and ignorance. (Of course a lot of it is willful ignorance, that comes from bigotry/discrimination/hatred, that comes from fear. So I guess it's a vicious cycle. :( )
It's fear that often underlies bigotry, discrimination, and hatred.
I totally agree. Fear and ignorance. (Of course a lot of it is willful ignorance, that comes from bigotry/discrimination/hatred, that comes from fear. So I guess it's a vicious cycle. :( )
This thread has got a stupid, vicious cycle. And it's run its course.
all of you who are talking about therapy for transgender people don't appear to have a lot of knowledge on the issue... intensive therapy is a requirement before you are allowed to undergo gender reassignment surgery, it is only allowed after recommendations from the treating shrink. Are you suggesting that you know more about the human mind than proffessionals in this area.
Also if you think it is unnecessary and that the bigotry (and it is bigotry - misspelt I know) should have look into the suicide figures for transgender individuals
I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
"Just because a baby is born w/ a penis, doesn't make it male."
I laughed so hard when I read this.... the world is fucked.
The SEX is male, gender is a social construct.
Like pointed out earlier, is there any reason that pink is a 'girls' colour? No, it's a social construct.
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sorry
a person born witha penis is a male
a person born with a vagina is a female.
what happens after that is ?????
so that is your only determining factor? what if a baby is born with a penis and an ovary? the physical division between male and female is very thin. as a male you have a penis and testicles.. as a woman i have labia and a clitoris.. but is that all that makes you male and me female? if i was born without a vagina would that mean i wasnt female??
we class male and female on genitalia . its that simple. people after that fact can choose, grow learn and accept their place in the gender map
. and Im all for that. but all this political correctness is just getting a bit silly
if you have both your a hermafridite ( spelling)
how often do people get born without any sexual organs
so your sex is how you feel
so by your own admission there are instances where being born with a penis doesnt automatically make one a male. thank you.
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This employee got canned because she couldn't follow her employer's instructions and took it upon herself to discriminate against a customer. Honestly, I don't care about the customer's gender issues; it's not relevant. If you can't do your job because you feel the need to discriminate against a customer despite your opposition to your behavior you can't be surprised when your axed for your own bigotry.
This employee got canned because she couldn't follow her employer's instructions and took it upon herself to discriminate against a customer. Honestly, I don't care about the customer's gender issues; it's not relevant. If you can't do your job because you feel the need to discriminate against a customer despite your opposition to your behavior you can't be surprised when your axed for your own bigotry.
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That's what the issue is... an employee's failure to follow employer guidelines. It gets all tangled up because the term, 'TransGendered' comes into play.
Had the customer been Gay, for example... same results... employee's violation of company policy towards customer... employee fired. And this would have never hit the (so-called) news.
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It's fear that often underlies bigotry, discrimination, and hatred.
I totally agree. Fear and ignorance. (Of course a lot of it is willful ignorance, that comes from bigotry/discrimination/hatred, that comes from fear. So I guess it's a vicious cycle. :( )
This thread has got a stupid, vicious cycle. And it's run its course.
out.
Whew!
Stupidity and viciousness just left the thread...
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This employee got canned because she couldn't follow her employer's instructions and took it upon herself to discriminate against a customer. Honestly, I don't care about the customer's gender issues; it's not relevant. If you can't do your job because you feel the need to discriminate against a customer despite your opposition to your behavior you can't be surprised when your axed for your own bigotry.
What's funny is this Macy's employee will sue... and WIN.
Will that upset your all-inclusive definition of bigotry?
What a fucked up fruitcake world normal people like me are forced to live in....
Im not a bigot, I don't discriminate, and I don't hate. Its just my opinion that gender-id crisis' are a mental disorder. that deserves better traetment than radical sexual reassignment surgery.
Why don't you follow the posting guidelines, and refrain from making personal attacks, before you get a nice little Xmas ban?
So you're saying that in the right circumstances you'd discriminate? You have the beliefs in place, you just haven't been in a position to carry those beliefs out in action.
Im not a bigot, I don't discriminate, and I don't hate. Its just my opinion that gender-id crisis' are a mental disorder. that deserves better traetment than radical sexual reassignment surgery.
Why don't you follow the posting guidelines, and refrain from making personal attacks, before you get a nice little Xmas ban?
So you're saying that in the right circumstances you'd discriminate? You have the beliefs in place, you just haven't been in a position to carry those beliefs out in action.
At one point society considered this behavior unacceptable, but we have now evolved where is has been considered acceptable, at least to the liberal and litigious, but not to the conservative and religious.
I have not put much thought into this subject, but this thread got me considering how issues that were once taboo are getting pushed through as acceptable in today's society. Do you think we have reached the limit on what's considered acceptable sexual behavior, or will more groups move forward? Are the only dividing lines going to be those that are enforced by the court of law?
Im not a bigot, I don't discriminate, and I don't hate. Its just my opinion that gender-id crisis' are a mental disorder. that deserves better traetment than radical sexual reassignment surgery.
Why don't you follow the posting guidelines, and refrain from making personal attacks, before you get a nice little Xmas ban?
So you're saying that in the right circumstances you'd discriminate? You have the beliefs in place, you just haven't been in a position to carry those beliefs out in action.
At one point society considered this behavior unacceptable, but we have now evolved where is has been considered acceptable, at least to the liberal and litigious, but not to the conservative and religious.
I have not put much thought into this subject, but this thread got me considering how issues that were once taboo are getting pushed through as acceptable in today's society. Do you think we have reached the limit on what's considered acceptable sexual behavior, or will more groups move forward? Are the only dividing lines going to be those that are enforced by the court of law?
What's funny is this Macy's employee will sue... and WIN.
Will that upset your all-inclusive definition of bigotry?
What a fucked up fruitcake world normal people like me are forced to live in....
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She will not win because her actions were in violation of company policy... just as you can get fired for using your company's computer to surf for porn on company time and will lose a wrongful termination lawsuit.
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And there was a time (and not all that long ago) where 'normal' people had to stomach such 'abnormal behaviour' as inter-racial couples.
But... eventually, they came around to accepting it. Or died off.
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No, dudes that CHOP OFF THEIR OWN DICKS are scary.
It's fear that often underlies bigotry, discrimination, and hatred. Thanks for being honest, though.
Why don't you follow the posting guidelines, and refrain from making personal attacks, before you get a nice little Xmas ban?
While I'm not saying I want to go to all unisex public restrooms or dressing rooms, let's ask ourselves for a minute: Why do they really need to be separate?
I totally agree. Fear and ignorance. (Of course a lot of it is willful ignorance, that comes from bigotry/discrimination/hatred, that comes from fear. So I guess it's a vicious cycle. :( )
This thread has got a stupid, vicious cycle. And it's run its course.
out.
Also if you think it is unnecessary and that the bigotry (and it is bigotry - misspelt I know) should have look into the suicide figures for transgender individuals
Like pointed out earlier, is there any reason that pink is a 'girls' colour? No, it's a social construct.
so by your own admission there are instances where being born with a penis doesnt automatically make one a male. thank you.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
This employee got canned because she couldn't follow her employer's instructions and took it upon herself to discriminate against a customer. Honestly, I don't care about the customer's gender issues; it's not relevant. If you can't do your job because you feel the need to discriminate against a customer despite your opposition to your behavior you can't be surprised when your axed for your own bigotry.
That's what the issue is... an employee's failure to follow employer guidelines. It gets all tangled up because the term, 'TransGendered' comes into play.
Had the customer been Gay, for example... same results... employee's violation of company policy towards customer... employee fired. And this would have never hit the (so-called) news.
Hail, Hail!!!
Whew!
Stupidity and viciousness just left the thread...
96: Cork, Dublin
00: Dublin
06: London, Dublin
07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
09: Manchester, London
10: Dublin, Belfast, London & Berlin
11: San José
12: Isle of Wight, Copenhagen, Ed in Manchester & London x2
Godfather.
What's funny is this Macy's employee will sue... and WIN.
Will that upset your all-inclusive definition of bigotry?
What a fucked up fruitcake world normal people like me are forced to live in....
So you're saying that in the right circumstances you'd discriminate? You have the beliefs in place, you just haven't been in a position to carry those beliefs out in action.
I have not put much thought into this subject, but this thread got me considering how issues that were once taboo are getting pushed through as acceptable in today's society. Do you think we have reached the limit on what's considered acceptable sexual behavior, or will more groups move forward? Are the only dividing lines going to be those that are enforced by the court of law?
a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
Godfather.
She will not win because her actions were in violation of company policy... just as you can get fired for using your company's computer to surf for porn on company time and will lose a wrongful termination lawsuit.
...
And there was a time (and not all that long ago) where 'normal' people had to stomach such 'abnormal behaviour' as inter-racial couples.
But... eventually, they came around to accepting it. Or died off.
Hail, Hail!!!