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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    :confused: I'm just wondering if some people were at the same show as me?
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
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  • Riot_Rain
    Riot_Rain Posts: 348
    :confused: I'm just wondering if some people were at the same show as me?

    I know what you mean :)

    I think we all come with our own expectations though, so the way we then experience what actually happens can be very different.

    I keep wondering if the band were nervous. When Ed first came on stage, I got this feeling that he was nervous. (He also shook his hands, does he always do that? Never noticed it before.) Maybe cos they realised hte floor was 10C only, there were many long-time fans around and they would be playing a slightly different setlist? But maybe I'm just projecting my own emotions onto other people now ;)
    EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I thought it was a great show and like I'v said before, setlist was perfect for me, almost tailor-made ;)
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  • Hinny
    Hinny Posts: 1,610
    :confused: I'm just wondering if some people were at the same show as me?
    Probably went to London in Canada instead.
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  • xnothingmanx
    xnothingmanx Suffolk UK Posts: 195
    :confused: I'm just wondering if some people were at the same show as me?

    I totally agree. The best comment Ive read is the guy who reckoned Ed looked really unhappy and pissed off all night (just because he asked a guitar tech to turn his acoustic guitar down in his earphones) . This is the same Ed who was jumping up and down like a maniac most of the time and running to the seated fans at the side more than once with a big fucking grin on his face? And actually saying more than once what fun they were having?

    Seriously, some of you must have been to a different gig.
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  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    gregmac666 wrote:
    Well I gotta say, with a heavy heart, that I was somewhat under-whelmed by the gig. I am surprised to be typing this, but I do feel that the show lacked energy throughout - the fact that the band pretty-much ignored the first four albums didn't help.

    Sorry you didn't get the same buzz that the rest of us did.

    PJ have made many low tempo songs over the years so I don't know why you assume they should come on stage and blast us through the back walls. IMHO some of the best moments have been the start of Gorge 05, Boston3 03 and Santa Barbara 06. But that's just my view.

    I'm glad it wasn't all out rockin' as i would be deaf by now.
  • Housing Jim
    Housing Jim Posts: 644
    gregmac666 wrote:
    Well I gotta say, with a heavy heart, that I was somewhat under-whelmed by the gig. I am surprised to be typing this, but I do feel that the show lacked energy throughout - the fact that the band pretty-much ignored the first four albums didn't help.

    I thought it was really nice that at least one song from each of their 8 albums was played. It's not uncommon to hear nothing from at least one or more of the records.

    I think given what Ed said before Crazy Mary he'd obviously taken into account what had been played at previous London shows, no matter how long ago they may have been....perhaps that was why Riot Act and the latest record were very well represented.
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  • cropdustress
    cropdustress Posts: 4,339
    I thought it was really nice that at least one song from each of their 8 albums was played. It's not uncommon to hear nothing from at least one or more of the records.

    I think given what Ed said before Crazy Mary he'd obviously taken into account what had been played at previous London shows, no matter how long ago they may have been....perhaps that was why Riot Act and the latest record were very well represented.
    I fucking want that boot so I can remember everything.
    I totally missed the solo of Crazy Mary cause Ed and I had a little encounter and he was busy trying to put the stuffed animal down his pants :eek: :D
    What did he say? I seriously need that boot.
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  • Housing Jim
    Housing Jim Posts: 644
    I fucking want that boot so I can remember everything.
    I totally missed the solo of Crazy Mary cause Ed and I had a little encounter and he was busy trying to put the stuffed animal down his pants :eek: :D
    What did he say? I seriously need that boot.

    I seem to have missed all this stuffed animal action....I was actually watching Stone strumming away for most of the song.

    I can't exactly remember how it led up to it whether he was introducing Boom or not and saying something about it being the first time he'd played that building with them and then he said that they were going to play a song for the first time, or at least the first time at Wembley and introduced Crazy Mary
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  • cropdustress
    cropdustress Posts: 4,339
    I seem to have missed all this stuffed animal action....I was actually watching Stone strumming away for most of the song.

    I can't exactly remember how it led up to it whether he was introducing Boom or not and saying something about it being the first time he'd played that building with them and then he said that they were going to play a song for the first time, or at least the first time at Wembley and introduced Crazy Mary
    Oh yeah, yeah, think i remeber now.Stuffed animal was on my side, Mikes side, when Ed came and had a smoke. i caught his attention, threw it at him and as he grabbed it, tried to put it down his pants. :eek: too funny. he didnt do it, but he read CROATIA LOVES YOU I wrote on it and he looked at me saying OH CROATIA with his hand in a fist and tapped his heart :o Thats how it happened. :)
    I had no idea what was going on on the other side of the stage...haha
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    gregmac666 wrote:
    - the fact that the band pretty-much ignored the first four albums didn't help.

    they've just had a new album in the past year... and they've played those songs for over 10years.. and london hasn't had a Riot Act tour show...

    so increase our chances of hearing a broader selection of tracks from one of our favorite bands.


    seriously??? it couldnt have got any broader.. every album was represented :confused: as were different era's of their career that were non-album times.. Long Road, I got Shit, SOLAT, RITFW, Crazy Mary.


    if people dont know anything after the first 4 albums thats their fault, but I personally loved it that there was no Even Flow, Elderly Woman, Black, or Daughter... they're the Ford Mondeo's of their catalogue... we got the Maseratis :)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    Oh yeah, yeah, think i remeber now.Stuffed animal was on my side, Mikes side, when Ed came and had a smoke. i caught his attention, threw it at him and as he grabbed it, tried to put it down his pants. :eek: too funny. he didnt do it, but he read CROATIA LOVES YOU I wrote on it and he looked at me saying OH CROATIA with his hand in a fist and tapped his heart :o Thats how it happened. :)
    I had no idea what was going on on the other side of the stage...haha

    i was watching mike through the legs of booms organ, all i could see was the finger work as mike was hiding!
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  • Hey,

    What a brilliant gig!. I just want to say thanks a million to the people who sold me 2 tickets. I was walking around in the rain with a '2 tickets wanted' sign on the day of the concert (wearing my Gustav Klimt skirt).My friend and I tried so hard to get them after they sold out. Had come over from Ireland. I'm new to these forums, so hello :)
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    Hello spidey.... happy you got tickets! :D
  • nuffingman
    nuffingman Posts: 3,014
    i was watching mike through the legs of booms organ, all i could see was the finger work as mike was hiding!
    DISGUSTING!!!! :eek:
  • danleri
    danleri Posts: 497
    dunkman wrote:
    if people dont know anything after the first 4 albums thats their fault, but I personally loved it that there was no Even Flow, Elderly Woman, Black, or Daughter... they're the Ford Mondeo's of their catalogue... we got the Maseratis :)

    That's a very nice metaphore! :p
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    i was watching mike through the legs of booms organ, all i could see was the finger work as mike was hiding!
    :eek: shocking! Eyeing fingerwork is my speciality!! ;) (not to mention organs!) But Jeff's... not Mike's.
  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    padsno wrote:
    However, not the most memorable. Sorry to all the cool guys & gals that were there, but I thought the crowd sucked. No atmosphere before the show started; no singing, clapping, chanting, etc. Every other PJ show I've been to has been a huge love-in, a great-overall-happy experience. .

    I thought the ones at the front were really cool but i was stood towards the front of the middle area and i had acres of space around me. I was about 7 or so metres from the pit and i could easily have navigated my way there without bothering anyone. It was really strange i have never been to a gig, stand that close to the front and have plenty of space around me. It was quite a laid back crowd except the crazy lot at the front. I think maybe the shit sound might had something to do with it tho, I don't think it was as bad at the front then it was in the back/middle. Still a great show tho and they should play more UK shows next time.
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  • vedder_soup
    vedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    redrock wrote:
    :eek: shocking! Eyeing fingerwork is my speciality!! ;) (not to mention organs!) But Jeff's... not Mike's.

    may i re-phrase...
    i was watching mikes fingerwork on the fret board and strings, through the legs of booms b3 organ..
    Clear :confused:
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    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

    I wave to all my Friends... Yeah!
  • gregmac666
    gregmac666 Posts: 123
    dunkman wrote:
    they've just had a new album in the past year... and they've played those songs for over 10years.. and london hasn't had a Riot Act tour show...

    I agree, and as I said, I know that bands can get bored playing those songs live time & time again, but there were people there that had never seen them.

    Don't by any means take my post as a rejection of the current albums & later catalogue. I did not say & was not saying that those song are bad songs. There are many songs that I love on the last 4 albums, and they played many. I just felt that too many of those songs meant that the night never really kicked into gear for me, or at least not often enough.
    seriously??? it couldnt have got any broader.. every album was represented :confused:

    I didn't say that the early albums were completely ignored, just that they were hardly touched compared to others. I think an equal showing from all the main disc isn't too much to ask, especially when PJ never toured on some of their other albums in the UK, not just Riot Act.
    ...as were different era's of their career that were non-album times.. Long Road, I got Shit, SOLAT, RITFW, Crazy Mary.

    Yup, and I pointed out the fact that I enjoyed hearing those songs.
    ...if people dont know anything after the first 4 albums thats their fault, but I personally loved it that there was no Even Flow, Elderly Woman, Black, or Daughter... they're the Ford Mondeo's of their catalogue... we got the Maseratis :)

    Like I said, I didn't necessarily want a 'greatest hits' set - we pretty much got that at Reading, and to a certain extent at the Astoria, with many of the usual tracks being played. A little more recognition of those earlier records that still bring me alot of pleasure is what I would have liked, which also generally seem to be the records with a more rockin' edge.

    I do always enjoy seeing PJ play, and I would go again knowing that they would play a different set from the last & the last before that, etc... They are that kinda band. Just on this one occasion they didn't really do it for me, or at least as much as they have done in the past.

    Perhaps I have been lucky to witness particularly good shows in the years gone by, and I feel they will be hard to surpass (for me personally at least), but with the Astoria & Reading being superb shows, I know they are still capable of true greatness. I just do not feel that Wembley hit those heights for me. And believe me, I wanted them to. I wanted that gig to be jaw-dropping because they always have been. As it was, I'd give it 3/5.

    This is of course my own opinion of the concert, and I KNOW that 99.9% would disagree with that opinion. I just wanted to put it out there to see what the reaction would be.
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    well I suppose some people will always want to hear the hits... but I guess that's not what PJ's fan base is about. They've been quite 'underground' for a while so they're not really a 'hits' kinda band. And with it being a fan club floor I suppose it was always going to be less hits based than other shows... may not be to everyones liking but that's it.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you