No interest in Christmas

Cosmo

Jason P wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

And there isn't a law banning the singing 'Silent Night'... if people are pissed because little Sally's 3rd grade class can't sing it... pull her out of the tax funded public school system and send her off to a Christian/Catholic school where she can sing it all she wants.

I'm OK with that logic as long as the state provide vouchers in lieu of the tax money that is sent to a public school. It's win / win.

Otherwise, as long as there is a 200 foot Christmas tree on the White House lawn, perhaps the few Scrooge's that make a huge stink about the holidays can suck it up and perhaps try spreading cheer and enjoying themselves for a change.

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A couple of things:
Why should the state pay for people's desire to send their kids to private school when they are the ones choosing to opt out of the available system?
...
A Christmas Tree is not a religious symbol... unless you are a Pagean. Those shiney orbs hung on the tree? Fertility Symbols. The tree is set up in hopes that the gods of the Earth will provide a bountiful harvest, beginning with Spring's arrival. If it were a giant Minora... okay, that's a differentt story, right?

g under p

pandora wrote:

Spirit of Christmas ... is giving

this done as much for the giver as for the one who receives

"Instead of being a time of unusual behavior, Christmas is perhaps the only time in the year when people can obey their natural impulses and express their true sentiments without feeling self-conscious and, perhaps, foolish. Christmas, in short, is about the only chance a man has to be himself." ~Francis C. Farley

What kind of person are you? This the power we have to make Christmas meaningful
amongst the materialism and negativity the OP speaks of.

Its up to each person to make Christmas real for them and their families.

I thought about this a few weeks ago about giving. Well I give ALL YEAR LONG, I don't have to wait til this time of the year to feel the urge to give. Only exception Floridas Cushmans Honeybell oranges they ONLY are inseason from Nov-Feb otherwise I'd give out those throughout the year. I'll give to the men and women at the guard gate, mail lady...she loves to leave Snoopy dog biscuits....and the men who pick up the trash..recycle.

It's meaningful to us we just go elsewhere to get whatever meaning we want and even if we stayed home it would STILL BE MEANINGFUL to us. Ex one way is we can take a horse ride around our neighborhood or just come out to wave to the decorated sleigh rides they had here last week. We each can make it meaningful in our OWN way either with decorations or absolutely nothing at all...its neither a state of negativity or a dislike of the season for me...we've been through ALL the positive one can think of...I'm changing as I evolve.

The OP might just be happy in their own ways about Christmas without judgement.

Peace

Jeanwah

pandora wrote:

Its up to each person to make Christmas real for them and their families.

Actually, it is up to each person to decide if they even choose to celebrate Christmas at all. Stick that one in your pipe and smoke it.

Jason P

Cosmo wrote:

Jason P wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

And there isn't a law banning the singing 'Silent Night'... if people are pissed because little Sally's 3rd grade class can't sing it... pull her out of the tax funded public school system and send her off to a Christian/Catholic school where she can sing it all she wants.

I'm OK with that logic as long as the state provide vouchers in lieu of the tax money that is sent to a public school. It's win / win.

Otherwise, as long as there is a 200 foot Christmas tree on the White House lawn, perhaps the few Scrooge's that make a huge stink about the holidays can suck it up and perhaps try spreading cheer and enjoying themselves for a change.

...
A couple of things:
Why should the state pay for people's desire to send their kids to private school when they are the ones choosing to opt out of the available system?
...
A Christmas Tree is not a religious symbol... unless you are a Pagean. Those shiney orbs hung on the tree? Fertility Symbols. The tree is set up in hopes that the gods of the Earth will provide a bountiful harvest, beginning with Spring's arrival. If it were a giant Minora... okay, that's a differentt story, right?

The taxpayers are paying the state and will be put in jail if they don't. The state is redistributing the taxpayer's money into schools that for the most part are failing. Why shouldn't someone have the option to get a voucher that is for the exact same amount that a public school receives?

I'll concede the Xmas tree argument.

pandora

g under p wrote:

pandora wrote:

Spirit of Christmas ... is giving

this done as much for the giver as for the one who receives

"Instead of being a time of unusual behavior, Christmas is perhaps the only time in the year when people can obey their natural impulses and express their true sentiments without feeling self-conscious and, perhaps, foolish. Christmas, in short, is about the only chance a man has to be himself." ~Francis C. Farley

What kind of person are you? This the power we have to make Christmas meaningful
amongst the materialism and negativity the OP speaks of.

Its up to each person to make Christmas real for them and their families.

I thought about this a few weeks ago about giving. Well I give ALL YEAR LONG, I don't have to wait til this time of the year to feel the urge to give. Only exception Floridas Cushmans Honeybell oranges they ONLY are inseason from Nov-Feb otherwise I'd give out those throughout the year. I'll give to the men and women at the guard gate, mail lady...she loves to leave Snoopy dog biscuits....and the men who pick up the trash..recycle.

It's meaningful to us we just go elsewhere to get whatever meaning we want and even if we stayed home it would STILL BE MEANINGFUL to us. Ex one way is we can take a horse ride around our neighborhood or just come out to wave to the decorated sleigh rides they had here last week. We each can make it meaningful in our OWN way either with decorations or absolutely nothing at all...its neither a state of negativity or a dislike of the season for me...we've been through ALL the positive one can think of...I'm changing as I evolve.

The OP might just be happy in their own ways about Christmas without judgement.

Peace

Yes exactly ...
it is up to every individual to make Christmas
meaningful to themselves and their families in their own way.

Is it judgmental to assume those buying gifts are somehow wrong?
I think it is because
one can not look in their hearts and know what giving means to them.

And yes most people give all year long.

A simple joy for me is watching the people I love enjoy a gift I pick especially for them.
I put my thinking cap on and try to find something special.

I love it all though! the lights, the tree, the music, new family memories made,
the traditions in food and gatherings.
It is a big part of my life has been my entire life ... 55 Christmases this year!

I celebrate the birth of Jesus
and I rejoice in the celebration of what his birthday means to others.

I think the main thing is it is a happy time of the year ...
and the quickest way to happiness is to do something nice for someone,
however small.

It is wonderful to end the year on a positive loving note and hope that carries
through to the New Year.

pandora

stuckinline wrote:

I haven't put up a tree for five years.

do you want to maybe ? perhaps this is the year?

A beautiful fresh tree trimming is threaded popcorn and cranberries.

g under p

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

pandora wrote:

Spirit of Christmas ... is giving

this done as much for the giver as for the one who receives

"Instead of being a time of unusual behavior, Christmas is perhaps the only time in the year when people can obey their natural impulses and express their true sentiments without feeling self-conscious and, perhaps, foolish. Christmas, in short, is about the only chance a man has to be himself." ~Francis C. Farley

What kind of person are you? This the power we have to make Christmas meaningful
amongst the materialism and negativity the OP speaks of.

Its up to each person to make Christmas real for them and their families.

I thought about this a few weeks ago about giving. Well I give ALL YEAR LONG, I don't have to wait til this time of the year to feel the urge to give. Only exception Floridas Cushmans Honeybell oranges they ONLY are inseason from Nov-Feb otherwise I'd give out those throughout the year. I'll give to the men and women at the guard gate, mail lady...she loves to leave Snoopy dog biscuits....and the men who pick up the trash..recycle.

It's meaningful to us we just go elsewhere to get whatever meaning we want and even if we stayed home it would STILL BE MEANINGFUL to us. Ex one way is we can take a horse ride around our neighborhood or just come out to wave to the decorated sleigh rides they had here last week. We each can make it meaningful in our OWN way either with decorations or absolutely nothing at all...its neither a state of negativity or a dislike of the season for me...we've been through ALL the positive one can think of...I'm changing as I evolve.

The OP might just be happy in their own ways about Christmas without judgement.

Peace

Yes exactly ...
it is up to every individual to make Christmas
meaningful to themselves and their families in their own way.

Is it judgmental to assume those buying gifts are somehow wrong?
I think it is because
one can not look in their hearts and know what giving means to them.

And yes most people give all year long.

A simple joy for me is watching the people I love enjoy a gift I pick especially for them.
I put my thinking cap on and try to find something special.

I love it all though! the lights, the tree, the music, new family memories made,
the traditions in food and gatherings.
It is a big part of my life has been my entire life ... 55 Christmases this year!

I celebrate the birth of Jesus
and I rejoice in the celebration of what his birthday means to others.

I think the main thing is it is a happy time of the year ...
and the quickest way to happiness is to do something nice for someone,
however small.

It is wonderful to end the year on a positive loving note and hope that carries
through to the New Year.

Good for you I gather that's the kind of person you are. Im what I am a good person and I don't care what others think of what's meaningful or not so meaningful to me. In fact I want to one year NOT GIVE any gifts at all instead give myself to others in MORE NEED of help during the holidays.....volunteer my time. That to me would be more meaningful than giving or getting any gifts, tree, lights or decor during these holidays.

I'm happy it's 78 degrees outside, sunny and tonight during my boy's football practice it'll drop down to the 50's, windy down by Boynton Beach and I won't think much about it being Christmas....just staying warm.


Peace

pandora

g under p wrote:

Good for you I gather that's the kind of person you are. Im what I am a good person and I don't care what others think of what's meaningful or not so meaningful to me. In fact I want to one year NOT GIVE any gifts at all instead give myself to others in MORE NEED of help during the holidays.....volunteer my time. That to me would be more meaningful than giving or getting any gifts, tree, lights or decor during these holidays.

I'm happy it's 78 degrees outside, sunny and tonight during my boy's football practice it'll drop down to the 50's, windy down by Boynton Beach and I won't think much about it being Christmas....just staying warm.


Peace

I am a volunteer also ... we have more in common than you know

we are also both whimpy ...
'the up northers' they are saying "drop down to the 50's ... keep warm " :?
but I know just what you mean!

norm

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now that gets me into the christmas spirit!

gimmesometruth27

catefrances wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i have no interest in christmas this year.

i don't think i am even putting up my tree this year. nobody but me, my dog, and my band would see it, and i would have to take it down again in just over 4 weeks if i put it up today.

dont make me come over there and stick decorations on your door again. :P

haha..i still have those and am using them again next year..



maybe this winter when it is below freezing for a few weeks i can decorate the outside of my house with those han solo ice cubes....i wonder if i can stuff snow in there and make snow hans??? i am totally gonna try it

catefrances

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i have no interest in christmas this year.

i don't think i am even putting up my tree this year. nobody but me, my dog, and my band would see it, and i would have to take it down again in just over 4 weeks if i put it up today.

dont make me come over there and stick decorations on your door again. :P

haha..i still have those and am using them again next year..



maybe this winter when it is below freezing for a few weeks i can decorate the outside of my house with those han solo ice cubes....i wonder if i can stuff snow in there and make snow hans??? i am totally gonna try it

maybe add some cordial and make flavoured han solo snowcones... or snowblocks as theyd be.


i like raspberry btw.

gimmesometruth27

catefrances wrote:

maybe add some cordial and make flavoured han solo snowcones... or snowblocks as theyd be.


i like raspberry btw.

that is a great idea...i never would have thought of that.. only problem is they are very small. only about 1.5 inches by 3/4 inch, and there is one big one that is about 3"x1.5"

catefrances

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

maybe add some cordial and make flavoured han solo snowcones... or snowblocks as theyd be.


i like raspberry btw.

that is a great idea...i never would have thought of that.. only problem is they are very small. only about 1.5 inches by 3/4 inch, and there is one big one that is about 3"x1.5"

so then size does matter sometimes.




i think a raspberry han snowblock would go well in a glass of cola. you could sit there and watch him dissolve... just like when we watch him being lowered into the freezing chamber in empire.

gimmesometruth27

catefrances wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

maybe add some cordial and make flavoured han solo snowcones... or snowblocks as theyd be.


i like raspberry btw.

that is a great idea...i never would have thought of that.. only problem is they are very small. only about 1.5 inches by 3/4 inch, and there is one big one that is about 3"x1.5"

so then size does matter sometimes.




i think a raspberry han snowblock would go well in a glass of cola. you could sit there and watch him dissolve... just like when we watch him being lowered into the freezing chamber in empire.

i dunno, i think dipping ice into liquid to watch it dissolve is like watching frozen austin powers getting dipped into the warm liquid goo phase to defrost him...

i think i might try that...if i can get my hands on some flavored booze for the christmas season.

catefrances

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

so then size does matter sometimes.




i think a raspberry han snowblock would go well in a glass of cola. you could sit there and watch him dissolve... just like when we watch him being lowered into the freezing chamber in empire.

i dunno, i think dipping ice into liquid to watch it dissolve is like watching frozen austin powers getting dipped into the warm liquid goo phase to defrost him...

i think i might try that...if i can get my hands on some flavored booze for the christmas season.

no... han would be way more tasty. and ewwww who is planning on ingesting unfrozen austin powers anyway.. not me baby.

gimmesometruth27

catefrances wrote:

no... han would be way more tasty. and ewwww who is planning on ingesting unfrozen austin powers anyway.. not me baby.

neither one are particularly appealing to me hhaha..i think i will just use it for ice and to make snow hans.

catefrances

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

no... han would be way more tasty. and ewwww who is planning on ingesting unfrozen austin powers anyway.. not me baby.

neither one are particularly appealing to me hhaha..i think i will just use it for ice and to make snow hans.

snow hans.. you gotta give george a call and market that shit. geeks worldwide would go berserk for a tasty snow hans... even some of the fanboys im sure.

gimmesometruth27

catefrances wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

no... han would be way more tasty. and ewwww who is planning on ingesting unfrozen austin powers anyway.. not me baby.

neither one are particularly appealing to me hhaha..i think i will just use it for ice and to make snow hans.

snow hans.. you gotta give george a call and market that shit. geeks worldwide would go berserk for a tasty snow hans... even some of the fanboys im sure.

well it was your idea. even better, they can come out with an entire hoth set to go with snow han. let george know about it and i am sure he will be out in stores and ready to capitalize on the commercialization of christmas...

there, back on topic

JaneNY

pandora wrote:

A tree, I have found kindles much, most especially a childlike joy from deep within.
A wonderment that has long since left.

I think your dog will enjoy that vibe in the room and the cuddling of Christmastime.
I think you might too ... I hope so.

I will have to respectfully disagree. For the last 12 years I've had to, at my business location, put up a tree because the customers expect it. I inherited a tree from the previous business owner, and every year I dislike having to put it up because I don't feel anything inside about it. I usually play Pearl Jam or NIN when I do it, and can't get it done fast enough. This year a customer/helper brought in a little live pine and I was so grateful that I didn't have to put together that darn artificial tree.

The dog won't care about the tree (unless he wants to do what dogs do on trees). All he will care about is being with his owner and that is independent of any particular day of the year.

pandora

JaneNY wrote:

pandora wrote:

A tree, I have found kindles much, most especially a childlike joy from deep within.
A wonderment that has long since left.

I think your dog will enjoy that vibe in the room and the cuddling of Christmastime.
I think you might too ... I hope so.

I will have to respectfully disagree. For the last 12 years I've had to, at my business location, put up a tree because the customers expect it. I inherited a tree from the previous business owner, and every year I dislike having to put it up because I don't feel anything inside about it. I usually play Pearl Jam or NIN when I do it, and can't get it done fast enough. This year a customer/helper brought in a little live pine and I was so grateful that I didn't have to put together that darn artificial tree.

The dog won't care about the tree (unless he wants to do what dogs do on trees). All he will care about is being with his owner and that is independent of any particular day of the year.

um... I meant the doggie would enjoy the cuddling :?

We always have a fresh tree, the smell so lovely like orange.

Perhaps a young person who enjoys the decorating could put the tree up.
It might be fun for them and could earn a small bit for a gift for another.

You are free from a chore and someone else has a joy!