The older I get the less I like Christmas time. I don't get depressed or anything, I just see it as a diversion and an obligation to spend money. It's what it's become that bothers me; the need to go shopping, the obligation to giving lots of gifts which is usually a bunch of stuff that no one needs. The media shoving the commercialism down our throats. The radio stations playing Christmas music before Thanksgiving. I've resorted to calling the holiday "Giftmas" because that's how society has exploited the holiday.
If we could just get back to the basics of being kind, respectful and peaceful; what the holiday is supposed to mean, I may be more in the spirit.
I totally agree... my family is very tiny, don't need a special occasion to gather ourselves up, we see each other on a daily basis, for better or worst, most worst lately, all raised as catholic, none of us gives a damn about religion, christ and the such, it's only about the presents, which I hate, and in my country, xmas is during the summer, I hate the hot weather, and I hate the xmas food, basically, because is a tradition taken from the people of the northern hemisphere, so all the food contains many calories and is prepared and aimed for cold weather... I ain't no grinch but give me a break...
Oh man how have I never even considered that? Christmas in the southern hemisphere...it's freakin' summer, man! Just don't feel right.
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Another thing that's pushed down our throats is that the Christmas tree is put up in public schools around the country and only in the last what, 15 years, have they mentioned and discussed Hanukkah. A pushed upon ideal that we must celebrate late December with gifts, a tree, and an old bearded man dressed in red. And get this, some institutions are talking of taking out the part in "Twas the Night Before Christmas" that mentions that Santa smokes a pipe. Because smoking is bad!
Why is it that if I don't want to celebrate the holiday, that society forces me to, regardless?
I also teach my daughter to give during the whole year to those less fortunate. People need to know that those in need are in need the rest of the year too.
I'm not sure how anyone can really push christmas down your throat. Just because you don't like it, doesn;t mean everyone has to stop doing what they are doing.
As for your last statement, absolutely. I'm sure you are a terrific parent. Christmas is just a time to help highlight those in needs and begin the giving if you haven;t already done so.
Positivity is the best parenting skill, one often forgotten. The bright side shines
on everyone, it can be addicting, it can be healing, it can be bonding.
I say just be glad people are giving. Whether that is their Christmas way or everyday.
It really is all good. just let it be good.
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it must be said like in the Apocalypse Now. Too funny.
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Oh man how have I never even considered that? Christmas in the southern hemisphere...it's freakin' summer, man! Just don't feel right.
right? you are falling short! the MF sell plastic xmas tress with fake plastic snow on them...
That's awful! Yeah, there is no way I'd do Christmas if it was the middle of summer.... Does Santa wear shorts and a t-shirt or what?
of course santa wears winter clothes in summer in the southern hemisphere... and is just as old and fat... never thought how reindeers cope with the weather until now... where is a WWF activist when needed?
... I am not in the business of being liked anymore ...
Perhaps everyone would feel less pissed off or irritated if you looked at it all as stuff that makes other people besides you happy or excited, particularly children.
This thread is way more miserable than anything else Christmas related that you're all complaining about.
love the word miserable
and thank you for making me laugh and for the truth
It does seem freaky to think Christmas in summer but I guess it's all what one is used to,
grow up with too.
There really is nothing like Christmas lights that burn a hole in the snow though.
If one has never seen that one needs to. Colorful cups of snow I miss that here.
So pretty. It's a dandy pretty time of year whatever the weather.
i've gotten a christmas card from Australia. the first ever i've had a christmas card of a beach santa with a kangaroo & koala bear & santa running to the water.
ya don't need reindeer. ya don't need a fucking snow sled. in this one country santa sells his frickin butt on the corner. i've saw the card from when i was a young teenager and a naval officer brought it home.
Well no... husband and I going to Key West for a week and a half. Coming back in January.
But there will be no celebrations of any kind. Not interested.
The idea of Christmas is so fucking annoying now. Three months of Christmas music and Salvation Army vultures clanging their bells everywhere I go and tacky decorations all over the place and today I went to the fucking liquor store and there was a fucking Doo-Wop Quartet singing Christmas songs by the check out.
I really wish we could just make Christmas go away for a few years and we might actually enjoy it when it comes back.
of course santa wears winter clothes in summer in the southern hemisphere... and is just as old and fat... never thought how reindeers cope with the weather until now... where is a WWF activist when needed?
no... here in oz santa wears boardies and a singlet(wifebeater). he does not have reindeer but 6 white boomers.(kangaroos)
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Well no... husband and I going to Key West for a week and a half. Coming back in January.
But there will be no celebrations of any kind. Not interested.
The idea of Christmas is so fucking annoying now. Three months of Christmas music and Salvation Army vultures clanging their bells everywhere I go and tacky decorations all over the place and today I went to the fucking liquor store and there was a fucking Doo-Wop Quartet singing Christmas songs by the check out.
I really wish we could just make Christmas go away for a few years and we might actually enjoy it when it comes back.
I would like it if there was a doo wop quartet at the liquor store all year long.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Man this yr just doesn't feel good at all i'll have to put on a good face for the family on Xmas day ...
That's kind of you to bring them happiness on Christmas Day.
I hope that brings you some too.
While it is important to be a "trooper" at Christmas so happiness can be shared by all, don't think down on the thought of not feelin it this year. I'm with ya 100%. I saw a guy wearing a shirt today - it said "Merry Friggin Christmas". I couldn't agree more. Tough year, and coming off such a pleasurable holiday like Thanksgiving, Christmas feels like it's evil henchman villian arch-nemesis. I wish this could just be "Thanksgiving 2". Screw the gifts and the stress of what to buy, and who gets what and dealing with lunatics in the mall and stores. I have 3 kids, the littlest is so excited --> but it has ZIPPO to do with Christ, baby Jesus, a manger or the 3 wisemen. It has zippo to do with anything related to gratitude, health or loved ones. Candy , stocking stuff and a Wreck It Ralph book. Bless his soul, but man...what a drag.
I hope your holiday is a great one. I hope you have peace and receive some good will as well as perform some. Let's hope 2013 is better for everyone.
Happy Festivus!
Seeing the children at Christmastime, dressed up for Santa photos.
All smiles and excitement. The very best part of the holidays... believing.
Believing? Believing in what? Santa?
Please try and make some sense. This is the whole point of words and communication - to make the other person understand you. Posting cryptic nonsense in the style of Yoda does not fit this bill.
I hope your holiday is a great one. I hope you have peace and receive some good will as well as perform some. Let's hope 2013 is better for everyone.
Happy Festivus!
My thoughts as well.
(we caught the Festivus episode here just a bit earlier this evening )
Seeing the children at Christmastime, dressed up for Santa photos.
All smiles and excitement. The very best part of the holidays... believing.
Yeah, I love how we lie to kids about Santa Claus and Jesus being born on the 24th. Makes them stupid enough to believe that lowering taxes will lower the deficit.
I would like it if there was a doo wop quartet at the liquor store all year long.
It would make me drink either more or less.
Christmas sucks. It's been ruined by shameless commercialism and has no meaning anymore. Just proves that the only REAL God of the Republicans in money.
It's why I won't buy any gifts this year and instead spent it on a vacation to a resort in Key West where I'll hang out by a pool with a book. (ok, the pool will be filled with naked men, but that's not the point).
Seeing the children at Christmastime, dressed up for Santa photos.
All smiles and excitement. The very best part of the holidays... believing.
Yeah, I love how we lie to kids about Santa Claus and Jesus being born on the 24th. Makes them stupid enough to believe that lowering taxes will lower the deficit.
You are funny, in the good way.
I don't have kids, but if I did, i would not tell them that Santa is real. I'd tell them the truth, and that it is fun to make believe that Santa is real - that it is fun to pretend that he's real. For kids, using your imagination is fun and can create wonder. No need to lie for kids to experience the kiddy Christmas joy. I don't think so, anyway. I knew Santa wasn't real at 3, yet the childish Christmas joy remained. I'm glad my folks didn't try and convince me of something that was clearly not true just to get me excited.
Then there is the Jesus aspect... we weren't religious. I think it's cool that there is a rigious Christmas, and a non-religious Christmas. Everyone wins.
I personally like a holiday that involves gift-giving because it's fun and I like it when people enjoy the gift I give them. But I don't like that people feel obligated to do it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Seeing the children at Christmastime, dressed up for Santa photos.
All smiles and excitement. The very best part of the holidays... believing.
Believing? Believing in what? Santa?
Please try and make some sense. This is the whole point of words and communication - to make the other person understand you. Posting cryptic nonsense in the style of Yoda does not fit this bill.
Santa photos are cliche' and lame. Even my daughter thinks so.
.....i would not tell them that Santa is real. I'd tell them the truth, and that it is fun to make believe that Santa is real - that it is fun to pretend that he's real.
Seeing the children at Christmastime, dressed up for Santa photos.
All smiles and excitement. The very best part of the holidays... believing.
Believing? Believing in what? Santa?
Please try and make some sense. This is the whole point of words and communication - to make the other person understand you. Posting cryptic nonsense in the style of Yoda does not fit this bill.
There is plenty of time for truth... let kids be kids and have some fun!
And as adults we should let ourselves have some fun ... for goodness sakes!
I'm all for fun, but at a time and place of my own choosing; not just on a day that certain segments of society deem as days that you must have fun regardless of your true feelings/beliefs. That being said, on Christmas I expect I will have fun watching movies at home, studying, and having the opportunity to sleep late and not be on a schedule, maybe get started on my taxes (and yes I find it 'fun' to have it out of the way and not have to worry about it later).
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The Horror!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
on everyone, it can be addicting, it can be healing, it can be bonding.
I say just be glad people are giving. Whether that is their Christmas way or everyday.
It really is all good.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Have a Wonderful Holiday!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
right? you are falling short! they sell plastic xmas trees with fake plastic snow on them...
of course santa wears winter clothes in summer in the southern hemisphere... and is just as old and fat... never thought how reindeers cope with the weather until now... where is a WWF activist when needed?
and thank you for making me laugh and for the truth
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
grow up with too.
There really is nothing like Christmas lights that burn a hole in the snow though.
If one has never seen that one needs to. Colorful cups of snow
So pretty. It's a dandy pretty time of year whatever the weather.
ya don't need reindeer. ya don't need a fucking snow sled. in this one country santa sells his frickin butt on the corner. i've saw the card from when i was a young teenager and a naval officer brought it home.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Well no... husband and I going to Key West for a week and a half. Coming back in January.
But there will be no celebrations of any kind. Not interested.
The idea of Christmas is so fucking annoying now. Three months of Christmas music and Salvation Army vultures clanging their bells everywhere I go and tacky decorations all over the place and today I went to the fucking liquor store and there was a fucking Doo-Wop Quartet singing Christmas songs by the check out.
I really wish we could just make Christmas go away for a few years and we might actually enjoy it when it comes back.
All smiles and excitement. The very best part of the holidays... believing.
no... here in oz santa wears boardies and a singlet(wifebeater). he does not have reindeer but 6 white boomers.(kangaroos)
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSW7wzVc ... &index=116
I hope that brings you some too.
I hope your holiday is a great one. I hope you have peace and receive some good will as well as perform some. Let's hope 2013 is better for everyone.
Happy Festivus!
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Believing? Believing in what? Santa?
Please try and make some sense. This is the whole point of words and communication - to make the other person understand you. Posting cryptic nonsense in the style of Yoda does not fit this bill.
(we caught the Festivus episode here just a bit earlier this evening
Yeah, I love how we lie to kids about Santa Claus and Jesus being born on the 24th. Makes them stupid enough to believe that lowering taxes will lower the deficit.
It would make me drink either more or less.
Christmas sucks. It's been ruined by shameless commercialism and has no meaning anymore. Just proves that the only REAL God of the Republicans in money.
It's why I won't buy any gifts this year and instead spent it on a vacation to a resort in Key West where I'll hang out by a pool with a book. (ok, the pool will be filled with naked men, but that's not the point).
I don't have kids, but if I did, i would not tell them that Santa is real. I'd tell them the truth, and that it is fun to make believe that Santa is real - that it is fun to pretend that he's real. For kids, using your imagination is fun and can create wonder. No need to lie for kids to experience the kiddy Christmas joy. I don't think so, anyway. I knew Santa wasn't real at 3, yet the childish Christmas joy remained. I'm glad my folks didn't try and convince me of something that was clearly not true just to get me excited.
Then there is the Jesus aspect... we weren't religious. I think it's cool that there is a rigious Christmas, and a non-religious Christmas. Everyone wins.
I personally like a holiday that involves gift-giving because it's fun and I like it when people enjoy the gift I give them. But I don't like that people feel obligated to do it.
Santa photos are cliche' and lame. Even my daughter thinks so.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?!?!!
What are you guys on about? He is real, he is...
And as adults we should let ourselves have some fun ... for goodness sakes!
I'm all for fun, but at a time and place of my own choosing; not just on a day that certain segments of society deem as days that you must have fun regardless of your true feelings/beliefs. That being said, on Christmas I expect I will have fun watching movies at home, studying, and having the opportunity to sleep late and not be on a schedule, maybe get started on my taxes (and yes I find it 'fun' to have it out of the way and not have to worry about it later).
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008