Some famous mastering engineers would "sign" the records they mastered in the run out groove, kind of like a painter signs a painting. For example, the "Robert Ludwig" version of Led Zeppelin II sounds AMAZING if you can find one. They are highly prized by collectors.
Look for the initials "RL" carved in the run out grooves on both sides. The sound is TOTALLY ROCKIN'!!
Surpasses even the MoFi pressing IMHO
The George Piros "GP" pressing of "The Yes Album" sounds great too.
Some famous mastering engineers would "sign" the records they mastered in the run out groove, kind of like a painter signs a painting. For example, the "Robert Ludwig" version of Led Zeppelin II sounds AMAZING if you can find one. They are highly prized by collectors.
Look for the initials "RL" carved in the run out grooves on both sides. The sound is TOTALLY ROCKIN'!!
Surpasses even the MoFi pressing IMHO
The George Piros "GP" pressing of "The Yes Album" sounds great too.
Cool thread.
The Rearviewmirror LP's have mostly code with the word "Golden".
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Some famous mastering engineers would "sign" the records they mastered in the run out groove, kind of like a painter signs a painting. For example, the "Robert Ludwig" version of Led Zeppelin II sounds AMAZING if you can find one. They are highly prized by collectors.
Look for the initials "RL" carved in the run out grooves on both sides. The sound is TOTALLY ROCKIN'!!
Surpasses even the MoFi pressing IMHO
The George Piros "GP" pressing of "The Yes Album" sounds great too.
In my copy, I can read something very similar to an R and somethig very similar to an L inside the space of the bends of a big S... don't know if my copy is from Robert Ludwig master but it does sound awesome....
Edit: Still don't know if the one I got was mastered by RL. But mine is an Atlantic release, don't remember the code, and was printed in the USA, so I don't know which pressing it is, and which edition, but anyway, it might as well be the one mastered by RL, and still sounds great...
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Glad this thread got bumped - inspired me to check some of our vinyl... Good way to spend a Saturday!
Here are some of my finds... Most SST records seem to have them...
Black Flag Everything Went Black
1 - Robo is God - spacing out to the beat of a different drummer
2 - Feeling uneasy? Chavo sez here comes Dez - Jealous anyone?
3 - So maybe we're waiting for a heavy alloy savior, Ozzie?
4 - No corn in my horn - not where the bop drops, y'all
Evil clutches - let no man fall prey
Black Flag Loose Nut
1 - Kickin' and Stickin'
2 - All for me, all for me
Black Flag Slip It In
1 - Only the steaming liquid of caffeine...Stark, starker
2 - And walked out into the bright sunlight without sunglasses
Black Flag Jealous Again
A - Do the creepy crawl (bars)
B - Wash this out of your life (bars)
Black Flag Damaged
1 - Comin' at ya, the neo real gelatinous thing
2 - Sizzled the pants right off of me - Howie
Aaah What the hell - Harold
Black Flag My War
1 - Exploring the inside of empty guns
2 - Looking for the markings of rifled thoughts. Is that it then?
Black Flag Family Man
A - Looking out from a tight corner
B - Mirrors only create the illusion of less space
The Blasting Concept - Volume 2 SST
1 - "Just so many things can be stapled together..." Christine Jorgensen
2 - Tis not too late to seek a newer world - Tennyson
Minutemen
1 - Bones - the list...the list in the dream?
2 - .....And the guests came in through little funnels - dripping
Minor Threat
A - Down and out, up and down
B - Over and over, over and out
Minor Threat Out of Step
A - Why did the punk cross the road?
B - Because Ian told him to
(Ha ha - my favorite!)
Soundgarden Ultramega OK
1 - A religious man might think we're evil...
2 - A rational man might think we're religious
Smashed Gladys Social Intercourse
1 - non pro Rama non pro numerate
2 - adeptio concubitus estate modus operendum
Thanks for letting me share!
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Joy Division's UK 12" single of "Love Will Tear Us Apart":
SIDE A - I'VE ONLY GOT RECORD SHOPS LEFT
SIDE B - DON'T DISILLUSION ME
And the classic Led Zeppelin III (apparently most pressings have one message or the other in the deadwax, but not both):
SIDE A - DO WHAT THOU WILT
SIDE B - SO MOTE BE IT
...Because Jimmy Page was one Satan-worshipping MFer.
I'm new to Ten Club (and new to vinyl), so this may be a silly thread...however, today as I was unwrapping my new Pearl Jam Twenty record ( ) I happened to look at the matrix number etched on the run-out area of the record and noticed a peculiar message of "1 2 3 o'clock 4 o'clock rock". I was a bit surprised, so I looked at the others and noticed there were 'hidden messages' on all of them. This made me take a look at my other PJ records and, low and behold...there were messages on some of them as well!
Here's what I found...
Eddie Vedder-Ukulele Songs
-Side A - WITH LOVE TO LEILA AUSTIN & EDWARD LEE. ENJOY YOUR RIDE.
-Side B - DON'T DELAY, LEARN TO PLAY, START TODAY.
PJ-White Backspacer
-Side A - GRAMMA MARGE, DAUGHTER OF PEARL 1918-2009.
-Side B - R.J.O.K.V.H.J... M.R. FOREVER
PJ Twenty
-LP 1 Side A - 1 2 3 O'CLOCK 4 O'CLOCK ROCK
-LP 1 Side B - THANKS MOM AND DAD
-LP 2 Side A - BE LIKE WATER BE LIKE WIND
-LP 2 Side B - NOTHING CAN SURPASS THE MYSTERY OF STILLNESS
-LP 3 Side A - OUR BIGGEST ACHIEVEMENT: ASSISTING TO FREE THE WEST MEMPHIS THREE
-LP 3 Side B - LIVE ALOHA EVERYDAY. MAHALO NUI LOA .... PEARL JAM
The original pressings I have of Vitalogy and Yield have nothing on them.
Has anyone else noticed this? If so, what have you found?
This is just a re-post. I don't know how to transfer my post here other than copy and paste.
This was your thread you started originally so you get the bump.
It is incredible that your post is written and described pretty well like mine. I just spent 2 hours looking at my records and writing down on paper what I want to type.
Recently took out a few singles and for the first time I actually read the writing/etching/inscriptions on the run-out groove for each side of the record.
Noticed some sides had sayings and others had random letters and numbers.
For example on the Backspacer LP
Side A has "Gramma Marge Daughter of Pearl 1918-2009" and "www.gzvinyl" inscribed.
Side B has "GOLDEN" and "RJOKVHJ Mr. Forever..." inscribed
Curious if others have different writing on their vinyl and if so - What does it say?
Here is a list of records and what I see inscribed/etched in the run-out groove on each side.
Devil Doll
Side A- Better Things and random letters/numbers
Side B - Devil Doll and random letters/numbers
2012 Live Alpine
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
2009 Touring Mist
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
2008 Single
Side A - GOLDEN
Side B - GOLDEN
2007 Annual single
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
2005 Little Sister/Gone Single
Side A - GOLDEN
Side B - GOLDEN
1998 Christmas single
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
History never repeats Annual single (can't remember the year received)
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
Happy when I am crying/REM Live for today single (don't know the year received)
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
LB
Side A - "For the league of crafty Fulmonologists" and "Golden"
Side B - Surf is where you find it - Gerry Lopez
Vitalogy
Divisions 1 thru 4 both sides all have random letters/numbers
I hope this Post is understood by you all. It was really cool to go through my records today. I saw the writing on the records before but really never read it because it was just numbers so I thought it was like a serial number.
It would be very cool if there are different inscriptions on others records.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the RNDM record yet, I know it says something, but I forget exactly what, I think it's on both the orange and black versions.
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the RNDM record yet, I know it says something, but I forget exactly what, I think it's on both the orange and black versions.
just pulled out Acts. Side R "RNDM is a magic band" Side N "Haus of RNDM Gong" Side D "Finally, a power trio" Side M "RNDM has a beef w/ Prince"
wonder what Ghost Riding will have inscribed...
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Saratoga Springs 2000 Toronto Ontario 2000
Albany 2003 Toronto Ontario 2003
Buffalo 2003 Toronto Ontario 2005
Toledo 2004 London Ontario 2005
Seattle 2009 Vancouver B.C. 2011
Seattle 2013
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the RNDM record yet, I know it says something, but I forget exactly what, I think it's on both the orange and black versions.
just pulled out Acts. Side R "RNDM is a magic band" Side N "Haus of RNDM Gong" Side D "Finally, a power trio" Side M "RNDM has a beef w/ Prince"
wonder what Ghost Riding will have inscribed...
Nice! Yeah I remembered the Power Trio one, thought that was cool. And I keep checking everyday for them to sell Ghost Riding in the shop!
Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?
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Look for the initials "RL" carved in the run out grooves on both sides. The sound is TOTALLY ROCKIN'!!
Surpasses even the MoFi pressing IMHO
The George Piros "GP" pressing of "The Yes Album" sounds great too.
Great thread OP
I hope one of my vinyls says: Aussie Tour November 2012
Melbourne #2 '03
Melbourne #3 '03
Melbourne #1 '06
Melbourne #3 '06
Melbourne '09
Melbourne '14
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
The Rearviewmirror LP's have mostly code with the word "Golden".
"Why go home? I am home! And I gotta tell you, it feels FUCKIN GREAT to be here. You may experience this yourself but, if you were born in Chicago, you're always from Chicago. And even if you don't live in Chicago, Chicago will always live in you."-Ed
Soon Forget Live yellow FSV....
Side A: A cracker please
Side B: Give that drummer a raise
Different Mike Richter. I believe the 8/23/09 show and poster were dedicated to him.
Besides that, I'm pretty sure MR stands for Mr. Rogers in this instance.
If you picked up the rsd DEVO Live 1981 Seattle it has the following messages:
Side 1: It's time for Devo
Side 2: Man is when man thinks
Side 3: Toil is stupid
Side 4: Devolution is real
The White Stripes single from rsd has some messages too.
In my copy, I can read something very similar to an R and somethig very similar to an L inside the space of the bends of a big S... don't know if my copy is from Robert Ludwig master but it does sound awesome....
Edit: Still don't know if the one I got was mastered by RL. But mine is an Atlantic release, don't remember the code, and was printed in the USA, so I don't know which pressing it is, and which edition, but anyway, it might as well be the one mastered by RL, and still sounds great...
Here are some of my finds... Most SST records seem to have them...
Black Flag Everything Went Black
1 - Robo is God - spacing out to the beat of a different drummer
2 - Feeling uneasy? Chavo sez here comes Dez - Jealous anyone?
3 - So maybe we're waiting for a heavy alloy savior, Ozzie?
4 - No corn in my horn - not where the bop drops, y'all
Evil clutches - let no man fall prey
Black Flag Loose Nut
1 - Kickin' and Stickin'
2 - All for me, all for me
Black Flag Slip It In
1 - Only the steaming liquid of caffeine...Stark, starker
2 - And walked out into the bright sunlight without sunglasses
Black Flag Jealous Again
A - Do the creepy crawl (bars)
B - Wash this out of your life (bars)
Black Flag Damaged
1 - Comin' at ya, the neo real gelatinous thing
2 - Sizzled the pants right off of me - Howie
Aaah What the hell - Harold
Black Flag My War
1 - Exploring the inside of empty guns
2 - Looking for the markings of rifled thoughts. Is that it then?
Black Flag Family Man
A - Looking out from a tight corner
B - Mirrors only create the illusion of less space
The Blasting Concept - Volume 2 SST
1 - "Just so many things can be stapled together..." Christine Jorgensen
2 - Tis not too late to seek a newer world - Tennyson
Minutemen
1 - Bones - the list...the list in the dream?
2 - .....And the guests came in through little funnels - dripping
Minor Threat
A - Down and out, up and down
B - Over and over, over and out
Minor Threat Out of Step
A - Why did the punk cross the road?
B - Because Ian told him to
(Ha ha - my favorite!)
Soundgarden Ultramega OK
1 - A religious man might think we're evil...
2 - A rational man might think we're religious
Smashed Gladys Social Intercourse
1 - non pro Rama non pro numerate
2 - adeptio concubitus estate modus operendum
Thanks for letting me share!
2014 Cincy, Detroit, Moline, & Milwaukee
2015 Central Park
2016 Lexington, Ottawa, Toronto 1 & 2, Boston 1 & 2, Chicago 1 & 2
2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
2018 Seattle 1 & 2, Missoula, Chicago 1
Side A: FOR THE LEAGUE OF CRAFTY FULMINOLOGISTS
Side B: SURF IS WHERE YOU FIND IT - GERRY LOPEZ
Just in case you all haven't looked for it yet...
:thumbup:
Joy Division's UK 12" single of "Love Will Tear Us Apart":
SIDE A - I'VE ONLY GOT RECORD SHOPS LEFT
SIDE B - DON'T DISILLUSION ME
And the classic Led Zeppelin III (apparently most pressings have one message or the other in the deadwax, but not both):
SIDE A - DO WHAT THOU WILT
SIDE B - SO MOTE BE IT
...Because Jimmy Page was one Satan-worshipping MFer.
This is just a re-post. I don't know how to transfer my post here other than copy and paste.
This was your thread you started originally so you get the bump.
It is incredible that your post is written and described pretty well like mine. I just spent 2 hours looking at my records and writing down on paper what I want to type.
Recently took out a few singles and for the first time I actually read the writing/etching/inscriptions on the run-out groove for each side of the record.
Noticed some sides had sayings and others had random letters and numbers.
For example on the Backspacer LP
Side A has "Gramma Marge Daughter of Pearl 1918-2009" and "www.gzvinyl" inscribed.
Side B has "GOLDEN" and "RJOKVHJ Mr. Forever..." inscribed
Curious if others have different writing on their vinyl and if so - What does it say?
Here is a list of records and what I see inscribed/etched in the run-out groove on each side.
Devil Doll
Side A- Better Things and random letters/numbers
Side B - Devil Doll and random letters/numbers
2012 Live Alpine
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
2009 Touring Mist
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
2008 Single
Side A - GOLDEN
Side B - GOLDEN
2007 Annual single
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
2005 Little Sister/Gone Single
Side A - GOLDEN
Side B - GOLDEN
1998 Christmas single
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
History never repeats Annual single (can't remember the year received)
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
Happy when I am crying/REM Live for today single (don't know the year received)
Side A - random letters/numbers
Side B - random letters/numbers
LB
Side A - "For the league of crafty Fulmonologists" and "Golden"
Side B - Surf is where you find it - Gerry Lopez
Vitalogy
Divisions 1 thru 4 both sides all have random letters/numbers
I hope this Post is understood by you all. It was really cool to go through my records today. I saw the writing on the records before but really never read it because it was just numbers so I thought it was like a serial number.
It would be very cool if there are different inscriptions on others records.
You are exactly right.
I would like to go further and ask Why has no one commented on what is written on the benny deadwax ?(just learned what deadwax is 10min ago;)
Imagine opening up the benny with a message..... :corn:
So it would be very easy for anyone that has an opened benny to post here and say if there is/isn't writings on the deadwax.
Why are no bennys' replying?
Gorge 2005
Side R
"RNDM is a magic band"
Side N
"Haus of RNDM Gong"
Side D
"Finally, a power trio"
Side M
"RNDM has a beef w/ Prince"
wonder what Ghost Riding will have inscribed...
I can guess the significance of all the initials listed under Side B of the White Backspacer, but I doubt I'm allowed to post them here. :-)